Freddie:

In reply to your PM -- just to keep the documentation in the thread for future reference:

1) I have not disabled Windows Aero

2) No XP tweaks, of course. :)

3) Only tweak I did was put Win 7 power mode into "performance mode"

4) Audio cards are Lynx L22 (also have Saffire Pro 40 on there, but not using that for the testing)

5) Video card nVidia Quadro FX570 workstation card (works great, confident there are no issues with this)

6) Sonar 8.5.1 x64 only

Just FYI:

Hardware is performing fine, getting great performance from Sonar -- easy 32 sample latency performance with the Lynx and other hardware. Everything basic in Sonar tests out fine, so what we're dealing with is 99.5% an issue of plugin compatibility with some specific plugins and BitBridge. I have a customized version of JBridge that appears to be helping out quite a bit.

So where I think we need to go right now is to see if other people are running the latest Arturia plugins (with syncrosoft/e-licenser protection) and FabFilter. Other plugins may have issues too, but I'm just trying to solve the Arturia and FabFilter issues right now.

As for Dim Pro x64 issue, there are a number of suggestions I haven't followed up with yet since it's a lower priority for me.

Okay James! 

That's great! I thought your were down completely with your new computer!
syncrosoft/e-licenser protection and iLok protections key can be nasty make you get nasty issues sometimes! I think Noel mention something that Cakewalk has work together with iLok to make it work better with SONAR 8.5.1 x64bit Bitbridge so that's great. I can also say that changing to dedicated SERVER, in VST server-manager, can make a big different thru bitbridge.
Use the latest iLok and syncrosoft/e-licenser, driver.



SERVER
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1833594


Regards
Freddie

Okay I see, James! =)
 
 
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At least that make a different on both VISTA & XP platform!

 
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tyacko

eratu said...
Okay, now I'm having problems with Dimension Pro x64. It says multisamples not found when loading a patch. Incredibly annoying. Will uninstall and then reinstall. This should not be this much of a hassle for Dimension Pro.

I ran into the problem as well and I fixed this with the following link from the Cakewalk support site for Dimension Pro

http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx?ID=20080921

The thing I think fixed it was running Sonar as "Run As Administrator" to get Dimension Pro to work.  Please read the link and give it a try.  This will probably fix that problem for you.

Tom

 
 

About Dim Pro!

My DirectX 64bit DIM- PRO-version work best and what I use.
Its just some drum (Rex patch) -patches that make it crash? So as long you don't use the Drum section in DIM PRO it should work just fine. I don't know why it crash perhaps it miss some files or just my Dim Pro that crash? I have plenty of drum samples anyway. For Drums, I use basically Kontakt and Stylus RMX.


Regards
Freddie

tyacko


The thing I think fixed it was running Sonar as "Run As Administrator" to get Dimension Pro to work.  Please read the link and give it a try.  This will probably fix that problem for you.

Tom

Yes, I did read that (see previous post in this thread) and I agree, this is probably going to solve it for me too. Will try this as soon as I get some of these other issues sorted! Thanks, man, this is good confirmation that I should be able to get up and running with Dim Pro x64...

Before I continue, I want to say a big THANK YOU to the folks here in this forum who have contributed to this thread and helped behind the scenes. I'm not to the promised land yet, but I wouldn't have gotten this far without some spectacular support from some excellent people. Jose in particular is pure, solid gold, folks!

Sincerely, James

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Regards
Freddie

Freddie: Thanks, man, will check those out!

Dilinger: I did not disable UAC... haven't touched it. Will take a look at it.

As for Vista Compatibility mode, I ran a few that I knew required it, but did not think to run that for the FabFilter plugins installation. It doesn't make sense that would have anything to do with the plugins, though, since they run just fine on the same computer in Sonar 8.5.1 32-bit. It's clearly a BitBridge thing. But on the other hand, I guess it wouldn't hurt to reinstall them in Vista compat mode and see if something good happens. Jose was getting the plugins to run fine in x64 on Vista, so you might be on to something there...

I appreciate the suggestions!

SONARtist,

Eratu has been busy trying to get this issue resolved.  But so far we've been able to get both Cakewalk and FabFilter to communicate with each other and try to figure this one out.  For the record, these plugins work just fine under Bitbridge 2.0 in Vista x64.  So the problem seems to be with the OS change made when upgrading to Windows 7 x64.  FabFilter has told us that they will start working on 64 bit versions of their plugs, so I don't know if they'll still pursue fixing the 32 bit version or not.  I'm sure Eratu will keep you guys update.  Just be patient and know that he is doing all he can to make this happen.


Take care!

eratu


Oh, one other quick note:

I did change the AUD.INI file with the standard tweak for multi-core:

I set the ThreadSchedulingModel=2

Not sure if it did much, but I set it anyway. :)

I have experimented with the ThreadSchedulingModel=2 recomendation, but core 1 is always in more use no matter if it equals 1 or 2.
Is there supposed to be (officially) an imporvement, or is there another tweek that me work alongside?  

Thanks, Jose!

I did get the interface working with a setting, but I can't remember what it is right now -- will check the next time I load it up. Right now, I'm trying to get Dim Pro x64 working with the UAC trick. :) I'll report back if it works.

SONARtist: Have no fear, I'm still working on this... I've been in touch with Cakewalk and FabFilter trying to get the ball rolling. I've also been in touch with other plugin vendors to get the latest on their x64 efforts... fun. :)

By the way, I want to say a HUGE THANK YOU to Jose who has been unbelievably helpful and supportive with all this. Behind the scenes he's been helping sort out some of the tricky issues with plugins. He is one cool cat and and incredibly generous to boot. You would all do well to get to know the guy, and he is a credit to this forum and the Cakewalk community. I'll say it again, but I think Cakewalk should send him some free software for the time and help he's put in -- not just to me, but to others too! Thanks, man, you ROCK, my friend!

Jose: About the JBridge setting I mentioned before to force the GUI to show up:

when the JBridge'd plugin loads up (i.e.: FabFilter Twin2 in this case), click on the JBridge settings and then you select: "Force whole GUI refresh"

The problem with JBRidge 1.14 and FabFilter plugins is that the GUI is really, really slow, and it basically jumps around... making it very difficult to use if you manipulate the GUI (esp. for automation)... try loading Volcano 2 and then drag the filters around, you'll see what I mean. I've also tested with X-Ray off and it makes no difference.

Joao has sent me a custom JBridge that does not exhibit this jumping issue, but it is unknown if it breaks other plugins at this point.

eratu


Now, the only weird thing is that the VSTi version doesn't show in the menu -- just the DXi version. No matter, that's fine with me, but another little mystery...

Actually, I see both versions of Dimension Pro in my system, except the VSTi one is indeed the 32 bit version. 
 
The DXi is the native 64 bit version.  So you're right as usual :-)
 
 
 

I don't think UAC is a bad feature. It may not be implemented well, but at its core it adds a critical layer of protection to Windows that is needed in this always-connected world we live in. In my mind, it's a great concept, but as an evolutionary step, it's problematic, particularly for old software that was never designed for it. As developers get used to the UAC model of security, it's really a matter of writing your code to work with it. Pain in the @ss? Yes, for now. But in the end, I think it will do more good.

What's amazing to me is that we can get software written 6-7 years ago to work AT ALL in Windows 7, on modern hardware. That's an amazing accomplishment, really. Just take a look at Macs, and try to install something from 7 years ago. I think Windows users have it better than some people might think.

eratu >> Please support JBridge.
Sure will when I get to use it (i.e. when I upgrade my HW). Thx.

eratu >> I'm now going to move forward with other plugins and see what happens. Will update again.
Thanks again.  I'm wondering when you're going to install something I have :-)