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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/03 19:57:46 (permalink)
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/04 03:48:59 (permalink)
Yeh! I thought it was a pretty good attempt at satire Chris.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/06 23:47:26 (permalink)
Just updated but not seeing the Big Fish content in CC at all.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/07 04:48:55 (permalink)
bladetragicJust updated but not seeing the Big Fish content in CC at all.

If it doesn't show up after restarting CCC then click on the cog-wheel button near the top, right of CCC and click the "Logout" button. Then log in again.
 
This sometimes helps to refresh the list.
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/07 20:56:26 (permalink)
 
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/08 02:05:15 (permalink)
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bladetragicJust updated but not seeing the Big Fish content in CC at all.

If it doesn't show up after restarting CCC then click on the cog-wheel button near the top, right of CCC and click the "Logout" button. Then log in again.
 
This sometimes helps to refresh the list.
 




Tried this. Still not showing up.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/08 04:25:55 (permalink)
bladetragicTried this. Still not showing up.

 
Does it show up in the list on your "My Products" page?

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/08 04:34:43 (permalink)
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bladetragicTried this. Still not showing up.

 
Does it show up in the list on your "My Products" page?




No it doesn't.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/08 04:45:56 (permalink)
bladetragicNo it doesn't.

 
What version of Sonar are you using?
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/10 09:49:22 (permalink)
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Is there any way to get back or replicate the old behaviour?




 Didn't see a response to this.  Does anyone know? 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/12 18:55:19 (permalink)
If you are not a loop user. You can just select the things you want. Just don't select all then. They are in yellow. So just update sonar program and not the loops that are in yellow.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/15 07:04:29 (permalink)
I appreciate the Big Fish Audio loops in this update, but why does SPlat still bring loops in at the wrong tempo?! It brings them in set to "loop", and plays them at the wrong tempo (usually, too fast) and pitch unless you un-check "loop". This happens with all loops, not just the Big Fish Audio ones, and it goes back to at least Sonar X1. SPlat also previews loops at the wrong tempo and pitch if you have "Preview at Host Tempo" selected. This happens only with .WAV files, from what I've seen; .REX files work properly, but that's only due to the nature of their construction.
 
And why the hell does SPlat drop loops more than 100 measures into the song, even if you drag them to the beginning?! Again, this is with every .WAV loop I've ever tried, going back to X1. 
 
Finally, where is the license information for the loops? There's nothing in the folder and nothing on the "2017.10 Update" pages. The links for "Learn more about Big Fish Audio Loop Content" and "Support Information" (in "My Products") only bring you back to Cakewalk.com.
 
I tried to search this forum for information on this, but got way too many unrelated questions about where to buy loops and how to set the tempo for projects.
 
Thanks!
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 01:00:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby planetearth 2017/11/16 02:31:47
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I appreciate the Big Fish Audio loops in this update, but why does SPlat still bring loops in at the wrong tempo?! It brings them in set to "loop", and plays them at the wrong tempo (usually, too fast) and pitch unless you un-check "loop". This happens with all loops, not just the Big Fish Audio ones, and it goes back to at least Sonar X1.

 
When I bring Groove Clips (Acidized) loops into SONAR, they always conform to tempo, especially all the Big Fish ones. With WAV files that don't have that metadata, anything's possible.
 
SPlat also previews loops at the wrong tempo and pitch if you have "Preview at Host Tempo" selected.

 
Make sure you set the default Groove Clip pitch properly.
 
REX files work properly, but that's only due to the nature of their construction.

 
Yes and no. They include metadata for tempo, but not for pitch. 
 
And why the hell does SPlat drop loops more than 100 measures into the song, even if you drag them to the beginning?!

 
Probably because they're time-stamped BWF. In Preferences, turn off the option to import BWF waves at their time stamp.
 
Finally, where is the license information for the loops? There's nothing in the folder and nothing on the "2017.10 Update" pages. The links for "Learn more about Big Fish Audio Loop Content" and "Support Information" (in "My Products") only bring you back to Cakewalk.com.

 
I searched on "Big Fish Audio license agreement" and this was the top hit.
 
For more about using loops, please see my upcoming Sound on Sound column on using the BFA loops. I think it's slated for publication in either the December or January issue.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 03:03:28 (permalink)
Thanks, Craig!
 
It was a combination of the default Groove Clip pitch and the time-stamp import preference (two things I've never touched in Sonar) that was causing the problem! I set the default Groove Clip pitch to "None" (I don't know why Cakewalk set it to "C") and I un-checked the time-stamp import preference. Now, the BFA clips (and others) work as expected. And now I can tell my fellow Sonar users in other forums, who've also had this problem!
 
I'll admit I didn't search BFA's website about the license, because I didn't know if the license would be modified since Cakewalk is giving away the loops, and some don't seem to be "complete". Thanks for the tip on that. Still, I think Cakewalk should have included some documentation with the loops.
 
And thanks for the FX Chains Collection in last month's update! I'm still exploring them, but they've been giving me some good ideas for tracks.
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 03:32:53 (permalink)
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I'll admit I didn't search BFA's website about the license, because I didn't know if the license would be modified since Cakewalk is giving away the loops, and some don't seem to be "complete". Thanks for the tip on that. Still, I think Cakewalk should have included some documentation with the loops.



They were depending on me to provide that, but I was fired from Gibson before I could finish it...sorry.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 05:50:52 (permalink)
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I'll admit I didn't search BFA's website about the license, because I didn't know if the license would be modified since Cakewalk is giving away the loops, and some don't seem to be "complete". Thanks for the tip on that. Still, I think Cakewalk should have included some documentation with the loops.



They were depending on me to provide that, but I was fired from Gibson before I could finish it...sorry.


Are you serious?! Geez, I'm sorry, Craig.
 
It's no big deal, really. I think we can all figure out the tempos and anything else we need for the loops. 
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 12:30:18 (permalink)
I guess Steve just needed a Snickers bar.
LOL. (no offence intended)
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/16 17:22:35 (permalink)
Anderton
 
 
Probably because they're time-stamped BWF. In Preferences, turn off the option to import BWF waves at their time stamp.
 



ahh.. I wish I had read this 2 days ago....  never really worked with loops, only the occasional one shot, and my mind is working overtime from what I'm hearing and learning. The possibilities seem endless. Yeh, I know...still living in the past..


I'm looking forward to your SOS article Craig ...bring it on..

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/18 14:00:40 (permalink)
Sorry to say it would be a downgrade for me because of the PRV problems.
Still sticking with 2017.01 until the PRV is made to be as functional or better.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/18 16:42:40 (permalink)
There are No big fish showing up for me either?? Does anyone have a solution for this .. I tried refreshing/ log out in ccc but nothing..  I am using the 17/10 update. 
 
Thx!
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/18 18:30:50 (permalink)
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There are No big fish showing up for me either?? Does anyone have a solution for this .. I tried refreshing/ log out in ccc but nothing..  I am using the 17/10 update. 
 
Thx!




Still not showing up for me either.  I happen to have an NFR copy of Sonar.  So that could be the issue for me, even though it's never been a problem in the past. Still haven't found a solution though.
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/19 15:49:54 (permalink)
The Big Fish content gets downloaded to the Audio folder defined in "P" into a folder called "Big Fish"
 

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 12:47:20 (permalink)
Ok so now when opening up a new project from a template, it doesn´t ask anymore for song info (title, BPM etc)
That was actually really handy. Any idea if this can be turned on again somewhere? Didn´t see it in preferences....

Agree with the problem of noise on all synth tracks that get´s triggered sometimes from one midi track that´s not routed to those synth tracks. I must have lost a couple of dB´s in my hearing after a couple of those moments... 
 
Also, sometimes all midi tracks just deciding to route somewhere completely different out of nowhere. Not funny in a 500 track orchestral template..... 
 
Besides that I must say SONAR has been running very very stable for the last year. Can´t even remember when I had my last crash!
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 12:51:18 (permalink)
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Ok so now when opening up a new project from a template, it doesn´t ask anymore for song info (title, BPM etc)
That was actually really handy. Any idea if this can be turned on again somewhere? Didn´t see it in preferences....

Yeah, I'd like to have this back as an option too.

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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 13:08:02 (permalink)
Actually, I just found out that if you open a new project via File -> New...  it does gives you those options, besides the option to select a template!
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 17:10:55 (permalink)
so, is this the last update ever?
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 17:48:54 (permalink)
Just read about that. It seems so. Sad times....
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 17:49:18 (permalink)
I had a product in the early 90's when the company I worked for went out of business. I continued to support my users for another year, although in those days there was no convenient mechanism for distributing updates, so users had to ask for them and get the files via email. But I was able to end it with a stable release that could still be running today somewhere.
 
This worked because I had the source, and it didn't occur to the corporate buffoons (who'd run the company into the ground) that the source code might be an asset (unlike my Sun workstation, which I'd hoped they'd forget about but didn't). Consequently, nobody gave me any flack about it.
 
Cakewalk's source code is its most valuable asset, more so than even the Cakewalk trademarks. Gibson will hold a garage sale to recover whatever they can for computers and office furniture, but it's the source that has real cash value. It could be sold along with the company name and trademarks, it could be sold to a competitor for parts, or individual products could be sold to other vendors. (Dimension Pro by MOTU? Microsoft Rapture?)
 
Here's my hope: that Gibson is so anxious to unload its software business that it dumps the SONAR source for a song, that it then gets adopted by ex-Cakewalk staff who continue to work on it. This is actually do-able by scaling down the operation. A single person or a two-man collaboration could manage it, and earn a decent living doing it.
 
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Re: SONAR 2017.10 Update Now Available! 2017/11/21 18:18:18 (permalink)
bitflipper, I agree about the source being where the value is. Gibson should let the transition team crowdsource this thing...If nothing else...jump into boutique crowdsource SPLAT with a small dev team. I'm sure users would fund this in a matter of days. 
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