OK SERIOUSLY CAKEWALK. FIX YOUR FORUM .

Havnt received any emails regarding updates to threads or posts either - v odd.. 

I haven't been on this forum for a while and wondered what you were all talking about. This was the first thread I read and then I clicked on the next one down the list and the little circle just sat there. How long has this been going on?

That was helpful.

I admit I know absolutely nothing about forum software.
I know I'm not the only one who has issues with it either.
I could see if it was a browser conflict like the one with FireFox but I've seen complaints from all browser users.
I happen to use Chrome and from what I've read is the best browser to use here,

If so many people are having issues with all browsers them maybe Cake should try a different provider.
That's all I'm pretty much saying.

Mike 

I wonder how long I will be a new member. As you can see, I joined this forum in 2008! Perhaps I haven't helped out enough?

calatk

I wonder how long I will be a new member. As you can see, I joined this forum in 2008! Perhaps I haven't helped out enough?

It's based on quantity, not quality. :) If it was based on quality, there's a few members here that have over 20,000 posts that would still be in the 'New Member' category.

A couple of forum members contacted the people that wrote this forum software and they said there is a free patch to make it work with current browsers but Cakewalk made alterations to the software and the patch won't work.

Nobody's fault really, just one of those things.

it's the only forum I have "issue" with regarding it's usability.. and it makes me post far less


either bin this / get better forum software.. OR upgrade.. from another thread, apparently this isn't the latest version.. and if they are trying to "milk" the upgrade.. go elsewhere.

it looks rather unprofessional compared to rivals whose stuff I also use (who don't have probs with spammers etc)

not really.. we have no control over spammers for a start. I'm sure you wouldn't buy a car you can't only turn right in ..

it over complicated things having something that chucks a hissy with certain browsers... hardly a good first impression for new visitors also.. IE9 .. ah other browsers are available..

   

Stone House Studios

A couple of forum members contacted the people that wrote this forum software and they said there is a free patch to make it work with current browsers but Cakewalk made alterations to the software and the patch won't work. Nobody's fault really, just one of those things.

WOW!  Using IE 9 I can call this BS and all of my spacing, paragraphs, and punctuation work as prescribed.  Sometimes I think you folks should use what is known and supposed to work instead of demanding that things work in your little worlds!
 
Brian

But IE9 does not work unless you have the zoom set to 100%.

So, yeah, there is a work around, but the reason people don't like that work around is because they can't see the screen so well with it at 100%. And the whole reason people have the option to change that zoom settings is because people have a hard time seeing the small print on these new flat screen monitors that force you to use their native resolution.

But IE9 does not work unless you have the zoom set to 100%.

 
I'm at 125% now. Please elaborate.
 
Brian

Not being argumentative, and I agree with you 100% that there are work arounds.

I'm still using FF 3.6 and I don't mind. I just fired up IE9 to show you what it does.

Stone House Studios

Seriously  . . .  I can see the difference in your screen shots - but I can't tell what your point is!
 
125% is bigger and clearer.  Surprise!
 
Perhaps I don't understand what it is you think is not happening?
 
Brian

If you can see what the differences are, then you already know what the point is and can see what's 'not' happening.

It's not a big deal ... if you're happy with IE9 then that's fantastic ... all I'm trying to do is show you that it does not work properly on some systems, what goes wrong when it doesn't work, and why people don't like it for surfing this forum.

I use Firefox 3.6 and I'm satisfied with that. I'd prefer to use the latest version of Firefox for security reasons, but honestly, Amazon, Hotmail, and Cakewalk are about the only sites I go to. I'm not a heavy net user although I'm here a lot while I'm on my DAW.

Every function of this forum works as intended with Firefox 3.6. Text formatting (including paragraphing, font size, font color, smileys), replying to messages, spell correction ... all work 100% in Firefox 3.6 at any zoom setting.

It would be exciting to see new forum software ... but I'd rather they put that money in to Sonar development to be honest.

Stone House Studios
 
Amen!  Goodnight!
 
Brian

You have a good night too.
 
Bub

Stone House Studios

not really.. we have no control over spammers for a start. I'm sure you wouldn't buy a car you can't only turn right in .. it over complicated things having something that chucks a hissy with certain browsers... hardly a good first impression for new visitors also.. IE9 .. ah other browsers are available..

 
Are you (or me) in charge of spammers?  I don't know what your point is here.
 
Ummm  the car reference  . . .. .
 
As for the rest . . .  . all I'm saying is that IE works here.  If you are using something other than what has become the standard - - - - - - -  why?
 
Brian

First let me say that as a way to earn money, I've been a system-level programmer for the past 30+ years.

<rant>The whole problem is that IE is not the standard.  IE is full of  idiosyncrasies (read bugs & arrogance) and other browser providers have not too recently decided to stop helping IE to be believed as some kind of standard by dropping support for those idiosyncrasies (e.g. Non-Standard-a-la-W3C IE specific javascript function calls and/or variables).   This was W3's way of trying to force MS to clean up their code to adhere to the standard of which they all agreed.

This forum is ASP.NET based which, surprise-surprise, supports IE.  It was/is expected that other browsers who wish to access an ASP.NET web site should adhere to MS's de-facto standards.  An old joke that brings home MS's mentality:
      Q: How many microsoft programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
      A: None.  They just declare darkness the standard.

To make matters worse, MS is modifying IE to the point they had to add a "Compatibility" button for it to function with previous versions of their own ASP.NET garbage.

MS is no longer the standard.  As a matter of fact MS, IMHO (and many other folks as well), is and has been creating such a level of substandard software.  (e.g. Microsoft Blames PC Makers For Windows Failure, 'Gorilla Arm' Will Keep Touch Screens From Taking Over and Microsoft Fails Antivirus Certification Test (Again), Challenges the Results) that many people are just fed up and very hungry for something (preferably Unix based) to fill the void.

Personally, I believe that MS and their substandard development system are in many cases, the cause for many-a-bug in Sonar and related plug-ins.  I tried using MS's Library routines for popping up a simple "browse for a file" dialog box that caused my program to General-Protection-Fault due to a missing, undocumented-yet-required parameter.

A library function provided to developers should expect to get bad parameters and provide an error code to that effect rather than just GPF and should not behave in a way other than what is documented.

Finally, with all due respect to the folks at ASP Playground, I suspect that the forum had been modified to accommodate bug-fixes that were needed at the time Cakewalk implemented the software to support other browsers which most ASP guys feel if you are not using IE you are not worth supporting.</rant>


Sorry for the rant, but I've about had my fill with MS and am patiently waiting with baited breath for Roland/Cakewalk to provide Sonar or Sonar-like software for another more solid and stable platform such as OSX (basically FreeBSD in Mac clothing) or Linux.  Though most audio developers are at the mercy of the hardware manufacturers and the platforms on which they provide stable drivers.

Best,
guitardood

P.S. This somewhat properly formatted post was done through Safari on OSX.

I see some people saying I should use the right browser to access this forum. That's just plain rubbish! If ALL OTHER FORUMS just behave like they should on my browser, then the problem is NOT with my browser (Firefox) but absolutely and without any doubt with the forum software itself. And NO I cannot use IE9, because my "non-music" system is Linux (Debian 6) and I wont switch to Windows just to reead and post on this forum. And also - NO I wont use a ancient old version of Firefox, because my system is up-to-date and I want to keep it that way. And NO I do not want a separate browser only and solely to visit this forum. This forum should just work - like all other forums do! It is not the responsibility for the visitor, but for the forum maintainer to keep the forum usable. Sorry for ranting, but every time I want to react I realize I am in the wrong browser, have to copy the page URL, log in again etc.... and that's extremely annoying. I notice I am starting to avoid coming here, and I guess I am not the only one.