Anderton

bvideo
 
Based on your answer in the other thread, it sounds like the audio has to be populated (bounced) into the aux track, not just echoed through it for these purposes. So no such thing as "virtual" audio...

Remember, you have to make a clip an RFX. You can't make a track, the structure that holds the clip, an RFX. If there's no clip, there's no possibility to create an RFX from it.

Technically, we can make a selection that is not a whole clip, or contains multiple clips, overlapping or not, or portions thereof, including even blank space on a track, and make that into an RFX. Seems there is some function that is serving audio to the region effect and converting the selected region to a new special Region FX clip. It was interesting to think of an aux track as a place where audio from other tracks could be served to a region effect. I.e. not just mixing and concatenating clips that are on the track, but delivering audio through a patch point from existing audio on the contributing tracks. Wild speculation, of course. But then Noel says "The future is wide open :)". I wasn't thinking to propose this, just asking in order to get a feel for aux tracks.

yevster
Whoa! Looks like Sonar is (finally) catching up to other DAWs that have had aux tracks, and then leaping over them by a mile. 
 
I'm guessing patch points don't work with "Freeze", so for CPU-heavy processing of patch point submixes, one would have to input from a patch point onto an audio track, record onto that audio track, and then freeze that audio track. This would be in addition to freezing any tracks feeding into the patch point, so as to not inadvertently change their content while it's not reflected in the sound of the recorded and frozen submix. 
 
So an immediate FR (yes, even before trying it out) would be the ability to freeze all tracks (with all their synths and effects) upstream of a patchpoint. This would also answer the recurring FR for quick-freezing the entire project.
 
Sorry, too excited to wait for the actual download. :D

Is there any more consideration for a Global Freeze? I'm pining for that, still. If that were available, I could save time freezing all individual tracks (even Select All + Freeze would be enough), and perhaps use an Aux or Patch point to add a compressor (for the Echo button on the Aux or Patch-point track) to an incoming vocal without actually applying the incoming effect. Only use it for tracking at a near hardware latency speed, meanwhile, leave all other effects and such in place. It would be a night and day difference in the experience vocalists have in tracking.  

I'm updating the Feature Request with the sequence I'm thinking of. 

They say in the PDF that it still prevents feedback loops. I can see the rationale of that, but I'd prefer it to allow them but give a warning myself.

2:43AM
Yes, these updates sound pretty good!
 
Now, if the measures can be offset (i.e. have lead-in measures -2, -1, 0, etc.), then I think all Negative-Nancy's may be satisfied!

I'll second that!

Blimey! That was quick.

Real fast download and install as well. Was expecting some slowness because of heavy load.
 
But I don't really have any time to play around with this until next weekend. 

Downloaded, installed, and used an aux track to make a mid-side decoding matrix for some drum overhead recordings I've got. It's so much simpler and more elegant than having to buses.

stickman393
Assume nothing. I'm surprised they leaked the newsletter, though, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it shows up before Oct 31.

 SURPRISE!!!!

TheMaartian
Had a bit of a glitch the first time I opened SONAR after the JerMakinMe Plain update. The plugin scanner hung. 

Always remember to check the Task Bar to see if there's some dialog box hidden behind the Splash screen that requires a response.

Okay, Cakewalk wins...I re-enabled the Start Screen. It really is a whole lot faster, it goes away the second you click on the file menu, and it doesn't re-appear when you close the project. Would still like a "list view" for projects, but the annoying elements are gone, and the pinned projects alone are worth it.
 
I would like to see more use of notifications. I know the Bakers are skittish about pushing too much stuff at users, and that's great, but I for one would like to know when new blog posts go up and that sort of thing.
 

Anderton
Okay, Cakewalk wins...I re-enabled the Start Screen. It really is a whole lot faster, it goes away the second you click on the file menu, and it doesn't re-appear when you close the project.

Also, it seems to handle non-English characters much better than before.

I would like to have the start screen start up automatic after closing project

Very impressive. Next trick Noel, make it work on OSX :D.

yevster
Yes, what better way for a DAW to stand out than to copy features from other DAWs?

Good applications copy the features of other applications, great applications listen to their users then rip off the other applications.