I must admit, that was rather impressive to watch. Is almost like "the way things should be."

kennywtelejazz
 
To Zink Trumpet & abacab ,
 
Last night I did what I was talking about a few posts ago ...
I opened up Waveform , took one of the Waveform auto generated chord progressions and played around with it for a little while ...Also ,messed around with the octaves and tried a number of different synths .
Then I opened up BIAB  while Waveform was still opened ...picked a Celtic Tune because I loved the melody .
I slid the melody to the place where you can use the BIAB DAW plugin option , I put BIAB into that mode and slid the melody over as a midi to Waveform on the same track I had the auto generated stuff on
Man it worked great and all was good in my world
Also I haven't seen this mentioned yet ..Waveform has an option where it has what appears to be hundreds of groove options that can be applied to midi
 
Oh I forgot to mention in my last post that even though I had used 2 different keys in source material , Waveform has a real nice midi transpose function 
I was able to set each midi source clip for key , octaves and even chord type with a level of simplicity and versatility that was unparalleled
 
Kenny

Hey Kenny, very nice!  I saved all this info to a notepad on my desktop, to try out later. 
 
Thanks again!

BobF
 
Is Waveform a generic plug, or Tracktion only?
 
Nevermind ... I see it's Yet Another DAW ... I'm DAW'd out
 

Waveform is Tracktion 8, with a new name, a mixer console, the Collective synth, and some new MIDI musicality tools.

ZincTrumpet
Abacab did you check out Reason Chords & Scales?

https://youtu.be/aMqfUXlLznA

Quite neat but I think Waveform still has more to offer and as far as I can tell it is not included in the entry level version of Reason.

Ha! Thanks for that!
 
I think that Reason offers some interesting tools, but they have always been on my blacklist. The reason is that they don't allow VST integration, so I cannot use my own instruments.  Their loss!
 
Regarding that video, it is promoted as a blatant one key chord and scale player that surely has some purists cringing.  I actually would prefer something like Cthulhu to assist with playing chords, without having that type of handholding so that I cannot play an incorrect note.
 
To be clear, I am looking for composition assistance, not playing assistance.  I understand music theory, so I am just looking for something to give some framework of reference within the DAW while attempting to write a tune.  I would like to know what notes and chords fit within the project key I am using, especially if I am working outside of my comfort zone.

Thanks abacab and Kenny, I think I will have to try the Waveform demo real soon!

Just noticed that there is a way to just render the single MIDI clip that you are working with in the pattern editor.
 
Down in the lower section, if you look at the MIDI clip info pane to the left of the Pattern Generator, you will see a "Render Clip" button.
 
So the quick and dirty way is: Render Clip > Render MIDI > Render the selected clip to MIDI...

Fleer
You guys really have to get a room.

So how's that Waveform working out for ya???

Fleer
You guys really have to get a room.

Just a room ?
We need the whole top floor including The Penthouse ...
Let' see there's P 5 , Waveform , Air Synths and Plugs , and a few other musical odds and ends thrown in there for good measure ...
 
all the best
Kenny

I was playing with this a little this weekend and cannot seem to find a couple (hopefully simple) things. Are guitar chords also represented? And if you modify a chord, I am not sure how to replicate that (either save flat out as a new chord, or have it mirror into other instances).
 
I didn't delve too deeply into the demo yet, but something as simple as Dsus2 comes up as a triad, so modified it (before finishing a simple progression), and had to repeat that again. I am not sure if the mirroring effect only works if they are already all in place.
 
I nabbed the manual from the other thread, but the videos seem more helpful for me.

Thanks Kenny!

kitekrazy1
I'm so use to creating my own but not creating clips but using notepad to label progressions.  Once again a feature like this has been in FL Studio for quite some time.  I do like Waveform.  I have Liquid Notes, demoing Cthuwhatever and sometimes is takes a rocket science to get these to work.  These often suffer from poor documentation when it comes to setup. 

The best thing about Waveform is that these MIDI tools are baked right into the program, and do not require any plugins to operate them.  Plugins such as Cthulhu affect only one track, rather than the entire project. 
 
Some apps that can perform re-harmonization functions are forced to work as separate standalone apps in order to manipulate the harmonic structure simultaneously for all of the tracks, as is the case with Liquid Notes.  I have that one too, but I think that would come in handy further down the road, when you have your song pretty well developed, and just want to tinker with the harmonic color of the whole thing in one shot, rather than track by track.
 
With Waveform you don't need to use the Pattern Generator if you want to create your own patterns. You can simply add a root note, then enter "ctrl +3" or "ctrl + 7" for a Major triad or 7th, or else hit the Chord menu and add from many other chord types from the menu.  Then you can select and copy the chord notes and paste (ctrl+v) the chord as many times as you need.  Select and adjust the chord notes as a group, moving the root note of each chord as desired to create your progression.  Invert up or down as you wish with "shift + T" or "ctrl +shift + T".  The optional Marker track is useful for marking your chord changes on the timeline.
 
The Create Chord options are:

 
But I really find the Pattern Generator is very inspiring for trying out new ideas.
 
I did try the FL Studio 12 demo, but Waveform MIDI blows it away, in my opinion.  Although, I do like the PRV in FL Studio, it is very good!  But the rest of the GUI just felt awkward to work with.
 
Bottom line, I'll probably never use Waveform as a DAW to record or mix audio with.  My decision was based entirely on the MIDI tools.  But It is nice to know that it has audio tools if needed.  It also does include a Melodyne Essentials 4 license with ARA integration.

kitekrazy1
 
Best thing to do is collect your own midi files. You can audition them in Sonar and see which synth works best with them.

Yup, been there, done that.  Now with Waveform in the workflow, the plan is to build the MIDI files there, using any of my synth plugins.  Then export the MIDI tracks and finish them in Sonar, and perhaps replace some sounds and add FX to get what I want.  But the good thing is that I can use the same instruments and presets in both programs, to avoid any potential messy MIDI details that could arise when switching instruments.  But happy accidents can happen! 

Nino Vargas
Best for ipad http://laurentcolson.com/chordpolypad.html
 

Just catching up on a few things and this looks like a great find, thanks!
 
Now to try the Waveform demo ... 
 

Thanks scook.
 
By the way, ChordMaps2 (iPad app) has been on sale and the sale has been extended for a day (5.99 instead of 9.99).
Get it on the App store or see more here ...
http://mugglinworks.com/ChordMaps2/