Buddy110
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 13:57:03
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wow...thanks a lot guys....glad you like em! Jose, the file only patches the graphics in the dll, so if and when cake update 7 or 8, the same patch should work on all updates (unless they recode the UI graphics in 7 or 8, which is very doubtful). I'm using vista 64 myself and no problems at all. I had the x64 bit version of sonar 7 installed since the get go, but just today I installed the x32 bit version instead as some of my old plugs didn't work and i got tired of some other bitbridge probs. and yes, the exe file needs to be inside the same folder as the TTSRes DLL file (for simplicity's sake). OT: The other thing i found is using a custom theme on vista x64 looks better for audio stuff (less distracting details). I personally use a customized version of "Zune" which was ported to vista. it gives vista a sleek XP style. if your interested, there is a great tutorial + link to themes HERE. On my XP machine, I use the "RoyalFour" (black) which is gorgeous imho kubalibre, I'm using sonar 7, so if you want to upload the sonar 8 x64 dll and send a link in an PM or something (you can use 7-zip or winrar to compress it down to 2MB +/-) ...then i can use it as a reference for the patch and upload it here for everyone.
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 17:48:49
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Hey Buddy; Thanks from me for your work on this. Much appreciated.
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Jose7822
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 18:02:25
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Buddy110, Thanks a lot! I actually like the look of Vista the way it is, but thanks for the suggestion. On my XP machine, I use Vista Inspirat 2 which makes it look very slick: http://www.vista-inspirat.net/ Take care!
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 18:02:32
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OT: The other thing i found is using a custom theme on vista x64 looks better for audio stuff (less distracting details). I personally use a customized version of "Zune" which was ported to vista. it gives vista a sleek XP style. if your interested, there is a great tutorial + link to themes HERE. On my XP machine, I use the "RoyalFour" (black) which is gorgeous imho This may not be good if it doesn't use the Aero desktop. Its important to keep that going when using a DAW. Sonar will perform better with it on and used. Aero offloads all screen rewrites to the graphics card. This is not true when its not active.
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Jose7822
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 18:14:47
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Hey John, I know you advocate this a lot, but I didn't find that to be true in my case. Sonar actually performs noticably better for me with Aero turned OFF, but I keep it ON because I like it :-P. I'd say this is a YMMV type of deal. Take care!
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 18:23:02
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It could be a question of graphics horsepower. If you have a Vista ready graphics card it should be performing better with it on. You don't need a screaming game video card but it should be up to date. I recommend Nvidia Gforce 8500 GT or better. Those run about $60 with 512mb of on board mem.
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 18:42:54
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Hi Buddy I uploaded the Sonar 8 64bit dll here http://www.speedshare.org/download.php?id=C68C196412 Thanks for doing this! Looking forward to use the fancy faders in Sonar x64 Hope you get hired by CW to work on the user interface! :-) ORIGINAL: Buddy110 kubalibre, I'm using sonar 7, so if you want to upload the sonar 8 x64 dll and send a link in an PM or something (you can use 7-zip or winrar to compress it down to 2MB +/-) ...then i can use it as a reference for the patch and upload it here for everyone.
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Buddy110
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/11 23:58:28
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thanks kubalibre, I've updated my previous post: Here. Hi John, thanks for the info, always good to know. I've read the opposite in a few places on the net though. is this more of a sonar/vista thing? I have aero off mainly for aesthetic purposes (the blue tinge/menu gradients drive me nuts)...even though I have a nvidia 8800gts + 8gb ram 'Vista Inspirat' - very nice! if only the default vista aero had the flat grey area at the top! hmmm..... * walks off to hack vista! lol *
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Jose7822
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/12 01:08:47
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ORIGINAL: John It could be a question of graphics horsepower. If you have a Vista ready graphics card it should be performing better with it on. You don't need a screaming game video card but it should be up to date. I recommend Nvidia Gforce 8500 GT or better. Those run about $60 with 512mb of on board mem. It might be my video adapter since it was rated a 4.0 (the rest got 5.9) on the Vista experience rating deal. I got an ATI Radeon HD 3450 with 256MB of onboard memory which I thought would be more than enough for a DAW but it might not be for Vista :-S. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that not everybody benefits from having Aero ON and I tested this various times with the same results (Aero OFF works better with Sonar on my machine - see signature for details). Take care!
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/12 08:43:07
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Jose this is a problem that we need to get to the bottom of. However we shouldn't do it on this thread. I will do a little research and post a new thread dealing with it if I find some answers.
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/12 11:59:48
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ORIGINAL: Buddy110 Jose, the file only patches the graphics in the dll, so if and when cake update 7 or 8, the same patch should work on all updates (unless they recode the UI graphics in 7 or 8, which is very doubtful). Not as doubtful as you might think... In case you hadn't noticed, the TTSRes17.dll did change between 8.0.1 and 8.0.2...which is why your list of bitmap numbers was particularly helpful. (As it was, I had already discovered all the references that I was interested in the hard way.) Reminds me... An acquaintance of mine has a T-shirt that shows all manner of screwdriver tips, including the "security" types that common civilians aren't supposed to have. The heading reads... I VOID WARRANTIES
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Buddy110
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/12 13:29:12
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afaik sonar 8 still has the same graphics (console wise at least) for the faders since v6 (bar some 'minor' changes) and to be more precise the actual graphic numbers haven't changed at all. hence my statement that updates within a major version are not likely to happen graphically "unless they recode the UI graphics"....meaning assigning the same graphics different numbers...which means tons of man hours recoding....which I doubt will happen, minor tweaks perhaps. the patch can be easily updated to a newer version if needed either ways. but theoretically as the numbers don't change, the relevant patcher will continue aiming at the correct image locations/numbers. just to clarify that further, I'm only talking about the images that my patch changes. not the entire code of the "TTSRes17.dll"...I don't doubt however, that there will be code updates as needed within a major version. as seen from 8 > 8.0.1 > 8.0.2 ... LOL, I have a set of those "security" screwdrivers and put them to use when needed! :)
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kubalibre
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/13 07:34:05
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I can live with that now...called it "ProGUI"
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kubalibre
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/13 07:45:28
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a few miore tweaks to an alternate version.. I also decluttered the interface and gave to buttons logical order (e.g. hide track inspector, right above the track inspector, etc.) Rounded Faders courtesy of Buddy! (thanks again) I call this one "ORANGE BREEZE"
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Rothchild
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/14 04:36:09
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Hey Kubalibre They look sharp, good job. If you'd like me to host them on my site just mail me the .clr files to popworksATgmailDOTcom and I'll get em up for everyone to enjoy. Cheers Child
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/15 21:58:30
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Hello, Does anybody know how to change background and foreground color of the Lyrics screen? Sonar 6, 7, 8... Thanks in advance! Denny
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/16 04:25:39
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Hi Kubalibre, really like your "ProGUI" and would be great if you could give it to Rothchild to host it. Thanks! Wolfgang
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/16 05:24:17
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ORIGINAL: legobeats Hi Kubalibre, really like your "ProGUI" and would be great if you could give it to Rothchild to host it. Thanks! Wolfgang Amen. How do the clip colors look?
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/16 22:41:19
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My first bananish attempt.
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Rothchild
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/17 06:16:11
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Hi OldGeezer If you want to slide that bowl of mashed banana under the door to me at popworksATgmailDOTcom I'll be happy to post it on the site. That's a pretty wild scheme, but I still don't think anyone has come close to Evan's insanity! ;-) Perhaps we could have a challenge for the most eyepopping scheme that still remains usable? Cheers Child
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/17 08:27:45
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I still don't think anyone has come close to Evan's insanity! ;-) That's the kindest thing anyone's said to me in quite a while! Coming from the Child himself, that's gonna make my day! Actually, I was thinking about using the outer dark black-er colors using kubalibre's template and then adding the ROY G BIV track colors as a chewy center. I'll pop 'er up in a few... Thanks, Child, for the note! We really appreciate you hosting all this- Ev
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/17 10:07:52
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Hi KUBALIBRE. I would also really like to have your pro guy with the orange inspector. If you ever decide to share it, that would be cool. Boddy110. Nice faders man... i will install those today -Alxi-
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/17 10:54:38
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ORIGINAL: evansmalley I still don't think anyone has come close to Evan's insanity! ;-) That's the kindest thing anyone's said to me in quite a while! Coming from the Child himself, that's gonna make my day! Actually, I was thinking about using the outer dark black-er colors using kubalibre's template and then adding the ROY G BIV track colors as a chewy center. I'll pop 'er up in a few... Thanks, Child, for the note! We really appreciate you hosting all this- Ev Hey Ev, thanks for taking that in the kindly spirit it was meant in. I'm looking forward to your next scheme! Cheers Child
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/17 14:55:58
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ORIGINAL: Rothchild Hi OldGeezer If you want to slide that bowl of mashed banana under the door to me at popworksATgmailDOTcom I'll be happy to post it on the site. That's a pretty wild scheme, but I still don't think anyone has come close to Evan's insanity! ;-) Perhaps we could have a challenge for the most eyepopping scheme that still remains usable? Cheers Child Thanks Rothchild. I might take you up on that, but if I do, it'll be a while as I've only worked on the tracks view, and in every other respect it's still someone else's theme. I'll see what I can do with the rest of it. Thanks again!
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/19 08:53:55
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Where is the folder where the .clr files are stored?
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/19 13:25:34
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ORIGINAL: vicsant Where is the folder where the .clr files are stored? There isn't one. The .clr files aren't stored anywhere (at least...not as far as SONAR is concerned). They are just a mechanism for importing and exporting color schemes...so you can store them anywhere you want. The actual data is stored in the registry in... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\<version number>\Presets\{6B0298E5-C4B7-4AAF-90EF-B214D18F7654} As a bit of a hack...you can import/export all of your color schemes en-masse (between SONAR versions and/or between machines) by importing/exporting the contents of this registry entry...IF...you're not afraid of messing with the registry.
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vicsant
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/19 18:11:05
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ORIGINAL: dantarbill ORIGINAL: vicsant Where is the folder where the .clr files are stored? There isn't one. The .clr files aren't stored anywhere (at least...not as far as SONAR is concerned). They are just a mechanism for importing and exporting color schemes...so you can store them anywhere you want. The actual data is stored in the registry in... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\<version number>\Presets\{6B0298E5-C4B7-4AAF-90EF-B214D18F7654} As a bit of a hack...you can import/export all of your color schemes en-masse (between SONAR versions and/or between machines) by importing/exporting the contents of this registry entry...IF...you're not afraid of messing with the registry. Thanks Dan. I had some color schemes in S7 which don't appear in the color options of S8. Was wondering how I could get them into S8. I'm not comfortable playing around with the registry so I think I'll leave things as they are
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/19 18:19:30
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Just bring them up in S7 and export, then import them into S8..........no registry tweeking needed.
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vicsant
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RE: SONAR Color Schemes
2008/12/19 22:27:23
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no registry tweeking needed Great. Thanks.
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