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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 06:14:28
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 11:24:50
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Is MIDI keyboard needed to program this thing, or I can use mouse of my laptop to program my BUBBLES? I have one thing to say about this.... PLAY! Those plugins won't help you getting the music you hear in your mind..they might provide you some sounds for the job but someone got to play them. Keyboard Reggae parts (and the music itself) are pretty simple..even the BASS player often do more decisions of which note to play when ;) some nice basslines there. Keyboardists can be creative here and there but they're kind of stuck in a bubble most of the times Yes, you'll need a keyboard for playing chords..harmony can't be played (realtime..practical) using a mouse. Anything you do with a mouse is slow and it's like data entry..(boring database input..no groove..just fields and fields..;) Any program that offers playing the part for you might sound boring after a while (like auto-rhythms on portable keyboards) so consider learning some chords on a keyboard - think about it, less time to master the program to do what you want and more time spent on YOU playing the chords you want to hear, realtime variations...human feel.. the proud feeling of "it's my playing there"..etc.
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Yeppe
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 16:30:18
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I ment not to play with the mouse in real time, just wanted to make a bubble clip to my own reggae song, which I could copy to my sequencer. I used a drum machine which I programmed to play reggae style, then I played myself a lead guitar and rhythm guitar too, but song lacks of keyboard (my damned bubbles), also it lacks Bass, but bubbles I want so much (I´m a bubble man with this trouble  ). Thanks. KR: Yeppe
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 21:01:02
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I ment not to play with the mouse in real time, just wanted to make a bubble clip I know you didn't mean "realtime" playing but I tried to force you learning to play on a real keyboard  I said it's not practical but of course many still use the Piano ROll view and such to enter notes one by one..figuring out what's the current note that is needed and mouse cursor position..time and pitch.. i see it as a waste of time compared to just playing the part. I mentioned on page 1 the kind of softwares that create for you the actual MIDI events ("just like" playing) after you feed them the right rules - you choose a styles and then of course you need to insert the CHORD symbols..the software got to know which chords you want it to follow..the harmony of the song..chord progressions :) Band in a Box...Jammer Pro .. not sure you'll like them (hint..hint..use Sonar and a keyboard..get better at the keyboard..oops i'm doing the same thing again..can't resist!) Well, it's practical for some..maybe you'd like those kind of programs after all. There's some setting up to do there if you want to hear sounds from softsynths..like any sequencer the sound quality depends on what else you got there..and know how to use!
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 21:08:49
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 21:15:58
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If that's reggae I'm Jimi Hendrix Ognis just "tested" me.. Two chords of a guitar located on or in between some beats somewhere in a single measure doesn't mean it's Reggae..every kid knows that
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/21 21:21:47
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Reggae is and should always have a very strong melodic base line. Everything else should float over that.
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Honest_Al
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 08:49:59
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ORIGINAL: mwbrown Reggae is and should always have a very strong melodic base line. Everything else should float over that. strong..yeah pretty much..I would say that the basslines there are important but MELODY comes first place in most cases. for example, can you imagine "regular people" (not musicians) singing or thinking about the bass of Bob Marley's "Is this love"? just hum the song for a few seconds.. http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+marley/is+this+love_20021758.html I'm pretty sure that like most other great tunes (didn't want to say "different styles of music"..who cares about styles) the melody is the most important..that's where it really shines for most of the listeners..and I do love grooves and good bass ..i'm not saying they don't have their share...
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 09:17:33
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So is someone gonna post some bubble in a midi format so the rest of us can get started on our remixes? thanks, mike
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 10:27:23
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If that's reggae I'm Jimi Hendrix It isn't, so you're not! That's 'True' by Spandau Ballet over a funkydrummer sample with some new vocals. Hideous. Some bubbles would have been good though.....
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 11:29:01
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ORIGINAL: mike_mccue So is someone gonna post some bubble in a midi format so the rest of us can get started on our remixes? thanks, mike Here's a piano roll image showing two measures of the example that I gave on page one (Don't Worry - Organ 1): The right hand plays the higher octave chord on beats 2 and 4, while the left hand plays the lower octave chord on the eights of each measure. Notice that all notes are not equal in lenght and do not fall precisely on the designated time lines. No human plays with that sort of precision. The pattern can be varied here and there to suit the flow of the song. The MIDI track can be used to drive any organ VSTi, even the organ patches in TTS-1 that comes with Sonar. If you're not a keyboard player, notes can be insreted one at a time and then use the various MIDI editing tools to humanize the pattern.
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 11:58:40
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Bubbles? This is the guy you want for bubbles. Turn offa da bubble machine. Wunerfull, wunerfull.
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 12:22:01
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Thanks debro, I'm bubbling now: reggae_bubble.mp3 308kB I was also thinking of the champange bubbles. Probably because I watch Lawrence Welk reruns most every Saturday evening. Sometimes I play along with my guitar. mike
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Yeppe
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 16:27:50
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Ohhhhhhh, Yeeeeeeeeah! After I wrote enough many times about bubbles, people started to like them    I should be a salesman  Honest Al, you should be a sales person too, as today, I went to a music store and I ordered one Korg Triton TR-61. He offered me a deal that I couldn´t leave....Dunno much about keyboards (or what ever it is, maybe it´s called Synth, Sampler, Keyboard or Piano - sorry, but I´m a guitarist), but I´ll study how to play BUBBLES   . I´ll bubble, and I´ll bubble loud untill police come to nock my door  . Many thanks for your replies. Regards, Yeppe
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Honest_Al
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 17:35:43
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one of their bigger hits named "Gold".. LOL!! I meant "True" but I was thinking about Gold at the same time!
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/22 17:41:31
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Honest Al, you should be a sales person too, as today, I went to a music store and I ordered one Korg Triton TR-61. He offered me a deal that I couldn´t leave....Dunno much about keyboards (or what ever it is, maybe it´s called Synth, Sampler, Keyboard or Piano - sorry, but I´m a guitarist), but I´ll study how to play BUBBLES . I´ll bubble, and I´ll bubble loud untill police come to nock my door . WOW Yeppe!...great news, good luck with the new keyboard! ROCK ON...err.. I mean Reggae on ;)
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/23 17:38:54
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ORIGINAL: jamesg1213 If that's reggae I'm Jimi Hendrix It isn't, so you're not! That's 'True' by Spandau Ballet over a funkydrummer sample with some new vocals. Hideous. Some bubbles would have been good though..... OMG! I feel so so stupid for not realising that :0}
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/25 16:47:56
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I saw a blurb in Keyboard Magazine about a product called Propellerhead Raggaeton ReFill, which might be of interest. I don't know any more about it than the 1-paragraph description in the magazine. The photo shows three modules: "melody box", "riddim box" and "sound box" so I gather it's a sequencer and tone generator. It appears to be an addon for Reason. Propellerhead Software
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Honest_Al
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/25 23:32:33
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It appears to be an addon for Reason A Refill is always for Reason..it's simply a set of sounds for it (could be bank with audio loops, wav files organized into instruments and synth presets) Reason doesn't have any built-in chord rules or chart (simple chord symbols) to MIDI functions..so unlike the other programs I mentioned you can't "tell it the chords" and let it render a pattern for you using its sounds.
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 04:54:43
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I saw a blurb in Keyboard Magazine about a product called Propellerhead Raggaeton ReFill, which might be of interest. I don't know any more about it than the 1-paragraph description in the magazine. The photo shows three modules: "melody box", "riddim box" and "sound box" so I gather it's a sequencer and tone generator. It appears to be an addon for Reason. Propellerhead Software Reggaeton has more of a spanish influence with a mixture of hip-hop and dancehall (upbeat, dance-friendly reggae). But i must admit that Reason has a wide range of sounds, out of the box, and includes effect to bubble untill he gets into trouble. i just hope the cops dont knock down his door.
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 09:05:33
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"i just hope the cops dont knock down his door." ???????? because of Reggae? I don't get it. best, mike
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 12:13:19
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"i just hope the cops dont knock down his door." ???????? because of Reggae? I don't get it. best, mike Reggae is dangerous. Who knows what could happen if it caught on? Studies have shown that reggae is a "gateway" genre, often leading to appreciation for even more insidious forms of happy pop music. First you put people in a good mood, then before you know it, nobody's depressed anymore and what happens to Goth Metal then?
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 17:32:06
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Ah I see the poster is from Brooklyn.... I think it was an insider comment about how people from Jamaica get treated in Brooklyn. I'm sorry if anyone thought I was making light of that. But Bitflipper I like where you took the thought. Nice save. best, mike
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 17:50:12
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Power to the people.. this thread will never die!
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 18:01:50
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ORIGINAL: mike_mccue Ah I see the poster is from Brooklyn.... I think it was an insider comment about how people from Jamaica get treated in Brooklyn. I'm sorry if anyone thought I was making light of that. But Bitflipper I like where you took the thought. Nice save. best, mike And I thought it was just in reply to the OP's quote from Post #44: I´ll bubble, and I´ll bubble loud untill police come to nock my door . -Susan
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RE: Reggae Bubble???
2007/05/26 18:14:40
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Oh Susan, I like that a lot better. thanks, mike
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