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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/05 22:43:18 (permalink)
The app found all the items in my plugs folders: dxi, vst, vsti, vst3,...
 
 
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/06 00:22:02 (permalink)
I've got around 90 plugins and every one I remove gives me just as much excitement as when I origonally bought them. My ambition is to just run on just one plugin one day ;)

It takes a lot to get me to buy new software nowadays, the last plugin I bought was melodyne. I find most plugins far too similar for my liking. I also found the more plugins you get, the more you fiddle with them and that means less time making music. I prefer concentrating on a select few plugins and therefore get to know them really well. When I know them inside out I will move to the next batch... Slowly slowly is the key.

Before I was in the mentality of just collecting plugins for the presets, that gets very expensive and hit and very hit and miss imho. You end up with a lot of duplication.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/08 17:47:49 (permalink)
Hi bitflipper,
 
I'd love to try your inventory app (via either dropbox or email)! I'd be happy to pay a few $$ too if you release it.
 
I've just reinstalled my ageing XP partition at the same time as setting up Win 7 on a new one...your app seems like it might save me a huge amount of time sorting through both lots of plugin folders.
 
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/08 21:10:22 (permalink)
Hashbrown: CakeAlex
Will you share your list of plugs?
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/08 21:35:09 (permalink)
This thread, and about two weeks of bronchitis, instigated a period of cleansing.
 
In an earlier post I suggested using the DIR command to list the plugs in the plugs' folders.
 
Much to my chagrin and annoyance I found a billion samples as well as the related plugs, in the default Sonar folders.
 
I ALWAYS attempt to install samples in the USER DEFINED samples folder.  Unfortunately too many of the programmer managers ASSUME putting everything in buried and hidden folders is good for everybody. (AD would not install quickly because I do not use the default plug paths. I use a folder on the C: drive.)
 
(Nothing a user needs access to, and/or can save, should be placed in a buried/hidden folder that is not a default for every average backup program. Programs, program data, and roaming folders should never be used for user presets, progs, samples,.... If I cannot easily drag and drop to a backup device it should not be placed there.........)
 
So, anyway, back at the ranch, I proceeded to spend way too much time reviewing all the plugs and deleted lots. Fur shure stuff installed with Sonar that I will never use.
 
Example of other bits: Once upon a time far, far ago, I journeyed to find an easy to use ping-pong echo plug. Got a bunch, but did not rid myself of the pile of accumulated debris
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And sometimes the one item I wanted required getting the bundle.
 
Lots of stuff has left the building.
 
And then I reviewed, and consolidated, all the temporary backups created during installations, all audio docs, tutorials, videos, templates, presets,....
 
I figger I deleted at least 200 gigabytes of stuff. Got rid of all the redundant copies of Cakewalk Content, expanded installation files, versions of DP, Rapture,....
 
I now have many fewer folders for all the stuff. And one external backup.
 
Much easier to find stuff now.
 
 
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/08 21:45:33 (permalink)
Hmmm as far as samples are concerned when it comes to wrong folders I've never had any probems except two bugbears:

Rapture and Dimension Pro are a pain on the ass when moving folders around. Some bad programming here for sure.

NI products put presets and samples etc everywhere and the install routine won't allow customization. It takes forever to move them manually but is possible.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 13:55:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Keni 2015/03/14 14:15:01
I have uploaded my VST inventory tool to dropbox, so anyone who's interested can grab it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zmzbgxhbjyvbfc/VSTInventory105.zip?dl=0
 
There is no installation or setup required, just unzip the exe and run it. You do, however, have to have Excel installed on your machine. I plan to make a text-out version when I have time, so that Excel will not be a mandatory prerequisite.
 
It's a 32-bit application so it should run on any version of Windows. I've run it on XP 32, Win 7 32 and Win 8.1 64. Others have successfully tested it on Win 7 64. It should be compatible with Vista.
 
No guarantees that it won't blow up on ya (not much error handling or bullet-proofing in there yet), but it can't do any harm if it does. Worst-case failure mode would be dying while creating the spreadsheet, in which case you could have an orphaned instance of excel.exe floating in application purgatory. If that happens, just go to Task Manager and kill any instances of excel.exe you see listed there.
 
Known limitations:
  • Excel is required
  • Works only with SONAR Producer Edition (32- or 64-bit)
 
Both of these shortcomings will be addressed the first day in January that I don't have a zillion other things to do, or if I'm killing time in some airport departure lounge.
 
Let me know if there's any additional information you'd like to see added to the spreadsheet (e.g. file datestamps, DLL header fields such as modified-date, language or copyright notices, CLSIDs, whether it's a SynthEdit creation).
 
Also let me know if you see any blank fields such as missing vendor names or file versions. There are DLLs in the registry that aren't VSTs, such as runtime libraries for plugins (e.g. iZone4.dll) that the program has to remove from the report, and I only know about the ones I happen to have.
 
Next up: revisit my project scanner program that I'd put on hold because it was just too damn slow. That one lists all your projects and enumerates which plugins were used in each. But it's a chore pulling that information out because the SONAR project file format has never been documented, necessitating a brute-force text search.


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 14:22:28 (permalink)
Wow Bit...thanks for sharing this! I have one computer with excel on it but it isn't my DAW. Can I still use this if I put them on a memory stick and transport to my DAW which doesn't have Excel?

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 15:26:37 (permalink)
Thank you soooo much Bit! This was exactly what I was looking. You are so da man! Thanks for all your help.
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 15:33:42 (permalink)
Seems like everything is there for me except one PSP plug does not list the vendor name. PSP N2O.dll.
 
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 15:57:32 (permalink)
Do they make a spreedsheet big enough for your list Bapu? 
 
Dave This is wonderful work and extremely useful. Thank you. 

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 18:14:24 (permalink)
Thanks so much bitflipper :-)
 
If I rummage around hard enough I just might find my Office 2000 installation CD...
 
(tried the file with Openoffice installed but no luck. Guess it really does need Excel).
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 19:09:22 (permalink)
Starise
Wow Bit...thanks for sharing this! I have one computer with excel on it but it isn't my DAW. Can I still use this if I put them on a memory stick and transport to my DAW which doesn't have Excel?



No. It'll throw two errors and stop (which is understandable):
ExcelClass_Initialize ActiveX component can't create object
VSTInventory Unable to establish communication with Microsoft Excel
 

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 21:03:30 (permalink)
Interesting issue. It's marking several of them multiple times because of Automap.
http://i.imgur.com/KAViThJ.jpg
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/09 22:17:16 (permalink)
That is fantastic!! Thanks so much Bit.
 
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 00:30:13 (permalink)
I had to look up automap to figure out what that's about. Apparently, those are wrappers for all your plugins, and because they are real files that look like VST plugins to SONAR, they're technically not duplicates. What do you think? Should I filter them out of the report or leave them in?
 


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 01:22:57 (permalink)
Thanks very much bit, looking foward to giving it a work out.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 01:38:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jps 2014/12/10 03:12:38
Just uploaded a new version. This one will create a text file if you don't have Excel installed.
 
If you do have Excel installed but just want a text file anyway, append "-TEXT" to the command line.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aw3v1nr9v2j3uv/VSTInventory106.zip?dl=0
 
Caveat: I haven't actually tested this yet on a machine that doesn't have Excel on it. I'm just going on blind faith that it'll work. Julien, you'll tell me, yes?
 
One other thing...the file's pretty wide, so you'll want to turn Word Wrap off in Notepad when viewing the report.
 
Next mod will be the addition of a CSV option so you'll be able to import the text file into a spreadsheet or database on another computer. 


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 02:31:12 (permalink)
I want so badly to write something that is a little clever and gets an idea of just what I think of this work. Unfortunately, I am at a total loss of words. All I can say is WOW and thank you. Fantastic! Dave, what an asset to this forum.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 14:15:31 (permalink)
The drop box download was flawless. I have a Win7 32 bit with office 2010 on it. Excel opens the file when I click run but it looks for a key...says' "Can't find key" . I'm guessing this is because I don't have Sonar Producer on this machine. Maybe I can get a free reader online to put in my DAW.
 

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 19:08:23 (permalink)
bitflipper
Just uploaded a new version. This one will create a text file if you don't have Excel installed.
 
Caveat: I haven't actually tested this yet on a machine that doesn't have Excel on it. I'm just going on blind faith that it'll work. Julien, you'll tell me, yes?
 

 
INJB, yes it works fine.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 20:45:19 (permalink)
Starise, as you discovered it only works with Producer Edition. Making it compatible with Studio is on my to-do list. 
 
Jeff, thanks for the feedback.


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/10 22:19:02 (permalink)
Waiting for the Studio version with baited breath. Ok, I can't wait.
---- <<<< WARNING - DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME >>>> ----
I, uh, am impatient. I copied the Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory hive to the SONAR Producer hive (after renaming the hive paths). Yep, it worked. Why there's a producer hive on my PC is a mystery. But I now have a beautiful spreadsheet with my VSTs listed!
 
Thanks for sharing with us!
 
P.S. I'm not that reckless. I backed up the Producer hive first.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 00:48:56 (permalink)
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I had to look up automap to figure out what that's about. Apparently, those are wrappers for all your plugins, and because they are real files that look like VST plugins to SONAR, they're technically not duplicates. What do you think? Should I filter them out of the report or leave them in?

I'd filter them seeing as they aren't actually VSTs that aren't already listed elsewhere. I think it would just end up causing confusion.
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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 00:50:40 (permalink)
Downloaded and ran perfectly on Win 8.1 64 bit into Excel 2013.
 
Thanks Dave. 

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 09:14:46 (permalink)
Hey, StringMaster, where have you been? Good to see you back in the old neighborhood. Guys, meet the string master, who just might have the most interesting and unusual day job of anybody here.


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 09:24:59 (permalink)
OK, TerraSin, I'll filter out those Novation wrappers in the next build.
 
Mr. Ranck: kudos for being resourceful and thinking outside the hive. But yeah, kids, don't try that at home without backing up first. 
 
 


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 09:51:06 (permalink)
I've just posted build 1.0.7 at dropbox.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulmt0wg458485lx/VSTInventory107.zip?dl=0
 
This experimental version handles Studio Edition (I hope) and filters out the Novation wrappers. Not having Studio and not having automap myself, I'm shootin' in the dark here. So please, DRanck and TerraSin, let me know if it works.


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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 09:55:51 (permalink)
bitflipper
Just uploaded a new version. This one will create a text file if you don't have Excel installed.
 
If you do have Excel installed but just want a text file anyway, append "-TEXT" to the command line.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aw3v1nr9v2j3uv/VSTInventory106.zip?dl=0
 
Caveat: I haven't actually tested this yet on a machine that doesn't have Excel on it. I'm just going on blind faith that it'll work. Julien, you'll tell me, yes?
 
One other thing...the file's pretty wide, so you'll want to turn Word Wrap off in Notepad when viewing the report.
 
Next mod will be the addition of a CSV option so you'll be able to import the text file into a spreadsheet or database on another computer. 





Thanks for sharing this, Dave! And for all that you contribute to this forum!! Much appreciated.

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Re: Plugin Inventory 2014/12/11 12:28:43 (permalink)
bitflipper
Hey, StringMaster, where have you been? Good to see you back in the old neighborhood. Guys, meet the string master, who just might have the most interesting and unusual day job of anybody here.


Dave! Good to be back recording again. This forum is like coming home. How have you been? Are you going to be at NAMM this year?

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