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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/15 09:53:17 (permalink)
I got the album tracks to master in Mixbus 3 and I found they were in 48K. Mixbus had a terrible time just creating a session at 48K. It resisted with all its might!  After a lot of wrestling and crashes I managed to get it setup and playing correctly. You should not have to fight it so !
 
They dial in quite a lot of tape saturation as a default setting on the buses and the master so keep your eye on that and also they have a limiter switched on too. Once you pull the tape saturaton back and kill the limiter it all starts sounding a little more transient. You can soften things a little too much sometimes.
 
There is some stuff wrong with MB but I am positive and looking forward to it being rock solid. It is like any important update. It may contain a few bugs.
 
Have not checked midi yet or the included virtual instrument.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/15 10:02:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2015/07/15 10:43:47
I have no problem with 48khz with my Presonus VSL44. I have read in a thread over at Harrison that people were having problems with certain interfaces.
I use ARC2 so I setup a template for it. "A tip"... at the bottom of the masterbus strip where it says post, click that until it says custom. Now in the fx bin you'll have "meter-Master" show up. Drag that up before ARC2 and your meters will remain accurate. The limiter needs to be off as it is last in the signal flow by default. Use a 3rd party limiter with ARC2.
The master bus fx bin should look like this.
 
EQ
COMP
Fader
"Limiter of choice"
Meter-master
ARC2

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/15 17:40:35 (permalink)
Thank you Clint very much. That is a cool feature. I am finding I am switching the order of the channel EQ around with a plug in EQ in mastering mode on tracks for example.
 
MB is well behaved once it settles down. Its like an excited dog wanting to go out for a walk but then settles into a steady pace.
 
I am going to have to do the limiting in another DAW for now so I can use Xenon.  But I am liking the sound of the mixer a lot and the multiband mastering EQ and compressor are really excellent for fine tuning things.  They sound stellar there is no doubt it.  That tune control on the masterbuss which just cleans up 200-300 Hz clug is great.
 
The EQ's on the tracks, buses and masterbuss are all a little different.  It is a marvelous mastering tool.
I am not using built in dynamics so much in this current mastering job.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/15 20:22:32 (permalink)
I do have a few plugins that either won't scan or won't work at all, but most work just fine and to be honest I don't need much by the time I get to the Mixbus stage anyway. It's a great tool to have and the price is right. There are a lot of nice under the hood upgrades over Mixbus 2.5. I'm thrilled to be able to save projects on a different drive for example.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/17 23:37:19 (permalink)
From the Harrison website:
  • Experimental support for video timeline, video window, and audio+video exports
Experimental support? What does that mean?
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/19 16:43:54 (permalink)
I can't edit without Mixbus crashing. There are several bugs that need addressed to get this on par with Mixbus 2.5. I do believe it will be better in the long run, but it's going to take some time I'm afraid. The mixer view seems to work fine other than the plugins that won't work.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/19 17:02:47 (permalink)
I was attempting to master an album in MB3 but have given up too. It is just too unstable and there is a little too much crashing and stuff going on. Too much time wasted rebooting etc..
 
I am back in SOP V3 and that is like a million times better. It too has had a major upgrade but at least we have also had a 3.01 update too which I think has addressed lots of things.
 
Maybe MB was pushed out the door a little early perhaps. It might take at least the first and perhaps second update to get it right.  Even MB2 is not totally crash free either. Yes it is better for sure but I can get it to fall over too without much effort.
 
I am real happy with Klanghelm MJUC right now and seems to be giving me the Mixbus sound without all the angst.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/19 19:41:13 (permalink)
Yep, that is exactly what I was thinking. MJUC helps a ton getting that analog sound (love what it does for electric guitars that were recorded with a amp sim). I'm experimenting with Klanghelm's SDRR on buses and Sonar's tape sims...You can get there for sure, but I wish Mixbus 3 was ready now. I want to use it!!!
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/20 08:48:07 (permalink)
Jeff and Clint
I really appreciate your feedback on this. I am hopeful that Harrison will straighten things out, but I'm going to wait on them doing that.
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/20 09:41:12 (permalink)
Probably a wise move.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/20 20:34:13 (permalink)
I have completely uninstalled MB3 from my system as of today.  It is just painful. It freezes way too much and takes about 6 or 7 freezes and attempts and reboots even to create one simple session that actually works.  I know I said it seemd to settle down before and it was working Ok for a while but not now.  It does not like my RME sound card either.  It is not RME's fault either.  Everything else runs like a dream on my current system.
 
Be careful about buying this right now. I don't think they do refunds either so beware.
 
It is not ready and I mean not ready. They need to do some serious fixes on this before I would even consider it again.
 
I actually tried my 32 bit machine and tried to run MB2 inside that and it was also very unstable and just painful as well.  I have removed that from that computer as well.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/20 21:25:29 (permalink)
I'm having better luck than Jeff, but it has some issues that's for sure. I'm just going to do all of the heavy lifting in Sonar for now...the mixing section in MB3 seems to be working just fine here.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 10:17:04 (permalink)
I didn't install it, after downloading it. "Stalled and waiting for the tow truck", eh? $40 on hold while we see what they do about it. Maybe someday......
At least I didn't join their Plugged In membership....LOL
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 10:48:03 (permalink)
Based on what I read we all should just build a linux machine for this product (for the time being).
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 11:27:05 (permalink)
Hmmm, I'd have to become more of "a computer guy", and I'd rather get better at the musical aspects and then the tracking/mixing/producing patts.
   Where were you reading this stuff, Ed?
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 11:28:50 (permalink)
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   Where were you reading this stuff, Ed?
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Mixbus forum.
 
It seems that the Linux users are having no troubles. Take that with a grain of salt.
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 12:02:12 (permalink)
Thanks. I should've guessed, but the neighbor's cat woke me up in the middle of the night and I'm not sure the coffee is working! LOL
I don't know anyone using Linnux, so it always seems so "Shangri La", to me. Oh well.
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 12:31:28 (permalink)
I don't use Linux for music but I have built a few Linux boxes in my time.
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 12:39:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2015/07/23 13:29:48
Linux users have a different "trouble" threshold ;-)

just a sec

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 13:11:07 (permalink)
I'm not having as many problems as a lot of windows users. Most plugins work fine (Nectar 2, EZ Keys will not), it's mostly several little bugs here. I record, edit and mix in Sonar anyway...I like to import those to Mixbus 2.5 and 3 and mix them there and then compare and choose the best one. I typically stick with my Sonar mix, but it's fun to have toys.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 14:26:19 (permalink)
I suppose I can explore how it works for me, so thanks for the feedback, Clint.
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 15:52:39 (permalink)
It won't kill your PC to install it...It may not work well, but it shouldn't harm anything.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 16:10:42 (permalink)
Thanks! I feel like a kid being told there's no sharks in the pool! LOL
I haven't been avoiding installing it, as much as I am doing a lot of gardening and then editing, Melodyne and AD2 on a pile of old tracks. So Mixbus3 is down the list, a bit. Tomorrow I get my OctoPre Mkii and will have to yank rack pieces and cables to fit it in, but that will be big fun.
 
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/23 17:41:46 (permalink)
I have had crashes while trying to edit in Mixbus 3...so I would try just mixing in it for now. Then again, we all seem to be having different problems. Harrison wrote me and said I'm the first to report a crash during editing. Who knows...they have some work to do.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 10:08:17 (permalink)
There is now an 'Interim release' (Harrison Mixbus 3.0 1268). Registered users will see this in the Mixbus forum. The thread says there has been 400 changes so far.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 13:30:50 (permalink)
Thanks Clint
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 17:35:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2015/07/25 17:59:08
Installed the interim and mixbus seems to be running peppier than the original download. Was dead easy to install the new version. I did empty the blacklist vsts in the preferences/plugins and emptied the vst cache before I installed the new version. Downloaded the new version and installed. Rescan for the plugins and everything was there. Although, I'm still not getting Ozone to show up.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 18:00:50 (permalink)
Thanks Sid. Since I've not installed V3 yet, do I have to install it first or will the interim version do the trick?
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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 18:28:06 (permalink)
The interim version is all you need. Beware ,the installation is a booger bear so pay careful attention where to put your license files. I think it pretty much has been covered in this forum. I think you will really like Mixbus.

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Re: Mixbus 3 is coming online today (7/7/2015) 2015/07/25 18:30:03 (permalink)
BTW, you do have to uninstall any older versions of 3. Just info for anyone else reading.
 

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