Rain
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Need some work done on the Les Paul...
Most likely due to the climate change and maybe also the trip on a plane, my new Epi Les Paul seems to need some adjustments (intonation issues). And since I'm no guitar tech, especially in the case of a LP, I'd prefer to ask a pro. I've started shopping around on the internet and I'm also expecting some feedback from the musicians working for Cirque here in Vegas. But I wouldn't take any decision w/o also asking you guys before. Since it's the first time I actually have to pay someone to do that, I have no clue what a fair price should be. So far, I've found one guy who does the basic set-up for $85 (seems fair to me). Aslo, if you've lived here/been here and know of anyone that you'd recommend, please chime in. :)
post edited by Rain - 2012/10/28 14:45:09
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:08:02
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That's a lot of money for a basic set up even with a truss rod adjustment. I could maybe see it getting up that high if he was messing with the nut slots. Maybe.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:26:32
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Oh... the one thing that could bump the price up is if they are dressing the frets but this is a brand new guitar is it not? It shouldn't need a fret dressing. I have to get the nut replaced on my Yammie and get it set up and I'm expecting to pay $60-$80. I could however be exercising some wishful thinking there but minor repairs and maintenance shouldn't cost a lot. A basic set up for a pro (truss rod, action and intonation) would only take a half hour at most. Cheers.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:27:28
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May seem a strange question and you have probably done it already but you have fitted a new set of strings????
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:29:07
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Check out Ed Roman's Guitars in Las Vegas. Ed died awhile back, but he's always employed top notch techs. Randy
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:43:50
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Randy - thanks, I'll check them out. Wookie - Yup - I change strings every week or so on the LP. (The strat seems to need new strings every 2 or 3 days for some odd reason, no matter how much I use it or not). Actually, the LP is the one I'm most careful w/ when re-stringing - doing the one string at a time thing to make sure there's no sudden change in tension and all. But my guess is that taking a guitar from a place as humid as NY in the summer to somewhere as arid as Vegas can't be all that good for an instrument. Beepster - thanks for the heads up - I'll keep on shopping. :)
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 15:57:34
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Right on, man. Good luck. I understand wanting your baby to be taken care of by a pro. I've actually gotten a little more gutsy in regards to basic intonation and truss adjustments but my guitar isn't worth nearly as much. I set the truss rod a few months back and now I check and set the intonation every time I change my strings. Truss rod stuff is a little scary because if it snaps that's a major repair (the rule of thumb seems to be if you have to put more than a little pressure on the allen key stop and take it to a pro) however intonation isn't very complicated and the only thing to be really worried about is stripping the hardware. You may already know this stuff but here's a couple links I used to learn how to do it myself if you ever felt like trying it out on your other axes. Intonation: http://audio.tutsplus.com...etting-up-your-guitar/ http://users.powernet.co.uk/guitars/setup3.htm Truss rod: http://users.powernet.co.uk/guitars/setup5.htm Not the greatest tuts but they worked for me. Cheers.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 16:19:03
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 17:09:45
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Lots of cool info there, thanks guys. :) I still don't think I'd ever feel comfortable trying that stuff on the Les Paul. On the strat, maybe, someday. I've mistreated that guitar so much that I almost wonder if it isn't indestructible.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 17:24:19
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I find there is something very Zen and therapeutic performing general guitar maintenance. When I have more room I'm gonna try to set up a table specifically for working on my guits. Who knows. Maybe I could make some extra cash doing it someday. Cheers, Rain.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 17:37:24
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Beepster I find there is something very Zen and therapeutic performing general guitar maintenance. Yeh I really enjoy this kinda stuff. I use my Line6's tuner to set the intonation on my strats every now and then. Now that I have a LP Ill probably do it as well. Id LOVE to be into wood working like Spacy and get into like that but I dont have a garage at this point. Maybe someday. I cant imagine the joy of building from the ground up and finessing the finer points and then to hear it sing
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 17:42:57
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Yeah, man. I'd be all over that stuff if my body wasn't so mangled and I had the tools. As it is just my usual string replacement, polishing and intonation adjustments leave me pretty sore. A proper table and some blocks should help with that though. Right now I do it all on my bed or in my hands which isn't ideal. Cheers.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 18:20:56
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rsp@odyssey.net Check out Ed Roman's Guitars in Las Vegas. Ed died awhile back, but he's always employed top notch techs. Randy +1 to this! (But BE CAREFUL! Many have been known to go into dream ecstasy - or the poor house - after visiting Ed's place!  )
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 18:35:10
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Just looking at the strat upgrades page on Roman's web site and it suddenly feels like I could happily spend more on upgrading this guitar than what it initially cost me... :s But this would make for a totally killer strat.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 19:45:02
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digi2ns Id LOVE to be into wood working like Spacy and get into like that but I dont have a garage at this point. Maybe someday. I cant imagine the joy of building from the ground up and finessing the finer points and then to hear it sing Mike don't let that stop you. I haven't built one in my shop yet. Everything I've built was on my backyard patio. I don't even know how to act now that I have a nice place to do it. :)
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 20:07:59
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Is there a Guitar Center close to where you are? They should be able to fix you up for $45-60. They did a good job on my "new" Heritage Hollow.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 20:16:58
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I didn't know that - actually, my first plan/option was to ask the guys at GC next time I go there if they could recommend someone. One more reason to pay them a visit soon.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 20:30:48
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 20:34:27
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/28 21:03:37
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zungle Oh... the one thing that could bump the price up is if they are dressing the frets but this is a brand new guitar is it not? It shouldn't need a fret dressing. New guitars frequently almost always..IMO....could use a lite fret dress. Now a fret leveling...........a new axe shouldn't need that kind of work. Basic fret work seems covered where I looked. Though it's a darn fine guitar for the price, it could be optimized a bit. The reason I didn't want to have this done in NY is that I was actually expecting that our move to Vegas would require some adjustments anyway. Plus, I'm considering having the pick-ups replaced. Incidentally, this could probably end up in a different thread, but since we're here... Instinctively, I'd probably be shopping Seymour Duncans, but a friend also suggested Di Marzio Super Distortion as a potential choice for the type of rock n roll I play. Opinions?
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 04:13:42
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My top 2 choices for your guitar would be plain old Gibson Burstbuckers. The basic ones. My second choice would be Lollor Imperials. Both of these have a great PAF type sound. The Gibsons are my favourites because they're a bit microphonic and a little more open. The Lollors are smoother and a bit more focused. I don't like overwound, hi output, pickups so both of these are very traditional sounding and may not be your cup of tea.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 08:23:50
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Rain Wookie - Yup - I change strings every week or so on the LP. (The strat seems to need new strings every 2 or 3 days for some odd reason, no matter how much I use it or not). :) I'm sure curious to hear how they explain why you're strings have such a short life.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 08:58:32
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The tech at my local GC is actually pretty good at what he does and he does it a lot. Every time I'm in there he is working on a guitar. 45.00 is what they want here at my local GC. A local luthier here will do it for around 65.00,so that price seems a bit high to me as well. Basic truss rod and bridge intonation adjustments are a piece of cake. I always looked at it like I turned the rod, if I don't like it I'll turn the rod back,same goes for the bridge intonation. Anything I do can be changed or undone to my liking. Small 1/4 turns or less on the rod theres not much to worry about. If you really mucked it up the tech is still there charging what he always does ;). Overtightening a rod can break a neck, so small turns and if after a small turn nothing happens it might be something else.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 10:38:16
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 13:51:10
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I guess that, after years playing the strat as is, refusing to modify anything on it, I've finally entered a phase of wanting an instrument that is customized a bit - while remaining as traditional as possible. Thanks for the suggestions, guys, I'll check those out. As to why the strings die so quickly - remember earlier this summer I mentioned my sweat corroding the pick-ups on my new Les Paul in a matter of a few weeks? Acidity. What puzzled me is why they last longer on the LP. But, it makes sense - the strat having less natural sustain and resonance, it's bound to sound totally dead relatively quicker. It's like playing a plastic guitar w/ muffled strings.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 13:57:35
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Rain As to why the strings die so quickly - remember earlier this summer I mentioned my sweat corroding the pick-ups on my new Les Paul in a matter of a few weeks? Acidity. . I do remember but you stated that it didn't seem to matter how much you played it..that's why I thought you may think something is wrong with the Strat and that made me curious. And two or three days...?...man that's unheard of for me.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 14:00:29
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I've known dudes with the "acid hands". Do you wipe down the strings after each use? Maybe some talc on your hands before a session could help keep it under control. Not sure if that would be worse for the strings though.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 14:03:41
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I haven't changed the strings on my yammie for a couple months now... but that's because I'm cheap. They need replacing at this point though. Bought myself a ten pack about a year ago and I think I have seven or eight sets left. In my gigging days I'd play them until they were almost rotting off the guitar and if I broke one (which happened often) I'd "fix" them by hand. My fingers are like jewelers pliers now from years of doing it.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 14:06:13
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Beepster I've known dudes with the "acid hands". Do you wipe down the strings after each use? Maybe some talc on your hands before a session could help keep it under control. Not sure if that would be worse for the strings though. So did those dudes have strings that lasted for two or three days whether or not they played the guitar? Is it being said that the body chemistry is so acidic that the strings are being killed when they are installed on the guitar? Excuse me....I just can't seem to sort out what it is being said.
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Re:Need some work done on the Les Paul...
2012/10/29 14:09:15
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I do wash hands before and try to keep the strings clean, but nothing seems to work. Similarly - a couple of days after we bought the Jeep (brand new) we noticed that there were not stains but strange white-ish traces on the inside of the door on my side - around the handle. It's like I'm shedding layers of skin or something. Easily cleaned, but still, annoying. As someone who showers twice a day and constantly keeps his hands clean, that sucks. And that's w/ me having been in the car maybe 2 or 3 times - so having placed my hand there may 6 times to open/close the door. So you can imagine what happens to the strings when I play a guitar for a few hours. To be honest, when I put fresh strings on the strat, it's because I have plans for it and will most likely play it for at least 5 or 6 hours in a row. Don't know if that makes it more understandable... Anyway, I've modified my diet a bit, and cut back on coffee, but I'm still overly acid it seems. I guess I'll have to talk w/ a physiologist eventually. As a reminder - I've posted it before - but that's the kind of damage we're talking about. That's what my sweat did to the LP Junior bridge in a matter of few months.
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