HumbleNoise

FastBikerBoy


If you press "Ctrl-Alt V" when pasting that will up the "advanced" box. There is a checkbox there to "Align to measure". Is that what you meant?

That's pretty powerful FBB. Haven't gone there yet.

FastBikerBoy

HumbleNoise

FastBikerBoy


If you press "Ctrl-Alt V" when pasting that will up the "advanced" box. There is a checkbox there to "Align to measure". Is that what you meant?

That's pretty powerful FBB. Haven't gone there yet.

I wouldn't normally have mentioned that, I only like to discuss things with the developers..........

guitartrek


The other thing with Past Special, is that if you copy a clip from one track and then set the focus to another track, the "Paste To track" should default to the newly selected track (track with focus), but it always defaults to original track.  This is not intuitive.  Most other windows apps would default to pasting something to wherever the new focus is set.

For example if you copied something from one Word Document, and then set focus to a different Word Document, when you paste, it would paste into the new document at the current insertion point (wherever the cursor is).  It wouldn't default to pasting into the old document. 

I love Sonar, but some of these dialogue boxes have outdated non-intuitive defaults and are due for an overhaul.

HumbleNoise

guitartrek


The other thing with Past Special, is that if you copy a clip from one track and then set the focus to another track, the "Paste To track" should default to the newly selected track (track with focus), but it always defaults to original track.  This is not intuitive.  Most other windows apps would default to pasting something to wherever the new focus is set.

For example if you copied something from one Word Document, and then set focus to a different Word Document, when you paste, it would paste into the new document at the current insertion point (wherever the cursor is).  It wouldn't default to pasting into the old document. 

I love Sonar, but some of these dialogue boxes have outdated non-intuitive defaults and are due for an overhaul.

gt, did you check the video I posted? Seems pretty simple to me but of course YMMV.

VIDEO HERE
http://www.screencast.com/users/LHawes/folders/Jing/media/4cc11d78-05f4-470c-9938-676dcb86cac2

Agree though it's not very intuitive to have change track focus when pasting. It should IMO default to the clip and track selected. Easy to work with and perhaps powerful for multi editing tasks but I'm always forgetting to select the track for focus which to me defines unintuitive.

codamedia

thomasabarnes
One could argue that the track selection should simply change. Can anyone see any advantage to the track selection not changing when selecting a clip or clicking anywhere in a track? If there is a good reason for this behaviour then fair enough. If it has no advantage, Cakewalk should maybe change it in some future update.
 

I actually like the way it works now. Here's my work flow, and why it works for me:
 
When I track a lead vocal part, here is what I might do.
Track 1 = Take 1
Track 2 = Take 2
Track 3 = Take 3
Track 4 = Compiled Vocal (see where I am going with this)
 
At this point I highlight track 4, so that all "pastes" will go into this track. Now I grab 2 bars from track 1, copy/paste it drops into track 4 with no extra clicks on my part. Now grab 3 bars from track 3, copy/paste - bam, it's in track four. I don't have to keep selecting track 4 (my compile track) every time I need to paste. It simply goes to the track I initially selected. That's why it works - FOR ME!

bitflipper


Wow, three pages devoted to copy-and-paste but nobody picked up on the mention of V-Vocal in Zyra's list of stuff being worked on? I would have thought that might have generated more discussion.

BTW, all issues with copying clips can be easily avoided: actually play everything yourself instead of cheating by copying clips!

UnderTow
I am a little confused. How is the Now Time set? How do you make sure the takes you copy end up at the right point in time? (Basically at the same time as they were on the source track).

UnderTow

codamedia

thomasabarnes
One could argue that the track selection should simply change. Can anyone see any advantage to the track selection not changing when selecting a clip or clicking anywhere in a track? If there is a good reason for this behaviour then fair enough. If it has no advantage, Cakewalk should maybe change it in some future update.

I actually like the way it works now. Here's my work flow, and why it works for me:

When I track a lead vocal part, here is what I might do.
Track 1 = Take 1
Track 2 = Take 2
Track 3 = Take 3
Track 4 = Compiled Vocal (see where I am going with this)

At this point I highlight track 4, so that all "pastes" will go into this track. Now I grab 2 bars from track 1, copy/paste it drops into track 4 with no extra clicks on my part. Now grab 3 bars from track 3, copy/paste - bam, it's in track four. I don't have to keep selecting track 4 (my compile track) every time I need to paste. It simply goes to the track I initially selected. That's why it works - FOR ME!

I am a little confused. How is the Now Time set? How do you make sure the takes you copy end up at the right point in time? (Basically at the same time as they were on the source track).

UnderTow

codamedia

UnderTow

 

I am a little confused. How is the Now Time set? How do you make sure the takes you copy end up at the right point in time? (Basically at the same time as they were on the source track).

UnderTow

Yes - missed a step didn't I - LOL! Once I select (with the smart tool) the highlighted area is darkened. I do one click at the front of that spot to set the now time between the Cut/Paste (it's almost always a snap point). In theory I see where you are going with this. Why not set the now time in the new track (with the new track auto selecting) :) I just never really noticed any of this before, I just worked with it. In that case, there would be no difference in work flow, so I can see your point.

codamedia


Yes - missed a step didn't I - LOL! Once I select (with the smart tool) the highlighted area is darkened. I do one click at the front of that spot to set the now time between the Cut/Paste (it's almost always a snap point). In theory I see where you are going with this. Why not set the now time in the new track (with the new track auto selecting) :) I just never really noticed any of this before, I just worked with it. In that case, there would be no difference in work flow, so I can see your point.

UnderTow

10Ten


I've been through this many times an other users have confirmed it. When you become a Sonar developer, I'll bother going through it again with you.

Oh come on 10Ten. If you don't want to discuss it or provide a link to your previous explanation, don't mention it on the forum, send an email to the Sonar developers.

CTRL-Drag works for me...

UnderTow