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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 15:24:57
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1) why the thread mention "December"? If someone stop the membership in December, than it was real "subscription" since it is less then 12 month membership. And so he/she can no longer use Sonar 2015.
2) till that is really time for the new period (still 2 months!), I am sure we see "Whats next".
3) writing "$150 a year is a bargain" on International forum is incorrect. For someone $50k car is a bargain, for other $200 for an audio interface is too expensive.
I mentioned December because my subscription was purchase on Christmas Day
Are you sure it is counted from that day? If I remember correctly, there was no membership before new Sonar was released and that has happened a bit later...
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 15:33:20
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azslow3
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1) why the thread mention "December"? If someone stop the membership in December, than it was real "subscription" since it is less then 12 month membership. And so he/she can no longer use Sonar 2015.
2) till that is really time for the new period (still 2 months!), I am sure we see "Whats next".
3) writing "$150 a year is a bargain" on International forum is incorrect. For someone $50k car is a bargain, for other $200 for an audio interface is too expensive.
I mentioned December because my subscription was purchase on Christmas Day
Are you sure it is counted from that day? If I remember correctly, there was no membership before new Sonar was released and that has happened a bit later...
Ok I need to check that because I was under the impression it was a 12 month subscription. Where would I go exactly to verify that?
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 15:41:58
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 19:26:24
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Great points but X3 was solid and I had no complaints , by far my favorite features in platinum are quad curve with the frequency being visible, vocal sync and comping because I record drums live. If they never made another enhancement what we have now is more than efficient in my opinion. I guess the real question how much better can it be? Allowing a Mac version maybe? If we had a version for Mac I think we can get in the conversation with ProTools because of the solid performance Mac machines provides
I'd rather seen Windows improve to the point where people are saying, "Mac? What's the point?" lol
I know MS is making some big investments in their audio stack in Windows 10, so maybe we'll see that reflected in Sonar pretty soon, yeah? MS is saying they're already getting pretty much ASIO performance out of WDM drivers now and are coming up and with other fixes and changes in the audio architecture so I am hopeful.
The point is, I'd rather Cakewalk focus its resources on music production functionality and not on getting everything to work on competing OS's.
Valid points again if MS could improve Windows to equal Mac performance that would be sweet. I hope they are reading this thread for those enhancements
I guess you guys don't pay much attention to the Mac world. I got emails from developers saying "Do Not Upgrade to El Capitan or whatever it's called. Now you will get a taste of the headaches Mac users go through with the evolving W10. MS and Apple are really good at implementing each others' bad ideas.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 19:54:42
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I'll probably hold out until cake really drills down and focuses into finishing existing functionality.
I support this. The last two updates I've 'paid' for have introduced issues where I'm unable to use these updates. Whilst it's fortunate that I am able to roll back to a version which allows me to continue making music reliably, the bugs introduced are creating loss of production time in trying to solve issues and are not giving me the benefit of what I'm supposed to be paying for. I'm pretty happy with all the current features and really don't need additional bonuses. I just want a robust and reliable piece of music software and if updates enhance this further, then cool but not at the cost of more bugs.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 19:57:12
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/12/01 20:52:50
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are: Command Center FX Stacking Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows Expandable Send Pattern Tool 16 Virtual Custom Amps Addictive Drums 2 "Stunning" New FX Chains Mix Recall The New Control Bar REmatrix Solo VocalSync Craig Anderton VoxTools Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor” Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro Onscreen Virtual Controller Pedalboard FX Chains Kickmaster FX Chain Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo Kick Start Pack SizzleBus Drum Replacer Strum Session 2 Deflate Gate EDM Percussion Loops Plug-In Upsampling Relative Video Path Windows 10 Compatibility Interactive Project Tutorials Showcase Templates Mixing Templates Mastering Templates Start Screen .PNG Support Export Presets Enhanced Clip Export Synth Recording Style Dials x3 Upsample on Playback Aux Tracks Patch Points Rapture Session Monitorizer FZ Chain. I may have missed a few. This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations.. Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes. I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6. I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model.. edited to add clarity
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 19:59:13
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2015/12/01 21:38:31
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$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think?
Yes, no doubt it does add up. In fact 35 years from now, it will have added up to what I paid ( adjusted for inflation) for a 4-track tape recorder in 1975 which had no mixer, no processors, no instruments, and a need to feed it $156 worth of tape every month. (No, that's not a typo...35 years.)
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:03:10
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Anderton
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$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think?
Yes, no doubt it does add up. In fact 35 years from now, it will have added up to what I paid (adjusted for inflation) for a 4-track tape recorder in 1975 which had no mixer, no processors, no instruments, and a need to feed it $156 worth of tape every month. (No, that's not a typo...35 years.)
 Happy days. I miss splicing tape, creating crossfades was so much fun.. Maybe not.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:11:49
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2015/12/02 16:48:27
BTW I also seem to recall quite a few people paying $99 for the upgrade. Cakewalk has always offered sales in the past. It wouldn't surprise me if there were some sales to encourage people to do another year's worth of updates.
But one point that often seems to be missed is that Cakewalk anticipated that at some point, people might say "what I have is good enough" and not want/need any more features. This is why the software doesn't die if you don't renew. To me, that's treating paying customers with respect instead of forcing them to update just to open projects they created in the past with software for which they had paid.
There will be no perfect model for everyone who will ever use, or has ever used, SONAR. Like any other purchase or investment, you have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio for your own needs, and act accordingly...while understanding that others will see the cost/benefit ratio differently.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:14:37
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Just my 2 cents, but an optional $150 isn't bad at all to keep receiving updates. If everyone was content with what they currently have and don't renew there probably wouldn't be any need for the developers to keep the project going.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:17:02
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It sounds to me like you were quite happy with X3, and saw no real value to the last 12 mos of your subscription, so are hesitant to re-up again. That makes perfect sense. Tastes and workflows differ, so there will be different feelings about this. My Dad likes to get a new car every 3 to 4 years. His brother (my uncle) prefers to buy a car every 10 years or he doesn't feel like he's got his money's worth. Neither man is "right". Nor do they begrudge the other for his choice.
It's not rocket science, folks. If you can't justify in your heart to re-up, then you shouldn't. You can stop at the last month's version and happily use that forever (Assuming you bought into the yearly plan, and not month-to-month).
If at any time later, one of the future updates catches your fancy, you can buy a single month's sub to see if you like it. If so, you can start the month-to-month, or pay for a full year (The advantage of the latter plan is that you own it at the end of the sub).
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:17:56
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Valid points again if MS could improve Windows to equal Mac performance that would be sweet. I hope they are reading this thread for those enhancements
Performance is not the issue, imho. A well founded and configured Windows box will perform as well as if not better than an equivalent Mac. It's getting the Windows box configured that remains challenging for many, with drivers du jour and firewire compatibility issues, and so on and so on. On the other hand, the huge hardware ecosystem Windows drives means lower hardware prices for everybody, so it remains a very attractive platform. It's also that huge base of hardware (which Apple now leverages, interestingly) that make life difficult for us and MS's challenge is to make Windows as easy to configure as Mac's are. It's come a long, long, long way since the bad old days, but it has a ways to go with audio.
post edited by kevinwal - 2015/12/01 20:29:46
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:33:43
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1. I've been using CW since DOS V2 and YES in Jan (16th for me) I will buy the "rolling updates" (aka upgrade - or the "maintenance package" - pick your label) for a year.
2. HOWEVER, the topic of this thread concerned Platinum, and everyone keeps quoting $150, but for Platinum the cost is not $150 it is $200 (OK technically $199) or $20 a month (Professional will be $99 or $10 a month)
3. We can HOPE for a "sale" or price reduction here later in the month as an incentive but I don't see that happening this time around. Also unlike the jump from X3 to Platinum (that WAS $150) there aren't all the additional incentives like XLN's AD 2 free upgrade with a XLN 3 pak add-on, Melodyne Essential, and Dim Pro and Rapture full (assuming you didn't already have those anyway)
But who knows what CW will offer in next few weeks before first Rolling Update renewal is required.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:49:41
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kevinwal
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Valid points again if MS could improve Windows to equal Mac performance that would be sweet. I hope they are reading this thread for those enhancements
Performance is not the issue, imho. A well founded and configured Windows box will perform as well as if not better than an equivalent Mac. It's getting the Windows box configured that remains challenging for many, with drivers du jour and firewire compatibility issues, and so on and so on.
On the other hand, the huge hardware ecosystem Windows drives means lower hardware prices for everybody, so it remains a very attractive platform. It's also that huge base of hardware (which Apple now leverages, interestingly) that make life difficult for us and MS's challenge is to make Windows as easy to configure as Mac's are. It's come a long, long, long way since the bad old days, but it has a ways to go with audio.
I'm sitting here with Windows 10 on one of my computers using the same Focusrite 2i4 I use on either of my 2 Mac's (when I'm not using my Appogee interface ) . I'm not seeing anything close to what you have just said . Please show me the proof and educate me . edit , I just reread your post …OK I do understand the "intention / goal " to get Windows to where Core Audio is on a Mac . I will give you that . It is a valid goal where every one can benefit ….the truth as it stands today in December of 2015 . It is still a long ways off .… Kenny
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:54:56
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Fabio Rubato
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I'll probably hold out until cake really drills down and focuses into finishing existing functionality.
I support this. The last two updates I've 'paid' for have introduced issues where I'm unable to use these updates. Whilst it's fortunate that I am able to roll back to a version which allows me to continue making music reliably, the bugs introduced are creating loss of production time in trying to solve issues and are not giving me the benefit of what I'm supposed to be paying for. I'm pretty happy with all the current features and really don't need additional bonuses. I just want a robust and reliable piece of music software and if updates enhance this further, then cool but not at the cost of more bugs.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 20:56:21
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JonD
It sounds to me like you were quite happy with X3, and saw no real value to the last 12 mos of your subscription, so are hesitant to re-up again. That makes perfect sense. Tastes and workflows differ, so there will be different feelings about this. My Dad likes to get a new car every 3 to 4 years. His brother (my uncle) prefers to buy a car every 10 years or he doesn't feel like he's got his money's worth. Neither man is "right". Nor do they begrudge the other for his choice.
It's not rocket science, folks. If you can't justify in your heart to re-up, then you shouldn't. You can stop at the last month's version and happily use that forever (Assuming you bought into the yearly plan, and not month-to-month).
If at any time later, one of the future updates catches your fancy, you can buy a single month's sub to see if you like it. If so, you can start the month-to-month, or pay for a full year (The advantage of the latter plan is that you own it at the end of the sub).
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 21:01:00
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Fabio Rubato
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I'll probably hold out until cake really drills down and focuses into finishing existing functionality.
I support this. The last two updates I've 'paid' for have introduced issues where I'm unable to use these updates. Whilst it's fortunate that I am able to roll back to a version which allows me to continue making music reliably, the bugs introduced are creating loss of production time in trying to solve issues and are not giving me the benefit of what I'm supposed to be paying for. I'm pretty happy with all the current features and really don't need additional bonuses. I just want a robust and reliable piece of music software and if updates enhance this further, then cool but not at the cost of more bugs.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 21:26:38
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$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think?
Yes, no doubt it does add up. In fact 35 years from now, it will have added up to what I paid (adjusted for inflation) for a 4-track tape recorder in 1975 which had no mixer, no processors, no instruments, and a need to feed it $156 worth of tape every month. (No, that's not a typo...35 years.)
I really enjoy using Sonar. But it is quite an unfair comparison. Sonar doesn't do anything without a computer + audio interface, the cost of such a computer in 1975? The $150 is also just an update cost. To start the process, sonar costs $500 for the version under question. $150 a year isn't cheap for an upgrade/update on a yearly basis, IMO. However, the nice thing is the software from X3 on, I could see using it and not needing to upgrade for quite a few years. Personally, I'm guessing the upgrade price with be worth it for me every few years. Every year I think it is a bit steep. Users should keep in mind that X3 to today's Platinum is really 2+ years of upgrades not one. I'm really interested to see what they off in the next year. I personally thought it was odd that the developers came out with Rapture Pro, but didn't add that to the premium product, they just provided a stripped down version, and offer it as a separate purchase. Even Apple gave Logic users (a full DAW that costs $200, and even includes plgins like drummer) the Alchemy Synth as a free add on, not some stripped down version. The same can be said for some of the pro-channel models they have released on the side. The model has changed, why not start including those in the package, especially since they are of no value to anyone but Sonar users.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 21:44:41
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I have always felt fairly treated by Cakewalk. After some initial skepticism, I now appreciate the two new sales models. I, too, would prefer bugfixes instead of yet more features. But of course, I want the bugs holding ME back to be fixed! Recently a cheer went up from guys that use Notation. Whilst I don't use Notation, that was proof enough that bugs and old issues ARE being addressed. The Bakers' resources are not unlimited and Sonar is a mature product in a fairly crowded market. Old issues must be addressed, but the product must be driven forward, too. None of us will be served if Sonar stagnates. I will continue to moan and groan, gripe and issue empty threats. But when my year's sub is up, I'll want the new version. I know I will. I always do.
post edited by jpetersen - 2015/12/01 21:58:05
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 21:54:55
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jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year. I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
Two internal 2TB SSDs laptop stuffed with Larry's deals and awesome tools. Studio One is the cat's meow as a DAW now that I've migrated off of Sonar. Using BandLab Cakewalk just to grab old files when migrating songs.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 22:09:29
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NeoSoul
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BMOG
$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think?
Yes, no doubt it does add up. In fact 35 years from now, it will have added up to what I paid (adjusted for inflation) for a 4-track tape recorder in 1975 which had no mixer, no processors, no instruments, and a need to feed it $156 worth of tape every month. (No, that's not a typo...35 years.)
I really enjoy using Sonar. But it is quite an unfair comparison. Sonar doesn't do anything without a computer + audio interface, the cost of such a computer in 1975? The $150 is also just an update cost. To start the process, sonar costs $500 for the version under question.
$150 a year isn't cheap for an upgrade/update on a yearly basis, IMO. However, the nice thing is the software from X3 on, I could see using it and not needing to upgrade for quite a few years.
Personally, I'm guessing the upgrade price with be worth it for me every few years. Every year I think it is a bit steep. Users should keep in mind that X3 to today's Platinum is really 2+ years of upgrades not one.
I'm really interested to see what they off in the next year. I personally thought it was odd that the developers came out with Rapture Pro, but didn't add that to the premium product, they just provided a stripped down version, and offer it as a separate purchase. Even Apple gave Logic users (a full DAW that costs $200, and even includes plgins like drummer) the Alchemy Synth as a free add on, not some stripped down version.
The same can be said for some of the pro-channel models they have released on the side. The model has changed, why not start including those in the package, especially since they are of no value to anyone but Sonar users.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/01 22:12:40
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/12/02 10:28:36
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Nice list... Indeed, I could probably go for years and never use everything but some things I just LOVE... Do I need to upgrade? No... Will I? Of course... I'll continue to upgrade, not only for the goodies, but to support the small group of awesome folks creating this wonderful platform. I'll continue to reup because I can and know it's what makes improvements possible, even though I'm really pleased with the last year... beyond my expectations... and I humbly appreciate all the effort put into the platform this year. This issue is a personal decision EVERY person makes with EVERY DAW and other piece of software periodically... it is purely a matter of perspective and circumstances whether or not to upgrade... BMOG, you've made your position clear and I don't really care... do what you want... upgrade whenever or not... Repeating, defending, polarizing, judging, regurgitating/spewing, +1ing one side of contrived/subjective arguments at some point begins to sound like trolling to me. Many have said quite appropriately that this is a personal decision... there is no right or wrong. Many of us take a break for a year, two, or longer... That's fine... but nothing to keep dwelling on as if you're promoting a religious position... Egos are so ridiculous... Love the list, jb...I find it amazing.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2015/12/01 22:31:19
Apparently the OP does not plan to keep his membership going in 2016. Umm, OK.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2015/12/02 01:33:26
lawajava
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year.
I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
. . . jb101's list really puts it in perspective. The bakers have accomplished a lot in this last year. Can you imagine the old yearly + update system, and having all these new Cakewalk features all at once ? Would take a long time to download, and a long time to investigate how to use them, or whether you even need to use them. (I have found many items on the list not useful, but have equally found many items useful) The intangibles are the audio engine improvements, and the code enhancements, bug fixes, making everything run so much smoother. These are worth the price of renewal alone in my opinion. It's a far better piece of software than it was a year ago, and I think emerging as a DAW leader in the market because of the bold move to this membership model. You either join the partnership, or go find something else that better fits your needs. You can still make great music without renewing your membership, but you'll keep coming back to their website and forum just to see what they have come up with next.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 03:43:00
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lawajava
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year.
I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
Spot on. lawajava
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year.
I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
Spot on. A quick look at the monthly ezines this morning (all 213 pages of them!) reveal a list far, far longer than the ones you've highlighted above. $150 ($200?) per year to maintain & upgrade a million dollar studio and people are complaining it's too much? Get a grip fellas and remember how it used to be.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 04:39:43
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Bristol_Jonesey
lawajava
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year.
I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
Spot on.lawajava
jb101
So far, as part of the Sonar Platinum membership, the new features and content that I have received are:
Command Center
FX Stacking
Recycle/Pin Plugin Windows
Expandable Send
Pattern Tool
16 Virtual Custom Amps
Addictive Drums 2
"Stunning" New FX Chains
Mix Recall
The New Control Bar
REmatrix Solo
VocalSync
Craig Anderton VoxTools
Craig Anderton Acoustic Piezo CA-X Amp Sim
Hardgroove Steinberger Rapture Expansion Pack
Hardgroove’s Bass Loop Library
Craig Anderton Acoustic Guitar Presets
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Bark of Dog
ProChannel module from Boz Digital Labs-Panipulator
New Impulse Responses for REmatrix Solo
Anderton Collection “Phasor Constructor”
Les Paul Gold Top Expansion Pack-DimPro
Onscreen Virtual Controller
Pedalboard FX Chains
Kickmaster FX Chain
Synthetic IRs for REmatrix Solo
Kick Start Pack
SizzleBus
Drum Replacer
Strum Session 2
Deflate Gate
EDM Percussion Loops
Plug-In Upsampling
Relative Video Path
Windows 10 Compatibility
Interactive Project Tutorials
Showcase Templates
Mixing Templates
Mastering Templates
Start Screen
.PNG Support
Export Presets
Enhanced Clip Export
Synth Recording
Style Dials x3
Upsample on Playback
Aux Tracks
Patch Points
Rapture Session
Monitorizer FZ Chain.
I may have missed a few.
This does not include the hundreds of fixes and optimisations..
Do I think it is worth another year? Err, yes.
I have upgraded every time since the X series, and every few times since Sonar 6.
I seem to be getting more in a year, and a greater level of bug fixes than with the old model..
edited to add clarity
Saved me the time of saying something similar. It's a slam dunk how the bakers have proved the value of the annual investment through this year.
I won't blink at re-upping. It's a no brainer.
Spot on.
A quick look at the monthly ezines this morning (all 213 pages of them!) reveal a list far, far longer than the ones you've highlighted above.
$150 ($200?) per year to maintain & upgrade a million dollar studio and people are complaining it's too much?
Get a grip fellas and remember how it used to be.
No problem paying if it works!
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 05:52:42
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I don't know who got their subscription in Dec2014. I was one of 200 people offered to purchase the program a few weeks before official release and that was in January 2015. I believe the official release date was Jan 21
As for not wanting to upgrade next year that's OK. But I don't know of any software that continues to offer free updates for previous versions. In 2016 Sonar 2015 will be the previous version.
The payment for this version of Sonar actually provided all the development of Sonar during 2014 which was released in Jan 2015 and monthly updates until Jan 2016. I can't see how that is unfair or expensive.
If you're making a living using Soanr then $150 per year is chicken feed for maintaining your equipment and if it's just a hobby then I know lots of guys who spend tons more money on their hobbies than $150 per year.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 05:54:57
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Fabio Rubato
No problem paying if it works!
It does work, and work better than ever, so I am more than happy to pay. The list above was only an extract from a much longer list that I compiled when thinking about whether to upgrade again in January. I was already pretty sure I would, but just wanted to see how well it had worked this year, under the new model. Many of the new features do not directly affect my workflow, but I am happy that they are there, and useful to others. What does affect me in a BIG way is the improvements in stability and optimisations that make using Sonar even more productive and smooth.
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 06:54:20
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Like I said, the combined total of the ezines comes to 213 A4 pages
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Re: Platinum subscription ending in December
2015/12/02 07:07:37
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BMOG
I am struggling to find a reason to pay for another year of subscriptions. I plan to upgrade to Kingston tonight so what would I really be missing out on if I don't re-up? Price just does not seem worth it to me your thoughts?
I'm with you on this. I've been using Cakewalk since '98, but sonar pro has everything I need and the succession of more and more features is often more of a distraction than of any real use.
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