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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/30 00:00:37 (permalink)
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This brand new patched version of Manchester that has just been released in the last few hours - what has changed?

http://www.cakewalk.com/S...16-Manchester-Update-1


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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/30 01:49:44 (permalink)
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This brand new patched version of Manchester that has just been released in the last few hours - what has changed?

http://www.cakewalk.com/S...16-Manchester-Update-1


This is what I was waiting for. :-)

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/30 06:01:02 (permalink)
As far as I understood, people who own a higher version of Melodyne will lose it (as a plugin) if they update to SONAR's Melodyne 4 Essential. That's not a good thing.
What would be fair and logical would be the possibility to own different versions of Melodyne as plugins. In that case, people would have the choice to use for any SONAR audio track:
- the higher version of Melodyne 3 (for example Editor) that they bought before, with the advanced functions but without the 2016 engine.
- Melodyne 4 Essential, without the advanced functions but with the new engine.
 
Considering this, I am not sure I am interested anymore to update to Melodyne Assistant or Editor for the moment.

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/30 08:12:02 (permalink)
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As far as I understood, people who own a higher version of Melodyne will lose it (as a plugin) if they update to SONAR's Melodyne 4 Essential. That's not a good thing.
What would be fair and logical would be the possibility to own different versions of Melodyne as plugins. In that case, people would have the choice to use for any SONAR audio track:
- the higher version of Melodyne 3 (for example Editor) that they bought before, with the advanced functions but without the 2016 engine.
- Melodyne 4 Essential, without the advanced functions but with the new engine.
 
Considering this, I am not sure I am interested anymore to update to Melodyne Assistant or Editor for the moment.




You would have to complain to Celemony about this. They only allow a single version to be installed. That is their decision. If you paid to upgrade Essential 2 to Editor or Studio. you'll need to pay Celemony to upgrade to version 4 of the same thing.
 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/31 10:29:17 (permalink)
Yes, I know how that works, but there is no technical reason for us not to be allowed to keep 2 versions of the same software. For example, I have several versions of Kontakt Player (4, 5, even maybe the very old 2...) that are installed in my computer.
 
And this certainly is a Celemony commercial choice, and not Cakewalk's fault.

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/31 22:04:21 (permalink)
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PinkCigar
This brand new patched version of Manchester that has just been released in the last few hours - what has changed?

http://www.cakewalk.com/S...16-Manchester-Update-1


This is what I was waiting for. :-)




 
Me too!!
 
As from what I can see/tell/gather from correspondence with Celemony, when you reg the first serial # of Essential, that's your number no matter how many copies you get from your purchase of Sonar. Then if you upgrade that upgrade is it now, IOW, you won't be able to go back to Essential.
 
Every time I get a new Sonar with Essential and I register it, it bumps me up to Editor. I don't have a choice from what I can see.
 
I have a Surface Pro that I would like to run Essential on, and have Editor run on my other two machines. But to do that, I would have to de-authorize one of my other machines. 
 
At first I was a little upset about it, but the more I thought about it, it made sense. I ain't holding nothing against Celemony and certainly not against CW. I mean CW gave me a free Essential, and a discounted upgrade to Editor. And I got a discounted price to Editor 4!! I ain't ****ing.
post edited by Grem - 2016/01/31 22:29:18

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/01/31 23:29:59 (permalink)
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Yes, I know how that works, but there is no technical reason for us not to be allowed to keep 2 versions of the same software.


Studio 2 allows audio to midi to contain pitchbend info, Studio 4 does not. I never used Studio 2, but if that had become part of my workflow I'd be pissed at seeing it go, whereas I'm just disappointed.
 

 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 05:41:15 (permalink)
I'm with you Beepster!
I download manually since my first CCC experience didn't go so great, and a bit of a control freak with choosing what I install where.
But it does get a bit tedious to match up mousing over links to see what the file name is vs what I already have downloaded.

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 11:32:33 (permalink)
Rob from Sydney
 
I'm with you Beepster!
I download manually since my first CCC experience didn't go so great, and a bit of a control freak with choosing what I install where.
But it does get a bit tedious to match up mousing over links to see what the file name is vs what I already have downloaded.




C3 has come a long way since it first came out. Might want to give it a second chance. ;)
 

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 19:30:32 (permalink)
Kamikaze,
Where did you see that pitchbend has been removed?
 

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 20:37:29 (permalink)
As it had been removed from the comparison chart, and nothing was on their help file, I emailed them. The reply was simply
"Melodyne studio 4 does not offer this feature. "
 
 

 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 22:48:44 (permalink)
Thanks Kamikaze.
I am PO'ed since I convert a lot of guitar stuff.

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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/01 23:05:20 (permalink)
yeah it's a step in the wrong direction for me, I would have linked to see them take it further. I can see with their new harmonic stuff, that they would be able to track the volume and hamonic changes and send that stufff too. Making it possible to play a wind instrument such as a sax, convert it, and have the midi play something like Samplemodelling wind or brass controlling  pitchbend and expression, so that no further editing would be involved. Then changing the changing just the notes played in PRV to play harmonies to the original recording.
 
I never used Studio 2, so I don't know how successful pitch bend was, but if it was working, I can't fathom why you'd remove the function. Should have been enhanced IMO.
 

 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/02 01:11:36 (permalink)
Grem
 
C3 has come a long way since it first came out. Might want to give it a second chance. ;)
 



It has improved however its handling of dropped internet connection still results in complete loss of the data downloaded so far and has to start over.
 
For most people with a fast and stable internet this is fine. For the rest of us its a waste of time and bandwidth. For this reason I download direct from my account at the store using Firefox. If the download fails I can restart the download right where it left off.
 
Once the download is complete I copy it into the folder that CCC expects it to be in then use CCC to validate, install and activate.
 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/02 02:22:05 (permalink)
Tom we share the same internet (and weather, man it was cold last week) I believe, and I've not had any issues with CCC. I wouldn't rule it out.

 
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Re: Now available: SONAR Manchester 2016/02/02 11:28:10 (permalink)
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Grem
 
C3 has come a long way since it first came out. Might want to give it a second chance. ;)
 



It has improved however its handling of dropped internet connection still results in complete loss of the data downloaded so far and has to start over.
 
For most people with a fast and stable internet this is fine. For the rest of us its a waste of time and bandwidth. For this reason I download direct from my account at the store using Firefox. If the download fails I can restart the download right where it left off.
 
Once the download is complete I copy it into the folder that CCC expects it to be in then use CCC to validate, install and activate.
 
Cheers


Also one can use DAP [Download Accelerator Plus]. I use that and has resume option.
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