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2017/11/24 07:54:09 (permalink)

Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread

It has a dedicated remote iOS app for iPad.
Been at it for 2 days going over all the features, putting it through heavy paces, and watching YouTube videos.
I like it. A lot. 
It has comping, a "pro channel", and midi editing is fine.
 
Just downloaded the remote app.  Gonna test it out.

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 07:56:59 (permalink)
How does the routing compare to SPLAT? I rely heavily on side-chain, aux mixes and busses.

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 08:06:47 (permalink)
remote app is not a problem for any DAW, for Sonar too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvmazOAGEU (Sonar + Samsung Gear S2 in this video)
 
Just google "TouchOSC" or "midi controller apps"
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 08:11:08 (permalink)
It has all three (routing).  But it has more...you can drop instruments onto instruments, then drop effects on to that.
I would be nowhere without watching Youtube videos.  The first day, on my own, I was lost.  After finding two good Youtube channels I was up to speed fast.  I recommend it:
 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 08:14:51 (permalink)
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remote app is not a problem for any DAW, for Sonar too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvmazOAGEU (Sonar + Samsung Gear S2 in this video)
 
Just google "TouchOSC" or "midi controller apps"


This is a free, "dedicated" remote control app for Studio One, specifically.
https://itunes.apple.com/...emote/id988444520?mt=8

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 08:26:23 (permalink)
It's an excellent app, works real dandy like

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 08:49:33 (permalink)
Giving Studio One a try and am a tad confused. Does anyone know where I might find the equivalent of Sonar's midi list view?

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 10:42:21 (permalink)
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Giving Studio One a try and am a tad confused. Does anyone know where I might find the equivalent of Sonar's midi list view?


if you mean the event list view, there isn't one (yet)

just a sec

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 11:05:01 (permalink)
I don’t like it so far, tried putting a grid on a free time recorded piece.....one click on sonar about 30 in S1

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 11:07:53 (permalink)
I have Studio One 3, that I got with a Presonus purchase.  Never did anything with it but I'm starting to learn it. 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 11:16:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jude77 2017/11/24 16:14:31
Picked Studio One 3 Pro up from audiodeluxe for £130 (also grabbed Notion 6 while I was there for less than £50). Spent a day or so tinkering and I'm really enjoying it. The 'arranger' functionality is fantastic for my workflow and the Hi-DPI setting on my 4k monitor is a breath of fresh air. Also their native low-latency monitoring works better on my system than Sonar's low-latency stuff.

It's different and, after nearly twenty years in Sonar (and a lot of lurking in this forum - just realised this will be my first post. I'm a genuine Sonar Plat user, not a Presonus shill, scouts honour!) it's going to take a lot of getting used to. I'll be finishing a couple of projects off in Sonar and I get a twinge of regret every time I open it, I'm going to miss the old beast.
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 13:24:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jude77 2017/11/24 16:15:01
I've converted a couple of Sonar projects over to Studio One and, so far, I really like working in it. I've had zero issues and their midi implementation is actually way better than the rumors suggest. I'd say if you work in the box and don't need advanced midi stuff like note expressions (in Cubase), you'll be fine. However, if you use hardware synths and like how Sonar can show patch names and basically integrate with external hardware, Cubase is likely the better solution. None of that is available in Studio One. You can still sync external synths, but all patch management has to be done on the synth itself. Also, I'm pretty sure you can't sync S1 to an external synth, though you can sync the synth to S1, if that makes sense.
 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 13:47:14 (permalink)
No Track templates


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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 14:14:05 (permalink)
For my future DAW I am torn between Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro. Those two are probably the most on par with Sonar, but just don't seem to have the stuff I really loved about Sonar. It really brings it back home just how great Sonar was! Currently, I am not really liking Studio One that much. It seems a bit immature but looks like it holds a lot of promise for the future for sure. I have got it to work with my ancient M-audio Projectmix which is a bonus. I haven't used Cubase for many years so I need to wait for them to release the demo before I can make any decisions. I plan on continuing to use Sonar, but will invest in my next DAW while there is a good crossgrade opportunity on.

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 14:25:17 (permalink)
Essentials:
No Track templates
No Step Sequencer

Can manage:
No Gain Knob
No Matrix View
No Event Editor
Mix Recall


Yet to find anything similar to:
Groove clip
Clip property information in Sonar Inspector window. 
Special copy paste
Link Clips.
Waveform preview for instrument tracks.
Alt+click a bus track to select all tracks routed to that bus. 
64bit double precession engine during export
Upsampling?
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 14:36:43 (permalink)
I will miss track templates if I end up with S1, however, I can probably get around that using a project template that has AD drums multi-out tracks.  That's really the only track template I need.  I will miss the gain knob as well, but I think I saw a Joe Gilder video where there is a fairly easy way to adjust gain (plug-in maybe?)

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 14:49:28 (permalink)
I jumped the gun a bought Studio One at Audio Deluxe for $168. I'm going through the learning curve through trial and error, videos and reading the manual. I'll get the hang of it eventually! I like it so far and it will do what I was doing with Sonar albeit in a different look and feel. Reminds me of  Native Instruments which makes sense since they're both German companies. 

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 14:59:19 (permalink)
Ouch, I want me some groove clip functionality in studio one!
 
I'm bombing through the s1 demo and so far so good. I'd demo cubase if there was one.
 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 16:11:15 (permalink)
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Giving Studio One a try and am a tad confused. Does anyone know where I might find the equivalent of Sonar's midi list view?


if you mean the event list view, there isn't one (yet)


Ahh - thanks. I am not as confused as I thought. Loving it right up until it comes time to edit midi cc's that control my outboard gear then.

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 16:30:03 (permalink)
Trying to understand something.    In S1 are you able to go into MIDI and adjust the notes  (time and velocity)?   Or is that not possible with S1?
 
And has anyone tried Mixbus?

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 17:30:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2017/11/24 20:38:33
Just posted this on another S1 thread. Per their reference manual you should be able to adjust time/length/velocity in a similar manner to what you might be used to in SONAR. Actual hands on use might not feel the same.
 
I'm a bit curious about the following statement from their Reference Manual. 
LookMom,NoMIDI!
The Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) specification was created in 1983. While it has served musicians well for more than 25 years, it has some limitations in terms of resolution and speed. We circumvent many of those limitations within Studio One by substituting our own high performance control system in place of MIDI when controlling certain vital internal parameters. As an example,fine-grained parameter automation is provided within virtual instrument parts, rather than much lower resolution (128 steps) MIDI control-data automation.The Control Link system is also made possible by abstracting MIDI from Studio One's internal processes. As MIDI evolves and new potential standards are developed, Studio One remains prepared for the innovations of the future.
....
OK, perhaps they -can- do better than a well established industry standard with many proven robust implementations, but I'd like to use a substantial user base that documents specifics of such a benefit.
 
From the PreSonus Forum
 
"I was commenting on S1's ability to remain competitive when it comes to the feature set, which is sorely lacking in many areas compared to the competition, particularly on the MIDI side of things. The slow development time combined with the radio silence is just frustrating. I feel like S1 just needs a really solid MIDI release, and to kill off a few longstanding FR's like Mixer Undo, Track Notes and an improved Tempo View and it would essentially be perfect. Narech is filling in some of the gaps on the MIDI side of things, while adding some cool functionality outside of the scripts, but this is all stuff I'd just like to see Presonus handle themselves (and do better frankly). 

I'm just getting impatient for a new release I guess. I'm still a fan of this DAW big time due to the workflow and stability, but just want to see the pace of development increase. I'm sure if I were using Cubase I'd be complaining about their poor VCA fader implementation or something else..."
 
...
I've taken a quick look at their Reference Manual. It says enough of the right things, but nothing like actual hands on use for my particular way-of-working to know for sure.
 
Looking for videos for a specific use case, such as setting up a drum map and creating/editing MIDI clips. 
 
 

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 17:39:04 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I mentioned this in other posts to help with your decisions:
 
  • If you use Melodyne, Studio One already has ARA, Cubase does not.
  • Yes, Studio One is not fancy, but it is rock solid.
  • A biggie - Presonus is both a hardware and software company so Studio One integrates tightly with all of their surfaces and HW (not many SW companies out there do both).
  • Presonus purchased Notion software awhile and offers scoring integration with Studio One.
Hope that helps!
 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 18:22:48 (permalink)
These will help you understand how Studio One 3 works:
 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 18:57:31 (permalink)
Can the track view and console view be displayed on separate monitors in Studio One? I thought I read on one of these threads that you can not split them to two different monitors. This would be a big deal for my preferred workflow.



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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:26:20 (permalink)
It does not look like that is possible.  You can do that with the PRV, though.  Surprised you can't do it with console view.  I too would like to use two monitors one for track view and one for other views like console, PRV, Melodyne, etc.

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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:27:44 (permalink)
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Can the track view and console view be displayed on separate monitors in Studio One? I thought I read on one of these threads that you can not split them to two different monitors. This would be a big deal for my preferred workflow.


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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:51:07 (permalink)
I'm not positive, but at the link, it sounds like it's possible:
https://ask.audio/articles/top-10-mixing-tips-for-presonus-studio-one
 
"PreSonus has built Studio One with the multi-monitor user in mind. The console can be quickly and easily ‘detached’ from the main window. You can simply move it to a second display and maximize it to fill the screen.  
If you don’t use two monitors, you can also detach the console with the goal of keeping it ‘floating’ in the foreground. Then, when you’re ready to resume your typical workflow it can be ‘re-attached’ with the click of a button."
 
However, this link is from 2014, so maybe it no longer applies.
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:51:20 (permalink)
 
How do people find loading speeds for VSTs into tracks in S1??
 
I have tried on the SAME PC with S1 first, two vsts ( Kontakt & Arturia Analog Lab 2 ). I tried in S1 first .. took near 1 minute to load Arturia and about 40 secs to load Kontakt. 
 
I then closed S1 and opened Sonar Platinum. Both loaded within 10 seconds or less. Hardly windows caching across two different daws ie making 2nd daw opened faster?
 
Try this test yourselves?
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:53:30 (permalink)
Yes you can - need to undock (they call it attach) then move independently 
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Re: Presonus Studio One Pro 3.5 Thread 2017/11/24 19:53:30 (permalink)
It was not obvious to me like it was with the PRV.  Granted I spent about 2 minutes actually trying to figure it out.  I can probably adapt if I need to (just make the console view almost the entire screen (leaving one track visible in track view and mix that way.)  I seldom need to use both TV and CV at the same time other than song navigation.

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