polarbear
Does anyone else see these updates and think "It would take me a lifetime to know what any of that means"? Haha. Sounds cool though!

irvin

Anderton

BTW, you did the exact same thing in another thread where I mentioned how PreRoll Recording would be a very useful feature. The conversation took a bizarre twist when you tried to justify not having the feature by claiming that you needed to have coffee or eat a sandwich before recording (like any of that had anything to do with Pre-roll Recording).

 
I was going to let this drop, but that statement is so blatantly dishonest it demands a response. I said nothing of the sort, it was Irvin himself who added a comment (which I think many would consider, to use his words, “condescending” and “downright stupid”) about “eating a sandwich” in the thread he's referencing. The word “sandwich” appears only in his post and quotes of his post. “Coffee” does not appear in any of the thread’s posts.
 
(If anyone cares whether Irvin is telling the truth, please look over this thread. Then, judge for yourself who is being condescending while twisting the conversation in a bizarre direction with comments about eating sandwiches, and who is trying to provide a workaround that will accomplish almost everything Irvin wanted to accomplish.)
 
Given that kind of dishonesty, and the apparent inability to differentiate between a one-click operation and a click/drag/select operation (which had me trying to find out about something that doesn’t exist), there is no point in attempting a dialog nor is it worth taking the time to point out the multiple flaws in the rest of Irvin’s response.
 
As to anyone else reading this thread, please do not be misled by Irvin’s comments. I'm always looking for ways to improve SONAR. I will advocate for functions the community wants if I feel they would improve SONAR. I also make it clear when there’s something I don’t like (e.g., my complaints about the Start Screen and why I had disabled it, at least until the fixes in the latest update).
 

 
Here's the exchange:
 
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The amount of time I need prior to recording changes...for vocals, it has to be long enough to get to the vocal booth, put on the headphones, and start listening. For guitar, I set it so there's enough time to hit the G FORCE button for touching up guitar tuning prior to the punch. In other cases I want a long section beforehand to get into the "groove."

 
I think you're mis-understanding what "Pre-roll" does or what it's used for. You only use it when actually recording, not during the time used for preparing to record (like putting headphones, getting to the vocal booth, eating a sandwich or hitting G FORCE buttons on a guitar - none of that has anything to do with the actual process of recording...lol...).  
 
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I have made bold the part where you claim that pre-roll has to be long enough to "get to the vocal booth, put on the headphones and start listening". 
 
As I replied, Pre-roll has nothing to do with that. And your childish attemps at riling "the masses" against me are just more of your silly and obtuse nature. Those who know what they are doing will see trhough your transparent lies. The rest are free to disagree. No harm done. 
 
You are the dishonest one - and you have been exposed. I have no respect for you.
 
 
 
 
 

2:43AM
Although I am experiencing some SERIOUS latency/lag for some reason.  Ouch!

2:43AM

Doktor Avalanche
Is your first CPU core peaking?

Nope! No burden on the CPU; the meter is completely clear of activity.
 
I start a new blank project ("Normal" template), insert an instance of Virus Control (VC), enable the LIVE button as I have done for years up to this point, play a few notes and notice a lag...like a SUPER-MEGA lag of about 6-7 seconds!
 
If I turn off the LIVE button, and key-play, the the sound is a little more sync'ed.  If I hit the transport PLAY button in Sonar and key a few notes, the lag is MASSIVE, like an apparent 500ms to 1sec!  Then I enable the PDC button in Sonar, proceed to key a few notes, and there is NO lag.  If I disable the PDC button and repeat, the lag comes back.
 
Not looking good at this point.
 
EDIT: And Sonar is frequently hanging, white-screen of "almost death."
 
EDIT: It may be the VST3 version of Virus Control that is causing the issue.  The VST2 may be working OK.  Still evaluating.
 
Overall, if I get more problems, I will post in the proper section...

Notecrusher

Anderton

BTW, you did the exact same thing in another thread where I mentioned how PreRoll Recording would be a very useful feature. The conversation took a bizarre twist when you tried to justify not having the feature by claiming that you needed to have coffee or eat a sandwich before recording (like any of that had anything to do with Pre-roll Recording).

 
I was going to let this drop, but that statement is so blatantly dishonest it demands a response. I said nothing of the sort, it was Irvin himself who added a comment (which I think many would consider, to use his words, “condescending” and “downright stupid”) about “eating a sandwich” in the thread he's referencing. The word “sandwich” appears only in his post and quotes of his post. “Coffee” does not appear in any of the thread’s posts.
 
(If anyone cares whether Irvin is telling the truth, please look over this thread. Then, judge for yourself who is being condescending while twisting the conversation in a bizarre direction with comments about eating sandwiches, and who is trying to provide a workaround that will accomplish almost everything Irvin wanted to accomplish.)
 
Given that kind of dishonesty, and the apparent inability to differentiate between a one-click operation and a click/drag/select operation (which had me trying to find out about something that doesn’t exist), there is no point in attempting a dialog nor is it worth taking the time to point out the multiple flaws in the rest of Irvin’s response.
 
As to anyone else reading this thread, please do not be misled by Irvin’s comments. I'm always looking for ways to improve SONAR. I will advocate for functions the community wants if I feel they would improve SONAR. I also make it clear when there’s something I don’t like (e.g., my complaints about the Start Screen and why I had disabled it, at least until the fixes in the latest update).
 

Craig, Irvin is saying you introduced a strawman into the previous conversation and he used "eating a sandwich" as a metaphor. You are getting crazy tangled up in your anger at him and going off the deep end. Calm down. Sometimes you do get condescending in your responses. And you seem to think that putting a smiley washes it away. You get boatloads of praise here. You are going to get a little criticism too.