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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 21:20:27
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
jkleban
So, if bought directly from BOZ, do we get all the formats including PC? If I buy from SONAR in addition to PC, do we get the other formats for use in other environments?
Just asking,
JIm
I believe that is the case but I'll check with Boz on that.
Absolutely YES.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 21:31:46
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Anderton
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Kind of sucks though that you've so recently been pushing what amounts to half an upgrade based on promises of future goodies over the coming year and yet the first thing you announce has a price tag that's almost as much as people just paid for the upgrade ??
Consider this:
"You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel)."
Please be aware that Cakewalk sells products other than SONAR. The CA-2A is cross-platform and has sold very well because, well, it's pretty awesome. Cakewalk is clearly interested in offering something to Mac and non-SONAR users, while offering the bonus of ProChannel support if you are a SONAR user.
This is very different from a Cakewalk-created upgrade to SONAR that's part of the membership program.
As to the cost, I can quibble over whether a price that's 66% of the upgrade is "almost" as much, but Cakewalk is not going to undercut Boz Digital Labs' pricing. However, you DO receive a ProChannel version, which the Boz package does not include. [edit: apparently now it does]
Yeah fair dues Craig. And I might add even though a ProChannel version is on their website, it will be CW who continue to provide support. And right there is the value-add for buyers. TBH, having a matching price is quite fair in my book, folks do not seem to appreciate the "extra, over and above" is the Pro Channel support. I just hope I can get the $'s together before the special ends! Good drum EQ's and Compressors are few and far between!
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 21:45:32
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Nice to see more third party support for PC.
Keep 'em coming...
Cheers..
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 21:56:02
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Cake-ites unite....tomorrow....
Seriously...I waited to buy hoping that Cake would have a better price...
They lose...I'll buy from Boz and give him the money....
I don't HAVE to support anyone...but, if the price is the SAME...I'll support
the developer...
Cheers!
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 22:01:20
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All I wanted was the compressor, so $65 was a sweet deal by my standards. This plugin is far better than anything already native to Sonar.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 22:04:24
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cclarry
I don't HAVE to support anyone...but, if the price is the SAME...I'll support
the developer...
Make sure of course, you don't accidentally use it in the ProChannel (wink)
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 22:06:53
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Had a look at the Boz site, only sells in dollors, so $99.00 plus a a cuouple more for a Foreign payment on my UK card.
Had a look on the Cake site, and because I am in Vietnam and I can't pay in Dong, it defaults to Dollors, so same deal. When I change to UK pricing I avoid the Foreign Charge to my card, but hit a VAT.
What's to stop Non US customers choosing paying in dollors to avoid local taxation to the cost of a foreign transaction cost. Is it just an expectation of honesty? Am I expected to declare to the Vietnamese government my download?
EDIT: New cakewalk store payment option looks tidy
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 22:50:04
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pencilartist
This plugin is far better than anything already native to Sonar.
What in particular do you like about this comp over the other ones native to Sonar?
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 22:57:37
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Can we get screenshots of the PC modules. The only one I can find is the compressor.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 23:06:06
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BRuys
pencilartist
This plugin is far better than anything already native to Sonar.
What in particular do you like about this comp over the other ones native to Sonar?
Mostly the fact it doesn't squash the audio. It doesn't "feel" like a compressor until you overdo it.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/04 23:43:24
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Not convinced I need another comp/ eq even if it does look nice and support the ProChannel.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 00:09:42
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I've been reading alot of feed back, it being rated as great on Vocals, Bass, Individual drums and a drum buss. Is this thing going to end up on everything 
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 00:11:00
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Just a quick pseudo-review here. I bought it and like it quite a bit. Haven't played with the EQ much (though the idea of bands in parallel instead of serial merits spending some time), but the compressor is a fairly different beast than any of the other comps I own. The hardware it's modeled off is a FET compressor, so it does that "FET thing" with the high-mids, but it's slow. The fastest attack is slower than the fastest attack on my SSL (.25 on the Bendeth, .1 on the SSL) and the release also goes slower than the SSL; slowest setting on the SSL is 1.6, 3.2 on the Bendeth. And of course that's nowhere near as fast as my 1176's. It's actually tough to describe what it's like, because I don't think I have anything quite like it. I spent some time with other compressors...1176's (both real and virtual), SSL, Distressors, Tonelux, PSP, Waves, yada yada yada, and I can't find anything quite like it. I think it's something about the attack and release curves, but I could be wrong. Anyway, I like it...it's a nice color to add to the palette. You can push it pretty hard, and it really brings up room tones on drums in a nice way. I spent a few minutes with Superior Drummer with some added roomy-ness from ReMatrix and I pretty quickly figured out why it's advertised as (part of) that "When The Levee Breaks" sound. I may be a compressor nerd, but I think it's pretty cool. Nice addition to the bakery, Cake. Dean PS - Did I really just use "yada yada yada" in a written post? *sigh* I gotta quit watching Seinfeld reruns. EDIT - the more I listen to it the more I think it's something about the release curve. When you speed up the release to really bring up the room sound it does something that ends up being almost like pre-delay on a reverb. I really like it...
post edited by Razorwit - 2015/02/05 00:18:42
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 00:19:26
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Australian exchange rate is so poor at the moment USD99 = AUD138. Wasn't that long ago we were 1:1. Getting stuff online from overseas is getting super expensive and hard to afford.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 02:51:46
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Hi i'm checked my profile in boz digital and there is an update 1.04....maybe is the pc version!!!!
I'm working on my last live deep house prj and i have changed all my tracks settings adding +10db at drums,live bass,vocals and guitars tracks.
I had not any problems to found the right sound.....i'm very satisfied with the bass line....incredible body of fundamentals freqs and,with comp in pre,awesome transients,smooth but fizzy.
Congrat Boz....i'm in love with this beast.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 03:07:05
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 05:24:50
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CakeAlexS
Nice to see more third party support for PC.
Keep 'em coming...
Cheers..
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 07:37:10
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I don't mean that the BOZ job has a lower value. They did a great job and I would like to buy it but if I pay Sonar upgrade €140 I can't buy a couple of plugins for €100.
I only think that low cost doesn't mean low quality but, often, larger amount of customers...
See what happens for some apple APPS for example...
Platinum flyes!
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 07:50:15
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piangio
I don't mean that the BOZ job has a lower value. They did a great job and I would like to buy it but if I pay Sonar upgrade €140 I can't buy a couple of plugins for €100.
I only think that low cost doesn't mean low quality but, often, larger amount of customers...
See what happens for some apple APPS for example...
Platinum flyes!
Sorry....but...you pay $140 couse you are Sonar owner.....now Boz deal is to buy a new plugs (for awesome emulation).... It's only my thought. Best
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 08:59:50
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2015/02/05 11:14:37
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This may make me sound old but Sonar Platinum (and many other modern DAWs) offer absolutely astounding features for what I would have paid for a four track cassette deck 20 years ago! Expecting Cakewalk to throw in a third party VST bundle for free on top of what Sonar already provides may be somewhat unreasonable. Please bear in mind that I tend to be very grateful for everything I have in life!
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 09:44:01
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2015/02/05 10:17:28
cclarry
I don't HAVE to support anyone...but, if the price is the SAME...I'll support
the developer...
Either way you support the developer. But ny purchasing from Cakewalk, you support the people who were responsible for ProChannel development and will continue to be responsible for ProChannel support.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 09:51:14
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☄ Helpfulby piangio 2015/02/05 10:27:56
piangio
See what happens for some apple APPS for example...
Apple makes its money from the hardware, and priced apps low as an inducement to buy the hardware. By setting the price low, they set a standard that makes it very difficult for other companies to make money. Few music software manufacturers will tell you that producing apps is financially worthwhile. It makes sense only if they can tie it in with hardware, as companies like Line 6 and IK Multimedia do. The low price of apps is exactly why you don't see a flood of killer music apps.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 10:34:27
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You are right. Simply I don't buy it. Mine was only a wrong point of view. Bye  !
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 12:13:38
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Note: The demo from the Boz site appears not to have the PC version of it.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 14:05:16
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piangio
You are right.
Simply I don't buy it.
Mine was only a wrong point of view.
Bye!
No, not a "wrong" point of view at all. Many people are not aware that there's a very low rate of return on apps. So the apps either need to be simple, tied in with hardware, or offer some kind of unique advantage (like programming a synth from it).
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 14:11:30
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Anderton
paulo
Kind of sucks though that you've so recently been pushing what amounts to half an upgrade based on promises of future goodies over the coming year and yet the first thing you announce has a price tag that's almost as much as people just paid for the upgrade ??
Consider this:
"You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel)."
Please be aware that Cakewalk sells products other than SONAR. The CA-2A is cross-platform and has sold very well because, well, it's pretty awesome. Cakewalk is clearly interested in offering something to Mac and non-SONAR users, while offering the bonus of ProChannel support if you are a SONAR user.
This is very different from a Cakewalk-created upgrade to SONAR that's part of the membership program.
As to the cost, I can quibble over whether a price that's 66% of the upgrade is "almost" as much, but Cakewalk is not going to undercut Boz Digital Labs' pricing. However, you DO receive a ProChannel version, which the Boz package does not include. [edit: apparently now it does]
Consider this: My comment wasn't addressed to you. Open questions I'm more than happy to hear anything you may have to say, but comments addressed to specific people are exactly that. You regularly point out that you don't actually work for CW so I don't see why you feel the need to answer on their behalf all the time. I'm well aware that CW sell other products and FWIW I have no idea if this particular product is good value or not, it may well be excellent, it might be the best plug-in in the whole universe, my point was that the timing is a bit lousy given that the upgrade pricing was based on a few minor modifications, but otherwise mostly promises of good things to come that will be included in what has already been paid, then the very first new thing announced has a price tag. That's all. Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 Pro is on sale at $125, so yeah $99 is pretty near to that. I think most people would consider 80% of something to be most of it, but hey I'm sure I'm wrong about that too.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 14:17:16
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
We are pleased to announce that the new David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor is now available at the Cakewalk Store for a special introductory price. You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel).
The new David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor is a one-of-a-kind plugin that includes a Compressor, Equaliser and a Channel Strip with both the Compressor and Equaliser (available only in the bundle). The brainchild of producer/engineer David Bendeth (Paramore, Breaking Benjamin, Papa Roach), this marks the first time that this legendary hardware has been emulated as software plugin. The original unit was used on classic recordings (think Led Zeppelin drums) and is perfect for drums and vocals. The hardware version sells for over $2000 but right now you can purchase this unit for only $99, which also includes new ProChannel modules for the Compressor and Equaliser.
Learn more
Buy the bundle today for only $99
Andrew, I just purchased the bundle and installed it in Plat. It seems that if you use the Prochannel module, several of the functions are missing, compared to opening it up in the FX chain. FX chain (in Prochannel) is also the only way to pull up the combined EQ, Compressor/Expander. I realize that you have limited space. So why have it in a PC module?[Never mind, I found the little ?] Also, is there a .pdf manual for this? I know the controls are pretty industry standard, but just asking... Thanks, Walt
post edited by WallyG - 2015/02/05 16:47:33
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 14:59:29
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2015/02/05 20:55:04
paulo
Anderton
paulo
Kind of sucks though that you've so recently been pushing what amounts to half an upgrade based on promises of future goodies over the coming year and yet the first thing you announce has a price tag that's almost as much as people just paid for the upgrade ??
Consider this:
"You can purchase the bundle today for only $99 and that includes all Mac/PC formats (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, RTAS and ProChannel)."
Please be aware that Cakewalk sells products other than SONAR. The CA-2A is cross-platform and has sold very well because, well, it's pretty awesome. Cakewalk is clearly interested in offering something to Mac and non-SONAR users, while offering the bonus of ProChannel support if you are a SONAR user.
This is very different from a Cakewalk-created upgrade to SONAR that's part of the membership program.
As to the cost, I can quibble over whether a price that's 66% of the upgrade is "almost" as much, but Cakewalk is not going to undercut Boz Digital Labs' pricing. However, you DO receive a ProChannel version, which the Boz package does not include. [edit: apparently now it does]
Consider this:
My comment wasn't addressed to you. Open questions I'm more than happy to hear anything you may have to say, but comments addressed to specific people are exactly that. You regularly point out that you don't actually work for CW so I don't see why you feel the need to answer on their behalf all the time.
I'm well aware that CW sell other products and FWIW I have no idea if this particular product is good value or not, it may well be excellent, it might be the best plug-in in the whole universe, my point was that the timing is a bit lousy given that the upgrade pricing was based on a few minor modifications, but otherwise mostly promises of good things to come that will be included in what has already been paid, then the very first new thing announced has a price tag. That's all.
Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 Pro is on sale at $125, so yeah $99 is pretty near to that. I think most people would consider 80% of something to be most of it, but hey I'm sure I'm wrong about that too.
We feel the upgrade is a great value and is more than just a few modifications. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and everyone must judge value for themselves. For example, anyone who does a lot of vocal work will probably find VocalSync to be extremely useful. Anyone who loves drums and drum programming will immediately see value in getting three more AD2 kits. I think you could look at it the opposite way and what a great value our upgrades have been over the years. $149 for an upgrade is on the lower side of upgrade pricing for most DAWs. Just my opinion.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 15:01:36
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Images of the PC modules please, both of them.
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Re: Now available: David Bendeth Signature Series Compressor
2015/02/05 15:02:33
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