probably 75% of that explosive guitar sound.....  is actually the drum sound.
 
there are so many good amp models out there....even free ones...  that it doesnt take much to get a pretty decent sound.
 
Dial in a decent sound, double track it and pan L/R to taste....and make the drums slam.  The drums bring the energy in this style of music.
 
using a modeler will help rule out of it has something to do with your amp/tone/signal chain or if you are getting good sounds but the mix in general needs some work for them to come through like you want

greg_moreira
this is actually not bad at all, and I wont stand by my original guesstimate that the drums are possibly the culprit. 

 
Thanks. Drums are important indeed, but a good bassguitar sound is at least as important! Again, I didn't change much to the overall sound. Perhaps the cutting around 120hz on the guitar tracks and boosting everything below 100hz just gave more room to the lower frequencies of these instruments.
 

greg_moreira
I hear classic V30 in there.  Its not a bad sound at all, but it does have that roundish tone with a mid spike vibe to it for sure.

 
Gotto dissappoint you on this one, I own both a v30 and a G12t75 cab, and I miked up the G12t75 speaker cab for this one.
 

greg_moreira
My suggestion..  buy yourself an MXR 10 band EQ and put it in the loop of the amp.  not out front.  in the loop.

 
There is actually an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop! However it's not switched on.. I only use it to add a bit of low-end for when people come to visit, it just sounds better in the room. Perhaps I should try your suggestions.
 

greg_moreira
there are so many good amp models out there....even free ones...  that it doesnt take much to get a pretty decent sound.

 
Sorry, I did try most of them, free and not-so-free, and none of them can replicate the "real" thing, IMO. There is this "airy" touch to the sound when using a real amp, plugins tend to sound too "close"..
 
Thanks for the input!

greg_moreira
That is a surprise.  Your tone is super close to what I would purposefully dial in for a straight forward rock sound ...and I happen to use A v30 cab in those instances because it gets it so darn easy.  You had mentioned dialing in some extra mids however, so that might be part of that flavor I hear.  You'd also mentioned the cab is an X pattern, so maybe just some of the V30 speaker is bleeding in :)

 
I urgently have to update my first post again, the cab I had at the time was indeed an X pattern, but recently I found out they didn't had the same resistance (8/16ohm), and therefor I swapped them again to their original cabs, so there's definitely no V30 in the neighbourhood! :p
 

greg_moreira
Check this vid out.  Its long.....but misha and the band periphery are very established in this type of genre of music and you can see the type of guitar tones he is dialing in with the sort of gear practically all of us have in our home studios.  Just a guitar straight into a little 2 channel interface and some amp sims and it crushes.  There are bits and pieces of him playing and recording throughout the video, so you can here the tones he is getting with a very bare bones approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9VhozNHNk

 
Excellent video right there and great recource, thanks.
 

greg_moreira
but yeah I would suggest pushing the gain a little, cutting mids a little(and playing with that EQ in the loop a little more) and when you mic....  mic very close to the center.  too much of the outer perimeter of the cone will start to introduce some roundness and classic vibe back into things

 
The position I use is cap/edge - on axis. I have been told that it is impossible to get a good sound from the cap only, that's why I didn't went any closer to the center..
Mic positions
 
Cheers

another cool video here that I happened across(right in line after the other I linked)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfEh79A0b0U
 
keep in mind to this isnt an 'every single time' sort of deal.  If you are always using the same gear I suggest maybe taking some of these steps, finding a spot in the room where the amp sounds great and going through as much of this 'process' as you can til you nail it once.
 
then make note of mic placement, amp position, amp settings etc and you can quickly recreate it any time you are ready.
 
my earlier suggestion of the amp sim thing 'sort of' can go hand in hand with this deal.  You are still in discovery mode trying to craft the best recorded tone.  You have a great tone, but clearly you personally want something more from it...  so figuring out what sounds best to you in your mixes is still an ongoing project right.  Amp sims are so flexible and easy to just flip between on the fly you can quickly figure out what you like in a sim...  Just so you have a reference to say "I like this kind of tone and character".  then as you are playing with amp settings and mic positions you have a goal to get to.
 
you are basically looking for the sweet spot in mic placement and eq/drive settings on the amp that returns a general sound that you cheated to quickly find.  Like for example if you really dug that tone misha had in the earlier video...  take a snapshot of that and then get to tweaking on the amp and mic placement til your own tone suddenly starts to have similar character.  Its just a reference is all.
 
fyi reamp box makes this stuff easier, but there is no rule that says you cant just play it live a few times with different mic positions.  Or have a buddy sweep the mic around while you are jamming and you listen through phones.  I did it the old fashioned way myself without any reamping ability and now I generally know which mic's Im going to throw in front of what cab and where to place them.
 
if you arent worried about keeping your cabs pristine you could even mark the grille cloth with a marker or something so you know right away where you like to aim the mic once you find the best spot.
 

straighttothebar
Again, great piece of advice! Thx man. Another thing, you mentioned earlier about the tone being more suitable for "rock" instead of metal got me thinking maybe the ENGL Savage just isn't made for this kind of music? Or am I seeying that wrong? Do you have any experience with this amp?

I dont have direct experience.   Never owned one but I have heard a few and heard some really convincing metal tones out of them.  If you check youtube you can find a lot of guys rocking the savage with some serious metal tones, so I think it seems more than capable.
 
just a matter of getting all the fine details figured out.

Mixing a whole slew of similar instruments together has always presented some problems for me. The last time I attempted it the only EQ I had was a basic non dynamic EQ.
 
If I were doing a wall of guitars now I would use Neutron or a similar plug in with the ability to compare EQ's of multiple tracks and  allow you to see it visually and move the EQ freq. around to avoid those inevitable clashes.
Maybe use a dynamic EQ to tame unruly mids. Look at an analyzer to see where all the energy is in the track. Bass doesn't cut, the mids do, If the audio lined up I would try to match the mid frequency pluck of the bass guitar to the higher guitar parts. If you have both of those working in tandem you might get the best of both worlds. Cut the mud out of the bass, maybe duck the bass from the drum track.
 
No two mixes are ever identical, but this is where I would start. Little things could muck it up fast, like to much gain in the busses, too much or the wrong kind of compression on individual tracks. I could easily see one of these large metal mixes taking all day and then some to get right. I feel fer ya.