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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/27 22:19:14 (permalink)
Hi vladasyn,
I'll send you a PM and see if we can get to the bottom of your issues.  I'll likely need more info - but we can take it offline in the PM.  Thanks!
~Bob Currie
 
vladasyn
Why dont you fix MIDI triggering wrong tracks and sending MIDI to All tracks when supposed to send to one, and Play button triggering last played MIDI notes? It is so frustrating to always wondering, "Why do I hear this Drum loop when I am on Synth instrument?" Or be startled when all tracks suddenly get triggered without warning by pressing a key. You just keep fixing minor things that never even happening. I get shut with uncontrollable amount of sound in my ears unexpectedly when I press a key on keyboard because all tracks get triggered instead of one, but you dont think it is something to worry about? What about Stop button being grayed out when using Kontakt instrument? Ok, it only happens with Sequence, but would you not want to know how they did it and help them fix it? Now that you collaborating with Big Fish Audio- Sequence is their product. What about fixing Copy/Paste function? For no reason, it just does not Paste. When are you planning to address it? Thank you. 




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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/27 23:39:31 (permalink)
Looking good, Thanks bakers!!!!!

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 01:58:13 (permalink)
Anyone know where the PDF documentation is for my FX Chains?

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 01:59:25 (permalink)
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 02:50:22 (permalink)
After installation, of the loops just cut and paste from C:\Cakewalk Content\Audio Library\Big Fish Audio to another drive if you have one or folder. Or before downloading change the CCC and tell it where to install.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 03:08:53 (permalink)
Trying out the country loops under play preview and they are playing perfectly. When loaded into a track they sound distorted and not very good. Other loops I have form BigFish are playing ok.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 10:10:46 (permalink)
Some of the loops that came with this update sound pretty good actually .
I enjoy playing along with them and stealing every lick I can nab from them 
Then I play them on my Axe the way I would play them for how I would use them with the notes I want to use ...good practice for playing in all different keys ..
Also enjoy nabbing the tones . IMHO , it's a good practice to recreate some of the effects and tones they used on the loops inside of SONAR . Like to do that w some of my tracks that are still dry...sort of like how people use a reference mix ....except for production tones . Nothing is safe around here so I will nab those tones too 
Hey what the heck , people pay good money for those type of loops . I might as well get on the fast track to the gravy train
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 12:16:58 (permalink)
skinnybones lampshade
Could someone remind me, in as simple (non-IT expert) 



I just cut folder where it was installed and and pasted in secondary drive folder.
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 12:20:17 (permalink)
kennywtelejazz
Some of the loops that came with this update sound pretty good actually .
Kenny



There's a number of free ones on Big Fish Audio web site.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/28 15:48:16 (permalink)
I too noticed some loops were "ring modulated" in sound in the preview.  Not many but a couple.  I just moved on and don't remember which ones, as at this point, I'm sure there are going to be 10 people using these loops to make a song...and they'll all sound alike!    ....i.e.   Like the country files had .wav A-D, denoting which instrument files go with which.  ...in effect creating a whole verse, in a multi track kinda way... etc.  Nothing musically you're really going to change drastically.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/29 15:25:52 (permalink)
I have everything updated but I'm not seeing a new amp or cab in TH3.
Am I missing something (other than a amp and cap) in order to get these items?
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/29 18:08:36 (permalink)
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Anyone know where the PDF documentation is for my FX Chains?




Can anyone reply , i want to read these :)
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/29 19:43:59 (permalink)
danbottomburp
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Anyone know where the PDF documentation is for my FX Chains?

Can anyone reply , i want to read these :)
and thanks Craig
Dan 


I did reply... Immediately after.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/29 19:49:38 (permalink)
OK. I specifically let it install the BigFish loops (and it took a long time), but I can't find them anywhere? I looked in C:\Cakewalk Content\Audio Library. Not there. 
 
Update:
OK I found them... it put them in my Wave file folder. Why not in Cakewalk Content? Bizarre.
post edited by daveny5 - 2017/10/29 20:28:27

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/29 21:14:58 (permalink)
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Anyone know where the PDF documentation is for my FX Chains?

Can anyone reply , i want to read these :)
and thanks Craig
Dan 


I did reply... Immediately after.




It's a good idea to quote  the post you're replying to so people can see it clearer. 
I had no idea you were replying to Craig, just looked like a random post to me and that's why I had to ask. 
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 02:22:38 (permalink)
Is there a Tech+Music issue for this? I haven't been able to find it.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 16:45:37 (permalink)
fitzj
Trying out the country loops under play preview and they are playing perfectly. When loaded into a track they sound distorted and not very good. Other loops I have form BigFish are playing ok.



If you are using one of the full song wave files they might be detected as a loop. If that is the case it will possibly sound unusual when played back since all the data is being compressed into a small amount of time. Select the clip and turn off looping by pressing Ctrl+L to see if this is the case.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 16:48:18 (permalink)
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OK. I specifically let it install the BigFish loops (and it took a long time), but I can't find them anywhere? I looked in C:\Cakewalk Content\Audio Library. Not there. 
Update:
OK I found them... it put them in my Wave file folder. Why not in Cakewalk Content? Bizarre.



It is important for new customers to be able to find the loops so these are installed automatically into the Audio Library folder which is also accessible from the Browser. If you have modified this location it may no longer be inside Cakewalk Content.
 
The normal install path looks like this:
c:\Cakewalk Content\Big Fish Audio

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 16:53:07 (permalink)
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I have everything updated but I'm not seeing a new amp or cab in TH3.
Am I missing something (other than a amp and cap) in order to get these items?
 
Grum.



You only need to install the 2017.10 update to have the new TH3 Amp. You may also need to rescan the plug-in for it to be updated as well. If you go to Edit | Preferences | VST Setting and click Scan.
 
In TH3 Cakewalk Edition, you will now have the Overange and British State 2x12.

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Re: ISSUES LOADING THE LATEST UPDATE 2017/10/30 17:21:41 (permalink)
Since August I have had some issues in updating Cakewalk Sonar Platinum Using your enhanced updates in Windows 10. Trying to load the updates I get the following message:
Today I received the following message when trying to open "Cakewalk Sonar Platinum".
 
"The database update facility, failed to run. Please verify that SONAR is loaded correctly"? Can you please advise? Do I have to delete Sonar and reinstall again???? When trying to uninstall I get this error message when opening the software.
 
C:/Program Files (86X)\Cakewalk\Command
Center\Cakewalk-Command_Center.exe
 An error occurred while trying to rename a file in the destination
Directory:
MoveFile failed; code 183
Cannot create a file when that file already exists.
 
Click Retry to try again, ignore to skip this file (not recommended), or Abort to cancel installation.
 
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 17:23:50 (permalink)
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Grumbleweed_
I have everything updated but I'm not seeing a new amp or cab in TH3.
Am I missing something (other than a amp and cap) in order to get these items?
 
Grum.



You only need to install the 2017.10 update to have the new TH3 Amp. You may also need to rescan the plug-in for it to be updated as well. If you go to Edit | Preferences | VST Setting and click Scan.
 
In TH3 Cakewalk Edition, you will now have the Overange and British State 2x12.


I scan on opening but scanned again anyway - no Amp and no Cab. I can see them lurking alongside all of the other unpurchased items but they are not available. I reiterate that everything is showing as up to date in my Command Centre so any other thoughts?
Am I the only one here with this problem?
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 19:37:50 (permalink)
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Is there any way to get back or replicate the old behaviour?

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/30 20:54:34 (permalink)
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Trying out the country loops under play preview and they are playing perfectly. When loaded into a track they sound distorted and not very good. Other loops I have form BigFish are playing ok.

 
I'm not at my studio, but it seemed to me that these loops did not follow the Project key until they were dragged into a track lane.  I can check again when I get home but it seemed that way.  Anyone can confirm one way or the other?
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/10/31 22:40:55 (permalink)
daveny5
OK. I specifically let it install the BigFish loops (and it took a long time), but I can't find them anywhere? I looked in C:\Cakewalk Content\Audio Library. Not there. 
 
Update:
OK I found them... it put them in my Wave file folder. Why not in Cakewalk Content? Bizarre.


 
My Big Fish Loops went to my D:\ drive, because that's where I have Sonar looking for All of my loops.
 
In Sonar Preferences > File > Folder Locations: Wave Files: (Look at your file path) mine points to D:\

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Re: ISSUES LOADING THE LATEST UPDATE 2017/11/01 13:17:22 (permalink)
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 An error occurred while trying to rename a file in the destination

That's a Windows permissions problem. The installer was unable to rename a file before overwriting it with a new version. Try running CCC as Administrator. While that shouldn't be necessary (I don't do it), there is something unusual about your Windows perms that's getting in the way.
 


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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/01 17:00:52 (permalink)
Interesting.  Those loops do not show anywhere for me.  I would at least like to try them.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/03 03:29:56 (permalink)
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Is there a Tech+Music issue for this? I haven't been able to find it.



There will be no more issues that I know of, because I am no longer with Gibson. Although I listed a lot of people in the masthead, it was 90% a one-man show. Unless someone at Cakewalk takes it over, it's not going to happen.
 
I apologize to all those trying to figure out how to make the most out of loops; tips on making music with loops was going to be the feature story in the next issue. However, at least after being fired I did provide the 30 FX Chains and the documentation for same...I thought the community would appreciate that.
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/03 07:59:13 (permalink)
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TimV
 
Is there a Tech+Music issue for this? I haven't been able to find it.



There will be no more issues that I know of, because I am no longer with Gibson.  
 
However, at least after being fired ......


Uhhmmmmmm.............. WHAT??? And yeah, the emphasis in the quote is mine, not Craig's.
 
I knew you were gone, Craig.... but, uhhhh, not like that. Holy sh****!!
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/03 10:03:29 (permalink)
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Is there a Tech+Music issue for this? I haven't been able to find it.


The web page says there is, but it links to last month's (2017.09). Isssuuuu (or whatever it's called) reports no find on a direct search for 2017.10. So, it's classified, it seems.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/03 10:24:29 (permalink)
I want to make perfectly clear that there is no truth whatsoever in the non-existent rumour that Mr. Anderton was summarily dismissed for inappropriately touching Mr. Juszkiewicz in a hotel room in Nashville on 1st April 1957. If any such touching did take place, I certainly don't remember it, and it is likely that this scurrilous allegation was nefariously promulgated by supporters of the discredited Epiphone government, who now face arrest under charges of rebellion and other badness, just as soon as I can find someone to sign this EuroArrest Warrant (TM). There is thought to be some truth in the rumour that Gibson touched the aforementioned Epiphone but there is no suggestion that this was not consensual. Although there is no Magic Money Tree and we live in a Mad World, I am pleased that Craig will carry on entertaining and helping us even without Gibson's beneficence. I am on my way to buy the cheapest Les Paul ever - cheap because Orville Gibson, Seth Lover and Lester Polfus were allowed nowhere near it - and along the way I hope to mature enough never again to give into temptation, not least the temptation to attempt weak satire.
 
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