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2013/12/04 16:11:18 (permalink)

Pardon my Cynicism...ST3

Latest on SampleTank 3...
 
50 days, apparently, until release/NAMM?
 
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7116&p=37622#p37622

Of course, the big news...ST 3 will have round robin....???

Am I confused or does that not seem like big news, but more like "trying to catch up?"

Sorry, I'm a cynic by nature...


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 16:22:12 (permalink)
ST3 will have round robin?!?
That's ground-breaking news!!!


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 16:26:40 (permalink)
What is Round Robin? Sorry for the dumb question.
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 16:32:43 (permalink)
It must be a tournament...They will have to play every team once.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 16:37:04 (permalink)
has to do with "authentic" reproduction of an instrument sound when you retrigger/rekey  notes
 
BTW KVR is wetting all over themselves in the instrument forum about the release
post edited by musicman100 - 2013/12/04 16:38:05

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 16:41:20 (permalink)
Okay, I remember now. I knew it sounded familiar. Thanks musicman.
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 17:05:10 (permalink)
It looks to me like they won't release ST3 until January. The 31st is a Tuesday......

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 17:22:58 (permalink)
Round robin may work with the New ST3 sounds but won't mean anything for the existing sounds. Readable gui, 64 bit native, and Cost is the deciding factor for me. My guess is that it will be shown at NAMM but won't be available till later...

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 17:28:39 (permalink)
That's pretty rich.  Thanks for the chuckle cclarry, ol pal. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 17:51:22 (permalink)
No one "cares", yet everyone keeps talking about it....

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:01:28 (permalink)
People tend to talk about disasters...

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:06:40 (permalink)
Lol
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:08:13 (permalink)
 I guess that the cross you have to bear when you are in a forum that tolerates free and open discussion.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:12:40 (permalink)
All kidding aside, it has to be better than its almost decade old predecessor. It would be hard not to. I wouldn't mind being able to play my old sounds. That's about it. Going forward, I'd rather invest in Kontakt which has been continually improved and supported and Halion.
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:21:11 (permalink)
Let's face it Obi, there's a hell of a lot of ground ST3 needs to make up...rubbish GUI and middle-of-the-road sounds (not helped by bad presets) against almost constant improvement by the competition..I mean even Dim Pro has been updated FFS!

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:21:28 (permalink)
IK Obi
No one "cares", yet everyone keeps talking about it....


It's called sarcasm and cynicism...
Everyone slows down and looks when they see a wreck in the road...
post edited by gustabo - 2013/12/04 18:22:50


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 18:37:04 (permalink)
Actually Round Robin was a girl in my junior high. She was pretty, funny and "tons of fun". She set a fairly high bar for ST3 to beat.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 19:24:31 (permalink)
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People tend to talk about disasters...



Excuse my while I pick up my spleen....     


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 19:59:46 (permalink)
I like Obi's simplistic view of life. 
 
Refreshing.
 
Will iST3 run as VST in the Scratch iPatch errrrm iPad app?
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 20:04:47 (permalink)
Only software pirates wear iPatches.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 20:06:19 (permalink)
i i sir.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 20:18:55 (permalink)
lets see what nice discount upgrade path they offer :)
 
and then I'll wait a few months for it to be highly discounted... like other IK things have been in the past, not ages after release ;-)
 
 
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 22:20:27 (permalink)
I seriously hope IK delivers an incredible product.  They NEED to...
after all the iCrap I've given them...it would just be beginning if ST3 were 
a dud.....IJS....

Fog, it better be like their iApps...$9.99 or less....because that's what it's going to take to sell it.

With all the far better supported products out there....they better GIVE IT AWAY in hopes of 
getting some of those customers back..

We'll see how strong willed everyone is after it comes out...because I know (myself included) how weak
those of us with PCD are...


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 23:36:31 (permalink)
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IK Obi
No one "cares", yet everyone keeps talking about it....


It's called sarcasm and cynicism...
Everyone slows down and looks when they see a wreck in the road...


Not me - I don't.



 
 
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/04 23:40:03 (permalink)
I'm getting an iHeadache.

Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
 
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/05 10:06:21 (permalink)
I will just wait till st3 is offered at some ridiculous 3 for 1 90 percent off offer down the road
 
...assuming it doesn't fly out the door when its released ...
 
 
re round robin   Kontakt been doing that with its powerful Skripting software for a while even 3rd parties incorporate round robin
 
 
 


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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/05 10:30:46 (permalink)
any "press" is "good press" as long as they speel (sic) your name right!
 
look at it this way Obi, at least they (we) ain't kicking your a$$ on the iKey
 
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/05 11:20:35 (permalink)
 
 
 
 
 You have to first catch up before you can pull ahead. Catching up is first.
 
 Not many players out there  in this particular game. FWIW Sampletank seems to come prepackaged with a lot more material than the factory version of Kontakt minus third party samples. Kontakt won't run on an iPad but I suspect ST3 will. The basic instruments are all there in both. The sound quality seems negligible depending on the sounds we are comparing. Hopefully the sounds will also have improved, not that they were bad before. The big advantage is larger memory capability in 64bit. More sounds larger projects before a hiccup might just put it close to Kontakt, really close.

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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/05 11:26:15 (permalink)
But then I have to learn a new product. And probably would have to pay for the privilege since all I REALLY cared about was 64-bit. Seriously, I couldn't care less about Round Robin if the sound is what I am looking for. It only irks me that I'll have to pay (a VERY strong possibility) to get 64-bit and Obi will tell me that I'm getting so much more for my $.
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Re: Pardon my Cynicism...ST3 2013/12/05 16:02:43 (permalink)
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But then I have to learn a new product. And probably would have to pay for the privilege since all I REALLY cared about was 64-bit. Seriously, I couldn't care less about Round Robin if the sound is what I am looking for. It only irks me that I'll have to pay (a VERY strong possibility) to get 64-bit and Obi will tell me that I'm getting so much more for my $.



here Bapu..I have a nice shiny penny for you....

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 You have to first catch up before you can pull ahead. Catching up is first.
 
 Not many players out there  in this particular game. FWIW Sampletank seems to come prepackaged with a lot more material than the factory version of Kontakt minus third party samples. Kontakt won't run on an iPad but I suspect ST3 will. The basic instruments are all there in both. The sound quality seems negligible depending on the sounds we are comparing. Hopefully the sounds will also have improved, not that they were bad before. The big advantage is larger memory capability in 64bit. More sounds larger projects before a hiccup might just put it close to Kontakt, really close.



Star...not to be pedantic...but...

Kontakt
Independence
Alchemy
Aria
Mach 5
Dimension Pro

Shoud I go on?  Seriously...not many players in the game? And all of the above have had updates and upgrades
far more often the ST could possibly dream of...and have been 64 bit for a bit...

ST for iOS has been out for a while...and it will surely get an update as soon as ST 3 is released..
They update the iCrap every other week or so....while the PC stuff gets blown off regularly in it's favor.

And Kontakt has FAR FAR FAR MORE available sounds, both Native and 3rd Party...probably then
ANY sampler out there...add in the Infinity Player and the number AGAIN goes up...


I wholeheartedly beg to differ...


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