Gregmang
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:08:10
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I went back online (typically my DAW is offline) and went back into CCC and now for whatever reason the s/n looks fine.
Wierd, eh ?
Thx Dr Avalanche
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Doktor Avalanche 
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:18:54
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Gregmang
I went back online (typically my DAW is offline) and went back into CCC and now for whatever reason the s/n looks fine.
Wierd, eh ?
Thx Dr Avalanche
Assuming it works like Sonar, when you are Sonar for the first time I think the registration mechanism kicks in. If you are offline it clearly won't register. Going into the CCC and then back into Sonar I guess will clear it. Sounds like the same for Rap Pro.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:20:06
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Another issue - I thought this synth was for rappers....
Only kidding this time.
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:23:23
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Doktor Avalanche
So within about 10 minutes I got this...
Load up "Majestic" in Digital Sound Factory Symphonic Strings HD. It works in Dim Pro but silence within Rap Pro. Other samples work (I haven't checked all of them yet of course)... Anybody experience the same?
Majestic works in R Pro for me, as do it appears the others, never checked every one, but went through quickly picking at random, and all was fine, but as been said somewhere else the LP Gold Top ones don't seem to.
post edited by jih64 - 2015/04/28 22:32:04
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:38:04
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Confirmed nothing working under Gibson Les Paul Gold Top either. I see the text and everything just no playback. I wonder why Majestic is working for you and not for me, in fact all the samples under "Digital Sound Factory Symphonic" ain't happening... As per manual Expansion packsYou can download any Rapture and Dimension Pro expansion packs you already own via Cakewalk CommandCenter (see “Cakewalk Command Center” on page 9). After you have installed a new expansion pack, press F5while Rapture Pressing F5 for me appears to do nothing... Don't even get a confirmation that you pressed it.
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:50:07
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The issue is engagement to be honest Craig - if you need more detail then ask me for it, writing what is happening at your end just waters down what I have written at my end [snip] ...it would have been far better to have engagement with what I had written than have engagement with what you had written
Honestly, I don't want to draw this out but I did in fact engage with what you wrote. In post #11 you said "It's probably still installing but how can I tell without any sort of progress bar just something that whirls around like a cylon helmet" and in post #19 you re-iterated what you said ("impossible to tell if it's working or not...not much hard drive activity and the folders don't seem to be getting any larger, and no progress bar either - it's a guessing game.."). That seemed like an unequivocal statement of the problem - you didn't see progress bars. I truly don't know how else I could have interpreted those statements. So I talked about progress bars, used screen shots to show that there were progress bars, and proposed a theory as to why you didn't see progress bars. It never occurred to me to ask for more details, because saying twice that you didn't see progress bars led me to believe that the issue was that you didn't see progress bars. You didn't leave any room for nuance. I did supply more detail when I thought more about what could be going on... Yes, and that rendered what I had said irrelevant. But I can't engage with statements that don't exist at the time I engage. This is all too frustrating, I'm taking a break. If anyone wants to say hi, I'll be over at Harmony Central.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 22:50:56
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Don't worry Craig I just need acknowledgement with what I'm seeing that's all thanks.
Another possible bug unless I misunderstand the functionality.
When loading a program the info pane will show "Times loaded: 1".
If you load another program and then go back to the same program it still says "Times loaded: 1".
I would expect it to increment.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/28 23:04:25
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Further info - when loading Gibson Les Paul Gold Top or Digital Sound Factory Symphonic, if you click the "1" button at the top you will see a view with another piano keyboard. You will see the multisample near the piano as empty. Sadly there are no error messages or anything telling us what it expects to see so I'm guessing it just loads the programs empty with no multisample and says nothing  . Cakewalk over to you - totally perplexed... thanks..
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 01:34:37
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Hello there! Had anybody some error messages when installing packs 1 and 3. Some programs are missed. Reinstalling and reloading those packs doesn't help. As I remember the wrong source file names are "90?s pianos" instead of "90's pianos" and "I don?t think so" with the same question mark instead of ' apostrophe. Please any advice.
post edited by midiaddict - 2015/04/29 07:46:25
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finalymetten
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 02:41:13
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There is a problem with the Expansion packs (Dimension Pro (Legacy) and Rapture (Legacy)). For none Cakewalk Soundbanks (DSF, Biolabs, etc.) the samples are not mapped correct (to the 'Legacy' Multisamples folder). As Doktor Avalanche descripted you get no sound. To fix this you can copy all the additional samples to the Rapture Pro folder, but I think that is not the solution. For me that takes +10 GB of extra disk space. I think remapping the patches would be the best solution.
An alert 'Samples not found' would be nice too.
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SteveStrummerUK
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 03:05:40
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Doktor Avalanche
Confirmed nothing working under Gibson Les Paul Gold Top either. I see the text and everything just no playback.
I am seeing exactly the same - see my post #45 in this thread.
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jih64
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 03:28:41
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Doktor Avalanche
Confirmed nothing working under Gibson Les Paul Gold Top either. I see the text and everything just no playback.
I am seeing exactly the same - see my post #45 in this thread.
It's fixable, but a bit time consuming, I'll just wait to see if there is a better way soon, besides they are still available through D Pro so no rush for me
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 03:39:19
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 09:14:02
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Can the hosts please move all of these Rapture Pro threads to the Cakewalk Instruments forum where they belong ?
TIA.
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groverken
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 11:30:50
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Same issues for me here with some, but not all, of my legacy expansions.
Windows 10 (64-bit), Cakewalk by BandLab, ASUS Z170-A, Intel i7 6700k, ATI Radeon R5 230 2048Mb, 32GB RAM, 500GB SDD system drive, 2 250GB SSD samples drives, 2TB HDD, Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 (2nd generation), M-Audio Oxygen25, Korg i5M, Rapture Pro, Z3TA+2, SampleTank 3, BFD (2&3), Addictive Drums (1&2), EZdrummer2, MusicLab Real Guitar, EZmix2, Ozone 7 Elements, Neutron Elements, Overloud TH2, AmpliTube, T-RackS, Waves singles, Harrison Mixbus 4, Acoustica 7 Premium.Fender Stratocaster.
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Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 11:39:13
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paulo
Can the hosts please move all of these Rapture Pro threads to the Cakewalk Instruments forum where they belong ?
TIA.
I'll move them over.
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/29 11:47:02
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Okay, I did a mass migration of the Rapture Pro threads from the SONAR forum.
This will help us keep a better eye on specific issues for their respective products.
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Anderton
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/30 23:17:08
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Doktor Avalanche
I suspect you are using the same hard drive as the OS for your multisamples and that's why you don't see the issue. I believe it downloads, validates and extracts on the C drive (from a RAR archive). That all works fine.
However if your multisample folder is on a different drive it then moves the extracted files across which can take a long time depending on the hardware. There is no progress bar when this happens and it can take ages. If it's on the same hard drive it will take seconds and you won't see the issue. Well that's my theory, and that's why you probably are not seeing the problem.
I said I would follow up with my desktop computer, which installs samples on a separate, dedicated G: external USB drive. Referring to the screen shot, the CCC extracted to the G: drive. There is a progress bar, and it does show the extraction progress to the external drive. After reaching the end of the progress bar, it took under 2 seconds to return to the "click here to continue" screen. I do not know why you experience problems and I don't, but your theory didn't pan out here. After what happened last time I proposed a theory I hesitate to try again, but here it is anyway: maybe AT&T is your internet provider  
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/30 23:36:37
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It wasn't a theory at least at my end- I used procmon to confirm the behaviour. All packs behaved exactly the same way. I had to install each pack individually. I ending up installing one pack twice, I probably aborted it prematurely first time around. What happens in my instance is that it downloads the updates to the D drive from the internet (as set in my CCC). So try setting your downloaded updates to another drive to see if you behaviour changes (and try it on the same drive as the ultimate destination). It then copies and extracts a RAR achive to a temp drive in the user account area, on the C drive. All throughout we get progress bars. Once done it then moves these extracted files to the D drive where they belong (yup from D drive to C drive and then back to D!), this does not show a progress bar, rather an orange animation scrolling left to right where the progress bar is. Finally it states it is complete. > After reaching the end of the progress bar, it took under 2 seconds to return to the "click here to continue" screen. This is where you get the "animated" orange progress bar that scrolls from left to right. For you it took 2 seconds, for me it took an hour at least with one of the packs, hence no issue for you. Again I know this is a stage where files gets moved from the C drive to the D drive - I used procman to confirm it and watched the files get moved from the temp folder to the destination with my own eyes.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/04/30 23:47:07
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/30 23:43:31
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I edited the above a number of times.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/04/30 23:54:22
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Anyway the developer will know what I'm talking about, when it does the left to right animation thingy just before completion it is doing something (as stated earlier)...that's where we need another progress indicator. For some it lasts two seconds, for others it takes an hour. It's that simple really.
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/05/02 00:11:23
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Doktor Avalanche
It wasn't a theory at least at my end Well, you did present what you said was your theory in post #43...honest, I do read your posts: Doktor AvalancheI suspect you are using the same hard drive as the OS for your multisamples and that's why you don't see the issue. I believe it downloads, validates and extracts on the C drive (from a RAR archive). That all works fine.
However if your multisample folder is on a different drive it then moves the extracted files across which can take a long time depending on the hardware. There is no progress bar when this happens and it can take ages. If it's on the same hard drive it will take seconds and you won't see the issue. Well that's my theory, and that's why you probably are not seeing the problem. As my multisamples folder was on a different drive, that met the conditions you described. However, it now seems what you actually meant to say was that there were three drive operations involved - the D drive you download to, the temp extraction to the C drive, and then the transfer back to the D drive. Right? If that's the case, I won't try to confirm because everything is installed and working correctly, so I don't want to have to do it all over again. I'll just make a mental note not to download to a drive other than the C drive, and store the multisamples on that same non-C drive.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Rapture Pro now in CCC
2015/05/02 11:37:55
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Fair point about the "theory" comment. I keep revising my "story" based on your comments. If I were to learn lessons here I should have posted my entire CCC environmental settings (or somebody could have triggered me to do so), there are quite a lot of factors and some of this is new territory for me. At least stuff is possibly being ruled out... one by one... it's troubleshooting. It's really one though for Cakewalk QA/developers to fix, there is definitely an issue and they fully know what's going on behind the scenes. The main problem is that the final step (just before the "completed" indicator) needs a progress bar and/or some sort of optimization when downloads and installs are on different drives. Cake QA can have a go at testing this I'm sure they have virtual environments for it.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/05/02 11:44:07
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