Yes I believe it is x64 now. I remember reading 32 Bit & 64 Bit versions both included.

 

djjhart@aol.com
Pretty scary when Freddie H , is praising cubase .. Is cubase 64 bit?

 
Honestly, other than smart tools and skylight, Cubase is light years ahead in every department. I suspect Roland have realised this.
 

I'm not sure about the difference between artist and full however these are the thing I've noticed
 

• midi notes use colour to give you a visual representation of velocity - red being hot, blue being cool. All of this is configurable
• select a section - hit ctrl d - repeats it - at the right section
• when you open a midi clip the piano roll zooms to the right level
• you can route 1 drum track to many different drum sources - each drum sound can have its own quantisation set. Setting a quantisation level such as whole and using the draw too inserts a beat at each whole beat.
• note expression is amazing. You can apply for instance pitch bend to one note rather an all of them - great for string parts
• if you want to transpose the entire track simply use chord tracks
• much more granularity in how quantise - the beginning, the end, the duration, all of them etc
• press q and the whole midi track will quantise 0 you don't have to select all notes to do so
• visual feedback on the keyboard when a key is played

 
 
 
 

Hows the learning curve with cubase?

Their new exclusive dongle makes it difficult to run a demo without buying a dongle.
 
Hence my most basic question about the track view.
 
I guess if you like it and buy it you get a an extra dongle?
 
 

mike_mccue
 
I have a question about mixing in Cubase.
 
I am getting the impression that you can not mix effectively from the track view because you can not access all your controls in it.
 
Is that correct? I haven't seen the console view of SONAR in a decade.
 
Consoles seem so last century to me, but I am getting the impression that I would have to use the console view to mix in Cubase.
 
Yes? No? How is it different from SONAR's track view?
 
Thanks.
 
best regards,
mike

The track view in Cubase is really around recording and editing. The mixer is where yuo are expected to do the mixing. I - like you - used track view to do both. I miss this feature actually.  if there is a way to do this I haven't found it - yet. +1 for Sonar.

dorism
Honestly, other than smart tools and skylight, Cubase is light years ahead in every department. I suspect Roland have realised this.

Cubase has some great tools (I have version 7 here), but there are some areas where it's lagging:
Off the top of my head...

• No EFX per-clip
• Doesn't offer 64Bit dual-precision float summing (which makes rounding-error a moot point)
• Doesn't provide more than 6-channel surround (not a big deal to many users)
• Doesn't allow free routing of VSTi outputs (Sonar can route any VSTi output to any audio track which is nice for working with multi-channel virtual instruments)

Again, Cubase has some great features... but all hosts have limitations.
Find the ones you can best live with... or have the "perfect DAW" by committee (using numerous apps).
The later is my solution...

Thank you Jim.
 
Both posts are very informative. I feel like I should give Cubase7 a try... I haven't tried since I demo'd it against Cakewalk Pro Audio 6 and choose Cakewalk. You probably don't remember but you sold me a Waves 4 card to make it all work great. :-)
 
 
Can someone explain how the E-license works? If I buy one to demo do you also get one when you buy the software? or is it always the case that you purchase that separately?
 
Does it work similarly to an iLok? Will I be able to get all the things I need and get it licensed even though my actual DAW never gets on the internet?
 
Thanks.
 
best regards,
mike

I found the answer:
 
from: http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/accessories/usb_elicenser.html
 

USB-eLicenser is included with the following products*:

• Cubase 7
• Cubase Artist 7
• Nuendo 6
• WaveLab 7

USB-eLicenser is not included with the following products:

• HALion 4
• HALion Sonic
• The Grand 3
• Nuendo Live
• Yamaha Vintage Plug-in Collection
• Rupert Neve Portico Plug-ins

*This applies only for the full version of the product, as updates do not contain a Steinberg Key (USB-eLicenser).

Thank Jim!
 
I was posting at the same time: :-)
 
 
And this answer:
 
from: http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/productactivation/usb_elicenser.html
 
"In case you have no connection to the Internet on the computer on which you wish to use the USB-eLicenser, you can always use a different computer for activation. Simply install the eLCC separately on the Internet computer without installing the complete product. Download the latest installer for Mac and PC"

I wonder how well the dongle works for Steinberg in terms of its bottom line, compared to something that doesn't have a dongle, like Sonar. Taking a quick look on the most popular torrent site, it seems like there is currently no crack available for Cubase 7 (most recent crack I could see was for Cubase 5) while it appears that people are freely downloading a working crack of Sonar X2 (perhaps Cakewalk should get on top of this). God knows how much companies like Cakewalk lose to piracy. Maybe it has an impact on how much they can afford to invest in the development of X2 as compared to Cubase. 

I too have enough instruments, plugs, etc. etc. and don't think I need the full ride. 
 
Myself, I'm wondering about the MIDI editing tools & options - are they the same in the Artist version as the full?
 
Maybe even the Elements version has the same MIDI stuff?? Anyone know? The website isn't really all that clear.

I had Cubase LE that came with an audio interface or something and that gets me the upgrade for $399.  I got Music123 to match a 15% Musicians Friend sale and they beat it.  I paid $326 for the upgrade to the full Cubase 7.

jimusic
Boy oh boy - I've been reading a 13 pager on KVR about Cubase 7.
 
Wow! Lots & lots of issues there!
 
I do realize that there are issues with each & every DAW and can be very user specific, and triggered by some 3rd party VSTs, computer configuration & customization, etc. etc., but holy smokes - some folks are really burning up over there! Ouch!!!

IMPOSSIBLE!!! 

This is an interesting thread.  I am very happy with Sonar X2a, but would not mind having a second DAW program and Cubase 7 looks like it would be good.  After reading through this thread I took a harder look at Cubase 7 and found the new version appealing and the tutorials very well done.  HOWEVER, the last several post here have raised an important obstacle for me--the eLicense USB KEY.  This Steinberg USB eLicense Key would mean that I would have to run THREE dongles on my DAW:  1) an iLok2 for my Slate and Softube vsts; 2) another USB stick for Waves new licence system; and 3) this dedicated USB eLicense USB key for Steinberg.  This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that.
 
If I were to switch I think Cubase 7 would probably be my choice, but Sonar x2a fits my needs for now and thankfully it does not require a USB key.  Just my musings on this topic.