FWIW you can purchase QuickTime Pro from Apple for about $20 and then use it to convert .MOV files to AVI, MPEG, or whatever. I've done it and it works. Until Apple releases a 64-bit SDK for QuickTime for Windows then that's really the best you can do.

CW said it is Apple's responsibility to come up with a 64 bit codec. 

@Wynnsong - Whats wrong with Sony Vegas?  I was considering purchasing that next for converting videos and chopping them up in smaller pieces to work with.  Now you have me worried

Be careful!  The problem is in Quicktime's yard.  Quicktime has a known bug, so in order to have Vegas do quicktime, you need to downgrade your quicktime to 7.62.  This means you can't use iTunes on your computer.

I have vegas 8, and tried the demos of  vegas 9 and 10 without success in QT conversion.

stevenpanter

I don't know if this would help or is even possible, but just an idea that came to me while reading this thread. What about rewiring something like Reaper to Sonar, using Reaper for video and Sonar for everything else.

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Would work 32-bit, but there is no 64-bit Rewire library (remind you of anything?) so couldn't be done with with 64-bit Sonar.

Good point. ;___; I suppose we will have to wait a couple of years for everything to catch up.

OT: I just noticed your signature. What vocaloid software do you use?

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BTW - Seth, I tried all that, and it works fine in 8.5.3 32-bit, but does NOT work well in 8.5.3 64-bit - at ALL.

Maybe something has changed?

Perhaps X1 is somehow better at handling more codecs?

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I use a free video converter and swap all QT movies to WMV...import into Sonar 64 bit off I go.  I use Vegas for chopping up video if needed.  Apple disappoints me with the 64 bit subject or lack there of.

As far as codecs (this has been discussed in several threads) the only one which works for my on a regular basis in WMV. 

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Thank you guys, so much!

I had tried AVS Video, and it didn't work, so I'm curious to try some of the others here.

Very cool!

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I'm a little curious about the notion that there is some sort of Quicktime 64bit format.

Usually, Video barely makes it past 12 bits.


I suspect, but am also asking; Isn't it really the case that Quicktime, the 64 bit application, produces videos in a codec that is not available for 64 bit windows.

In other words it's not the 64bit QuickTime that is the problem... it's the codec... the codec isn't cross platform or open to other players.


I'm just pointing that out because I am reading a thread that has been populated by true working professionals and no one seems comfortable identifying the codec nor does anyone seem eager to acknowledge the fact that the confusion is created by a confusion about codecs.

The best way to achieve clarity while discussing the easiest work around will require that everyone start speaking about codecs with some familiarity. Each user will need to acquire some knowledge about how they are specifically interacting with codecs.


The problems start when a video editing professional (who rarely seems to know much about codecs either) hands a musician a video with a codec that the musician can't seem to play. The the musician seems to know that embarrassing the video editor by questioning their choice of codec isn't good for business.

The best solution is too learn all about codecs and to learn how to quickly react to any situation.


I do understand the need for quick turn around times and the undesirability of having to convert to another codec... but that is a situation forced upon us by what ever relationship we have with the video house... if the video house really cared... they would export the video in something that everyone could play. If turn around time when working with a Mac centric house is paramount... you are probably going to want to get a Mac... because nothing will be settling down in the codec wars for another decade or so.


very best regards,
mike

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Any progress since last October :) ....It seems things haven't changed much, but perhaps there are some new reliable workarounds for converting or wrapping brand new format Avid and FC-based QT movies - so I can play them in Sonar 8.5 or X1 64-bit?

I'm just wondering if we have more solid workarounds - or if everyone is just converting/wrapping QT files in Vegas, Premiere, Final Cut, Quicktime Pro, some Avid Product, or other universal converter/wrapper - for Sonar video import.

I'm downloading Avid Studio now to try out the converter. Between this and the new version of Quicktime Pro (if there is one), I'm wondering if I'll be covered. But seeing as Avid and FC seem to create the problem in the first place, hmmmmm....

If AVid Studio works, it certainly will be $500 cheaper than buying Vegas just to convert 30 second videos!  

OTOH, I don't know if Avid is planing on phasing out their low end video sw products?        

Thanks, as always, guys! 

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Jimbo 88


Still using Vegas and not sure why you worry about scoring with QT 64 bit.  It is just asking for trouble.  THe newer QT files are giving my machines fits just playing them without X1.

Vegas comes in different versions.  I think $39 is the cheapest.  The version I use was about $100,  but that was years ago.  I would not spend much money just to convert videos.  If you are scoring to picture a lot you will do yourself a big favor and have something like Vegas.  Just today I scored the opening sequence to a video where the client sent me a :20 graphic that will be added in.  I popped everything into Vegas, placed the graphic and generated a Mpeg-1.  I had a new music  sample for my client and looked like I know what I'm doing (very questionable!) within hours without complaining that I could not place the graphic. 

Hey Thanks, Jimbo.


So, you downsample the new files in Vegas to older Qt format for Sonar?


Cheers!


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Thanks, man!

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I don't like to think of leaving Sonar to score to picture - because Sonar is such a great platform for handling boatloads of .vst instruments and effects, and I love all the native tools and GUI. Plus, I've always loved Sonar because it's just so easy to use. 

AFAICT, there's really not another DAW that will outperform on a production level this easily. I'm simply not into tying myself into Logic knots - I've been down that road before.

I wonder if I could sync another machine to my DAW to play movies in a different app, somehow. Hmmmmm....

I really wish Apple weren't such greedy bastards.

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I use WinFF to convert to AVS for import. Then I export the audio from Sonar and paste the new audio back with the original .mov movie using Quicktime pro. WinFF is free. Quicktime pro is $20.

Hey Jimbo, quick question.
I'm totally with you on the "get a file, drop it into Vegas, get an MPG1 or AVI, work with sonar", but when you're done with the music files and your clients ask you for a copy of the video clip with embedded compositions in .mov (because they work on Apple machines), do you:

- generate a video file within Sonar and convert that too with vegas back to mov
- output the audio only from sonar and load the track into vegal to line it up with the movie

You might have made me realise that I've been wasting a lot of time with sonar's export function!

SUPER is an alround program/

It takes an audio inpout and Visiop inpout and enables you to select the container be it wmv or mov or whatever you want.

You can grab a video file and strip the audio and video out into formats of your choice.

You can change audio sample rates and video formats, screen size and resolutions all in one intuitive interface.

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Lots of great ideas here, guys.

MUCH appreciated.

I'm trying some, and we'll see what works.

Thanks a ton!

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