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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 00:19:18 (permalink)
Mine failed to install the first couple of times I tried.
Put finally got all 3 pieces installed.
 
Some layout differences
- Library 'bars' are now thinner (at least I seem to remember them having a little more height per bar)
- Top top control bar reorganized.  For example QuickLoad icon is gone.
Seems to be working OK, loaded fine in one of my old projects.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 02:56:51 (permalink)
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- Top top control bar reorganized.  For example QuickLoad icon is gone.

My most clicked item, how do you call up QuickLoad now?

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 04:44:41 (permalink)
This update seems to be for people with 13" laptops - because the updated GUI was great on mine! On the desktop ot was ok to me. Different but nothing special. Things loads a bit faster, which is always great.
 
Installed perfectly in OSX BTW

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 09:02:52 (permalink)
John  Thank You! for the link. I downloaded the 5.6 update and re-installed it from that and now everything works, my vst's are back. I also downloaded a previous version to keep just in case.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 09:06:00 (permalink)
QuickLoad is now available from a menu at the top. It is also my most used feature.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 09:08:32 (permalink)
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- Top top control bar reorganized.  For example QuickLoad icon is gone.

My most clicked item, how do you call up QuickLoad now?



 Two ways in Kontakt 5.6 to call up QuickLoad

post edited by TheSteven - 2016/09/14 09:30:35

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 09:16:09 (permalink)
So, 5.6 is ok to install/update?

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 10:16:27 (permalink)
NI Service Center has been telling me I have a pending update to the Kontakt 4 factory library for the last two years. The message persists even though I've installed the update at least 4 times on two different computers. I wonder how it determines whether or not the update has been installed, given that these are just wave files with no version numbers.


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 10:22:27 (permalink)
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NI Service Center has been telling me I have a pending update to the Kontakt 4 factory library for the last two years. The message persists even though I've installed the update at least 4 times on two different computers. I wonder how it determines whether or not the update has been installed, given that these are just wave files with no version numbers.




I've had the same issues with Service Center for years. I have to be careful when using it as there are several OLD updates available that never left after DL. I still don't have the confidence to try this DL New System yet...

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 10:23:29 (permalink)
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NI Service Center has been telling me I have a pending update to the Kontakt 4 factory library for the last two years. The message persists even though I've installed the update at least 4 times on two different computers. I wonder how it determines whether or not the update has been installed, given that these are just wave files with no version numbers.



I had the same issue with Service Center with EWQL Silver.  It kept telling me that the update
to 1.08 was available, even though I had installed it.  I even reinstalled it several times to 
see if would just go away...no luck...

Now it doesn't even show up in Native Access...

Amazingly, as old as it is, it STILL works just fine...


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 10:29:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/09/14 13:11:53
Anybody else annoyed that the virtual keyboard is no longer colored to indicate keyswitches? Now you just have tiny colored boxes at the top. What on earth could be the advantage of this change?


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 10:49:16 (permalink)
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Anybody else annoyed that the virtual keyboard is no longer colored to indicate keyswitches? Now you just have tiny colored boxes at the top. What on earth could be the advantage of this change?



To match their Keyboards...


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 11:08:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/09/14 13:11:50
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Anybody else annoyed that the virtual keyboard is no longer colored to indicate keyswitches? Now you just have tiny colored boxes at the top. What on earth could be the advantage of this change?


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 11:30:26 (permalink)
Just realized that NOW, with 5.6, my NI Kompakt Silver SO 
no longer loads.  I can still use Kompakt, but it no longer
works in Kontakt.  Another tick in the "what's not to like" list


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 18:19:28 (permalink)
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Anybody else annoyed that the virtual keyboard is no longer colored to indicate keyswitches? Now you just have tiny colored boxes at the top. What on earth could be the advantage of this change?



Yeah, this is a crappy change. :/ My guess is they'll get enough complaints to revert...
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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 20:53:17 (permalink)
If you have that Komplete Control software run it first.  Live crashed on the 5.6 because I didn't have Control scan it first.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/14 22:35:50 (permalink)
I think I'll leave 5.6 alone for a while. Have my hands full with other software right now and don't need any more problems.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 09:13:02 (permalink)
This update also adds software analytics. It seems that NI is installing it on all their programs as they update them. As a K9 user there's not too many programs to deal with. Maybe those of you with newer versions have more.
 
I'm surprized that there hasn't been more chatter about the analytics given the noise that was made when Cakewalk introduced them.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 09:39:46 (permalink)
I'm REALLY getting tired of this forum software taking me to MY 
FIRST POST after the OP, instead of to the LAST POST as it's supposed
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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 10:17:12 (permalink)
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Anybody else annoyed that the virtual keyboard is no longer colored to indicate keyswitches? Now you just have tiny colored boxes at the top. What on earth could be the advantage of this change?


A visual cue you cant see doesn't help. To make it less visible? I don't get it. 

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 10:59:43 (permalink)
I get it....and it SUCKS....

I want to see the KEYS with colors...not little blurbs above the keys...


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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 11:00:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/15 11:30:49
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I'm REALLY getting tired of this forum software taking me to MY 
FIRST POST after the OP, instead of to the LAST POST as it's supposed
to when I click on it...


Could be worse. I'm always taken to Bassdaddy's posts. Not taken by, taken to, mind you 

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 11:27:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/15 16:17:20
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I get it....and it SUCKS....

I want to see the KEYS with colors...not little blurbs above the keys...




Yes, this is a terrible change.  Perhaps they took a cue from Sonar's new themes and the track strip coloring? ;)

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/15 15:13:13 (permalink)
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I get it....and it SUCKS....

I want to see the KEYS with colors...not little blurbs above the keys...


Yes, this is truly a dumb move. It looks like I won't be upgrading until I'm forced to because a new library that I want needs the new version number.
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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/16 21:46:27 (permalink)
Yes, thanks for the great info everyone, Kontakt 5.6 looks like an update I don't want to get, yet.
Changing / removing the colours on the virtual keyboard would certainly be a showstopper for my workflow.
Has anyone found any advantage to the new look they've changed that to ?
I just don't want to believe it's merely to accommodate NI hardware's colour coded flashy light keyboard system.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/16 23:50:23 (permalink)
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I just don't want to believe it's merely to accommodate NI hardware's colour coded flashy light keyboard system.



I'd bet my last dollar that's what it is.  That's the way marketing people think.  You can tell that the marketing people have a strong say in everything at NI.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/17 03:48:37 (permalink)
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I just don't want to believe it's merely to accommodate NI hardware's colour coded flashy light keyboard system.



I'd bet my last dollar that's what it is.  That's the way marketing people think.  You can tell that the marketing people have a strong say in everything at NI.


It most certainly is.
 
"How do we sell more of our keyboards?"

"We make it difficult for them to see the keyswitches by making it look like our keyboard. That way it's always in the backs of their minds that the whole key will light up on our board when they squint to look at the little light on the player. We'll rake in the sales!"
 
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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/17 05:34:52 (permalink)
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For those having problems, this is where you can d/l the last version to rollback to.
You must be logged into your NI account.
 
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/downloads/update-manager/?search=kontakt&refresh=ky6h12010ra
 

 
thanks for that - now I feel safer ;-)

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/17 09:28:15 (permalink)
I have been away and have not upgraded yet, I have a NI keyboard and love the light guide for keyswitches but I don't like the sound of the changes to the virtual keyboard either.

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Re: Kontakt Updated to 5.6 2016/09/17 10:01:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2016/09/17 10:44:30
There's a petition on the NI forum to restore key colors. Hopefully, the blowback will convince them to make the new scheme optional.


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