Some features could probably be implemented in the 2.5 (if there is going to be one)

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2.5 User-defined note value and grid settings in the editor (beyond the normal pre-twentieth century western 2,4,8,16,32). So I could tell it to define the bar as two sets of eigth-note septuplets, or one quarter-note quintuplet, and so on and so on.

2.5 MMC (is that what it is?) support. So we can use our control surfaces. This is a big one for me.

3.0 I agree about a quality distortion plugin.

2.5 A horizontal Main Bus meter, placed below (and the same length as) the transport controls, (or where the main volume slider is now, superimposed or something) so it can actually be used as a meter.

3.0 I used to want more aux busses, but i've come to the realization that I never use more than 3 anyway. I wouldn't complain if they were available, though, of course.

3.0 Velocity II please. More cells. More multivelocity kits. Now, I have Battery 2 and DKFHS now so this probably won't help me much anymore, but when I was relying on it for drums exclusively it was frustrating on both those counts. It's a great looking ride that handles like a dream, but it's underpowered.

3.0 NPulse II please. More sound options, more modulation/mangling possibilities.

3.0 DS864 is a prince amongst kings. Give it some gravitas or replace it with a cut-down of a third-party sampler.

2.5 Auto-Quantize is fine and probably very useful... so long as it's optional and not the default.

3.0 Node-and-line automation, like in Sonar. 'painting' light blue on slightly darker blue background is awkward, and not just a little.

2.5 Markers.

2.5 Autosave to an autosave file as Sonar does when you have autosave on. It does not alter the main file.

3.0 a Mastering plug suite would be nice for those working entirely in P5. A stereo graphic eq, something like spectralive, a multiband compresser, and a good limiter, maybe one with some warmth. This is my main bus signal chain and lemme tell you, boy....

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Anyway, that's my four or five cents.

ORIGINAL: oroboros

Yeah, something to rival Scream 4 would be nice, although even the vst world in general seems to be lacking this.

B-Rock just turned me on to the iZotope Trash, which is as close as I've found - check out the samples. I'll see if it matches the sheer versatility of Scream when I get it. Anything close would be a godsend.

Just be careful oroboros. trash puts out a great sound but it is a huge cpu hog. Because of that I rarely use it. I actually use an old version of supercamelphat more often.

eric

One of my favorite topics has returned.

Seems like there are two kinds of requests,

"Can you do something like......."

and "You should be able to.......better than this"

I've already ranted in here but it's good to know others have similar requests.

Drum machine quantization, more audio stuff and perhaps CycloneII ?

C'mon Cakedudes. We know you can do it.

Give me modular routing of synths and effects ... Buses and mixers are relics of the hardware stone-age.

So is modular routing, (and myself, as well), Risto. <g> They used 1/4" patch cords. Just joking there, but I like the way that you think. Push that envelope.

EnergyXT & Audiomulch show how it's done… not sure how this would fit into the P5 paradigm but it's sure is nice being about to boss your audio paths around, telling them where to go… without those antiquated little-short-tailed snakes B is rabbiting on about (have they managed to find sanctuary in the swamp?)

As a P5'er who was lured in by Dimension, I find the whole mixing issue pretty woeful. I don't know how you guys do it…

P5 v3

• Custom color selections for all areas of the program. Several color schemes shipping with the product.
  
• Dimension Paro included with the package
  three appregiators that will sync to each other. This would enable you to use one for drums, one for base and one for keyboards or lead.
  
• Improved automation control
  
• Improved Midi support
  
• Better controls over the existing audio out channels.
  
• Improved midi out for external synth built in not requiring the add on
  
• A hefty distortion filter included
  
• A simple macro utility enabling recording of some repeated functions that are used over and over again
  
• Built in computer keyboard interface allowing the computer keyboard to be used for simple sequencing
  
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ORIGINAL: Mod Bod

I was working on a new drum track this weekend and I came up with this idea. Wouldn't it be nice if you could open up multiple instances of the Loop and Pattern view? The shortcuts are nice but I wish I had three windows this weekend. One would be open to my 1/8 note grooves folder. One would be open to my fills folder. And one would be open to my single note hits folder.

That way I could click, grab & drop without a lot of scrolling or changing directories.

feature request! did this myself awhile back, I mean I can do this in Sonar after all....

The last two P5 demos I went to had audiences of men mostly over 40.

It's true, Bob. Little Known Factoid: P5 was named after the increased overnight frequency of enlarged prostate gland sufferers. To reflect this MIDI-life crisis, V3 is rumored to be bundled with Minoxidil coupons, a sample pack of Just for Men for Beards, and a silver '69 Corvette.

Seriously, Bob, tell me about your 3 sync'ed argeggiators request. I've been tinkering [I said tinkering, not tinkling] with that, so maybe I've got something for you.

To say its already there is true but to say it could be greatly improved for the next version is what I am talking about

Gotcha, not that I was jumping on you guys in my pervious reply, I just wanted to make sure it was known that these exist and are very useful as is. True they can always improve them, I totally agree with you on that!

Believe me, I am a core advocate for not half@$$ing a thing, I say, if you're going to do a thing, do it BIG and make it something to be reckoned with. (A good indication of this is in my FR seen below)

But on the same token, it should be noted that they are quite capable in their current iterations.

Layer Auto-Creation - for multi-timbral instruments: automatically create layers for each added, and or default enabled out.

Groove Pane Scrolling via mouse wheel - I could move through it so much faster.

Optional Project Bundling

Bounce to track - Enhanced to Bounce to GrooveClip

Hide Track - Fully hide tracks when needed.

Show/Hide Track Lanes - equivalent to "Show/Hide Settings" used for effects plugins. Sliding/Fade in/out effect is a must to add a flare to the GUI! Windows has the perfect example of this in the explorer window, to the left; Detail Buttons.

Dimension needs a patch location indicator - There are too many patches in this thing, not that I'm complaining, but it becomes difficult to remember where you where in a bank once you've closed the browser.
While we're at it, a patch position locator in the inspector, for every synth !

Auto Volume/Gain Compensation - reduction via Mouse-Click on Meters

Quick Reverse Button - Realtime (On the fly) Reverse Playback - lays in automation which be edited. Is non-destructive, stays in place, yet still removable.

Perfectly drawn Convex/Concave Curves via Automation Tool

Optional Fully Integrated Modular MidiOut - MidiOutXL if you will...

A Drum Sampler with Exact MPC behavior + Synchron embedded integration with Project 5, and even more powerful! Must work perfectly with the Mandatory Trigger Finger and Project5!!!

Destroy that 16 device rewire expectancy in all Cakewalk products!!!

PS I am not trying to diss on project 5, it is still awesome system. I've used cakewalk products as a hobbyist for many years. But sometimes the grass looks greener on the other side :) Hopefully they'll continue to expand Project 5 and not let it wither and die even if its not as popular as Live. (I tried the demo and was pretty mystified by Live's interface honestly)

Ok some excellent ideas in this thread. Now Cakewalk can zip it up and put it in our Christmas update list for P5 v3 and if half of this stuff gets in there we will be good to go...

Why stop there, import every useful audio file out there.

I'm a new poster here. I see lots of good ideas in this thread.. There are two things that would cause me to use P5 more than Sonar. Maybe I'm missing something but here they are:

1. The ability to use separate tracks for SampleTank and other multi channel synths. I know how to use track layers to do this but they're a pain to set up, muting the top layer mutes all the layers, and they're confusing when doing mulitple takes which automatically create layers. Multiple outputs would be nice too for seperate effects.

2. A quick and easy destructive split. My workflow when creating something new is to jam for a while then clip out the bars I want to keep. So, jam for 100 bars and to get the 4 good ones, I'd like to simply be able to type Alt-S or something to destructively split the track. Plain "S"plit makes the clip impossible to edit because it's still 100 measures long. This is fairly simple to do in Sonar. The only way I see how to do this in P5 is, if saving more than one bar, is to split it then merge the two back together again.

Hmm...interesting idea about not using the first track layer, although I tend to use the Groove Matrix anyway, so the mute thing is less of an issue. The multiout handling in P5 is annoying and I don't know why they chose this way to do it...they should have made any multiout instrument track more like a folder track which would then display sub-tracks underneath for each output...that way you could mute, change volume/pan, see the level meters, add effects for each output without having to arse around with changing the little output box whenever you want to do something on another output.

The multiout handling in P5 is annoying and I don't know why they chose this way to do it...they should have made any multiout instrument track more like a folder track which would then display sub-tracks underneath for each output...that way you could mute, change volume/pan, see the level meters, add effects for each output without having to arse around with changing the little output box whenever you want to do something on another output.

I actually think the method they decided to use is pretty brilliant, although I have to say it's a tad half-stepped. It would have made much more since to cause Project 5's main track to automatically switch to the output that corralates to the layer selected.

Or better still, P5 should automatically assign outs to the perspective layer as it is created. This would work perfectly with my idea for Show/Hide track layers, keeping everything nice and neat.

Labdog, Do you think you could wiki this info? (click me!)
I'd do it but I don't know how yet (and I'm afraid I'd screw it up ).

I'll have to look into that, I'll have to set up an account so that I can get into it.

-LD

I'd still like to be able to use the instruments on separate tracks though. For example, imagine a song that uses only SampleTank. It would only have one main track for the whole song.

True you would only have one track, but you'd have a single track x 16. An output (within that track) for each available one the instrument possess. This still allows you to treat each channel as an individual, controlling (separately) 16 volume levels, 16 mute/solos, 16 pans and widths, 16 arppegiator destinations, 16 effects bins....well you should get the picture here.

I don't dislike the way P5 handles muti-out instruments at all. I do, however, feel that it could benefit greatly from a high level of refinement. Such as making P5 fully aware of how to assign I/O's to layers on its own.

I'd like to see the program do this each time I create a layer, or even auto-create the layer(s) for me, according to the channels I enable.

LabDog