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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:18:27 (permalink)
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Tip; Some of you may know this. Windows 10 has the ability to have multiple desktops.



I knew it existed, but didn't know how it worked. Now I do. Thanks!

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:28:47 (permalink)
My Windows 10 upgrade was smooth as well.   I have one plugin that is really slow loading in Sonar but that is the only issue I've had.  Windows startup time is about 3 seconds to login screen and a couple seconds to the desktop.  Everything has been snappy fast compared to Windows 7.  
 
I support about 60 Macs at work and the issues with El Capitan have been pretty bad.  It broke Microsoft Outlook and most of the printer driver installs.  Most users lost their network printers after the upgrade.  Adobe Creative Cloud apps have had issues but that was even with the prior upgrade to Yosemite.  The latest 2015 apps are very buggy with memory leaks. 
 
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:31:51 (permalink)
As far as indexing the newer builds of 10 don't do that as much. In 8 and 8.1 it got on my nerves. In the latest preview build its much less a problem. One thing that should be said because the insider service is still ongoing a lot of feedback is getting back to MS and helping in a big way in making Windows 10 better.
 
Some insiders are DAWs users. They have been active and helpful.   

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:35:50 (permalink)
After many months of Win10 now, my laptop runs smooth and, it seems, faster. But. I still have no control over updates that Microsoft considers critical. They will upload to my laptop no matter what settings I have in place, even though I do have control over when they are installed. The only option is to nuke the network stack if I don't want any interruptions. (Thanks to this forum for providing the method to do this, I used to just pull the plug).
Specific to a 32bit system, my memory usage using Win7 was around 32% after a clean boot, with Win10 I can't seem to get it below 36%. It may not seem like much, but that extra 4% will allow me to use extra FX, and more time in things like Melodyne, Vocal Sync and Drum Replacer. It's taken me a long time to get it to 36%, after the initial install of Win10, memory usage was around 40% and some projects that were particularly memory intense in Win7 refused to run.
I like Win10, just not some parts of it.

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:49:36 (permalink)
Craig,

I have gone for days staying in the green with latency Mon on my laptop.

I have the battery disabled as well as the video driver and everything is great. All green all the time.

The computer is off for a few weeks before going to make a recording. While recording, I'm obviously not doing much beyond tweaking settings in RME TotalMix. The computer decides it is idle and starts doing who knows what. Heavy disk access prevents the smooth writing of the data. RME DigiCheck reports the disk access percentage during the recording.

This is a thread where I brought it up.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3285072

At this show, I only captured about thirty five minutes of music from a two and a half hour show.

Since then, I periodically open the laptop and monitor the disk access. It often starts quiet. After an hour or so it will peg the disk for a while then settle down. A while can be thirty minutes or more.

I haven't had an issue during a recording with a computer I use every day yet. But, if it is a risk, it is a risk. When I go out and run sound for a band in a bar through my RME, it sux to say sorry afterwards. And always the first thing said to me after I have to apologize is, why are you using Windows or you are the only one using Windows.

Last Tuesday, I didn't take my laptop to go out and record. I took the studio cat with monitor and all because I didn't trust Windows on the laptop. I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but so far I haven't heard any issues. Really, this is because I boot the studio cat every day. I don't do this with the laptop. I only use it for recording out. It has been used to record probably more than 100 many track shows over the 9 years I've had it. But I probably have to apologize for a damaged recording or partial recording more than ten percent of the time.

Also, since I'm not pro, it doesn't cost me to apologize.

I've been mixing Tuesday's show using your rock template. It is really fun!

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 18:51:54 (permalink)
John, it is nice that Windows gets more efficient, but only nice.

When I need it to work and stay out of my way there should be a switch, like presentation mode that shutdown wasteful processing that could ruin your work. They do it for people with power point slide decks. Why not us?

I'm totally convinced it isn't a hardware issue. Same computer using Linux works great, but when monitoring through ardour I have the sample buffer latency I don't have monitoring through TotalMix. Also when using TotalMix and DigiCheck, I can raise the buffer for recording to the max without any monitoring delay in the live mix.
post edited by gswitz - 2015/12/25 19:09:41

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 19:07:56 (permalink)
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This may help with presentation mode http://www.tenforums.com/...eate-windows-10-a.html

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 19:14:49 (permalink)
John,

Presentation mode doesn't have to do with display changes.

http://windows.microsoft....-giving-a-presentation

It's about the computer not messing up your presentation by sleeping or misunderstanding how you are using it and installing updates our something.

It is only available on battery driven devices.

Presentation mode may not be the right thing for me to ask for. Live recording mode? That's what would make me feel safer.
post edited by gswitz - 2015/12/25 19:28:39

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 19:19:16 (permalink)
Yes  I guessed that. I not sure how it would be useful for a desktop? All the things that could interfere with a DAW on a desktop can be turned off. 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/25 19:24:54 (permalink)
I've certainly tried.

I've disabled Windows update service.

Like I said, it stays green in latency Mon for days, literally. But it cannot be trusted.

I want to add that I'd still use the laptop but I would boot it and let it run an hour before going out with it.

I have it with me here at the in-laws and I'm using it to mix and practice.

When there is no pressure it always performs.

Because I would never use a recording laptop except to occasionally make mobile field recordings, I presume that a new laptop would be just as unreliable if not more than my current one.
post edited by gswitz - 2015/12/25 19:45:56

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 02:23:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2015/12/26 06:42:12
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I've certainly tried.

I've disabled Windows update service.

Like I said, it stays green in latency Mon for days, literally. But it cannot be trusted.

I want to add that I'd still use the laptop but I would boot it and let it run an hour before going out with it.

I have it with me here at the in-laws and I'm using it to mix and practice.

When there is no pressure it always performs.

Because I would never use a recording laptop except to occasionally make mobile field recordings, I presume that a new laptop would be just as unreliable if not more than my current one.



 
Sounds like there is a scheduled task trying to run. Either a disk maintenance or perhaps a virus/security scan. If this is the case you should be able to go into the windows services management and disable the "task Scheduler" then stop the service.
 
Just remember to turn it back on when you are done so the missed tasks can be ran later.
 
Edit: I just tried this myself and the task scheduler service does not allow its startup type to be changed. This might be accomplished with a registry change. I will look into it.
 
 
Edit2: Ok, using the registry can indeed disable the Scheduler service. It requires a reboot after the change because the service can't be stopped manually. I tested this on my laptop and it does boot and things seem ok.
 
You have to go through the registry to change that startup type back to automatic and reboot again to put things back to normal.
 
While it does work I don't like that I have to reboot because I do not have control over the service to manually start or stop it. I'm sure this limitation is by design and for security reasons.
 
I think the best approach for your laptop would be to turn it on, login and let it sit idol for an hour or two before you leave to do a mobile recording. This should allow the scheduled tasks to get caught up since you leave the laptop off most of the time.
post edited by Tom Riggs - 2015/12/26 03:56:21

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 02:43:04 (permalink)
I have had bitter-sweet experiences with Windows 10. I upgraded my laptop from Windows 7 to 10 and it was smooth sailing all the way. Works great and aside from a few minor niggles that I'm getting used to it's been a joy to use. Ironically I use a Roland Tricapture as my interface on the laptop with no problems to speak of.
 
I say ironically because it's Roland drivers (or lack of) that made the same upgrade on my Studio rig a complete nightmare to the point where I've now rolled back to Windows 7.
 
My Roland Sonic Cell which I use as my Windows interface and is essential for some of the video work that I do just refuses to work. I've read of and tried some of the suggested tricks and workrounds to get it working with Windows 10 but they just are't working for me. In the end I just decided that the hassle and headache of trying to get a new OS to work as well as my old OS does, wasn't worth it and rolled back.
 
That's where I'll stay on that setup until Roland get the drivers sorted, if ever.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 06:39:16 (permalink)
Other than disabling the NIC (going off line) I don't anything else and have had NO interference with Sonar either recording or mixing.  I even did a recording and forgot to disable the NIC and it all went well.   When I was on Win 7 and Win 8.1 I did the same thing, disabled the NIC when using Sonar.

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 06:47:45 (permalink)
Tom Riggs,
 
Thanks so much for being so thoughtful and trying to find a solution for me.
 
I used this same laptop on Windows Vista, 7 and 8 and now 10.
 
I do not have virus scanner installed except for Windows Defender and that is disabled.
 
I periodically plug it into the network and allow it to pick up updates for Sonar and TH3 and other software. Mostly, I copy the installers from my desktop where I've already downloaded them just to save time, but sometimes I download again just because it's easier.
 
I'll open and poke around in the Task Scheduler.
 
I agree that opening it up and leaving it running for a while is probably the answer. It still leaves me nervous for gigs where I REALLY want it to work. I suppose after a few more Win 10 successes my confidence will grow.
 
Wouldn't it be cool if Sonar could tell Windows not to consider the computer idle? or if there was a 'I'm making an audio recording, now is NOT the time!' setting?
 
Without that, it's always going to be good luck when you capture a great recording with Windows. IMHO.
 
It's one of the things that makes me fondly remember the days of using my Tascam 2488. No Windows. It always worked.
 
I find it sad that 10 years into making recordings using Windows I'm still not as stable as I feel it should be.
 
It makes me think that Sonar is really studio only where it's ok if your computer messes up. You can just do it again. Sonar/Windows is just not rock solid for doing mobile stuff where you get 1 shot and 1 shot only to capture it. And this makes me sad. I have a huge financial investment in Sonar. I've spent years becoming really good at using it. I'm a C# programmer by day, so I believe I have above average computer skills to start with.
 
And I want everyone to know that I say this sadly and reluctantly. I love Sonar and want very much to have it work all the time for me.
 
 

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 11:00:39 (permalink)
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John
I have been saying that for some time now. No one listens. 



Well, I did! I just think that after all those years of wiping hard drives, losing a couple days re-installing and re-authorizing everything, swearing, and prayer, people find it hard to believe that Microsoft got it really right this time. It all seems too good to be true. I was skeptical that the mobile team could pull of what was needed for a desktop system, but they clearly had a better handle on integrating the two than the desktop team that did [shudder] Windows 8.
 
Compare Windows 10 upgrade experiences to El Capitan, which many people are still urging me to avoid for my PowerBook...although others say it's pretty much okay now. I think I'll wait another month 





 That may happen with W10 eventually since it will be a continual upgrade and no service packs.  Usually the warnings of "don't upgrade to the latest build" comes after the fact.
  Some things are broken in W10 as far as file sharing.
  At least legacy devices will work.
 
 I'm not sold on it yet. 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 11:17:13 (permalink)
In Windows 10 there is the "Quite Time". This is when you do not want anything interfering with your work. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/set-quiet-hours-in-windows-10
 
In my experience because I have my system audio on the built sound chip and not using my studio audio for general sound I don't recall ever having a problem with Windows intruding.  
 
I have Windows 10 on all three of my computers.  I do wish MS would reconsider their policy for using automatic updates as the only way of updating. I have always updated and I have always done so at my convenience not MS's.
post edited by John - 2015/12/26 11:29:23

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 11:21:22 (permalink)
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In Windows 10 there is the "Quite Time". This is when you do not want anything interfering with your work. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/set-quiet-hours-in-windows-10
 
In my experience because I have my system audio on the built sound chip and not using my studio audio for general sound I don't recall ever having a problem with Windows intruding.  
 
I have Windows 10 on all three of my computers.  I do wish MS would reconsider their policy for using automatic updates as the only way of updating. I have always updated and I have always done so at my convenience not MS's.




 Is this different with W10 versions. I have W10 Pro and there is defer updates. I would assume you also keep system restore running is case something messes up.

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 11:33:25 (permalink)
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In Windows 10 there is the "Quite Time". This is when you do not want anything interfering with your work. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/set-quiet-hours-in-windows-10
 
In my experience because I have my system audio on the built sound chip and not using my studio audio for general sound I don't recall ever having a problem with Windows intruding.  
 
I have Windows 10 on all three of my computers.  I do wish MS would reconsider their policy for using automatic updates as the only way of updating. I have always updated and I have always done so at my convenience not MS's.




 Is this different with W10 versions. I have W10 Pro and there is defer updates. I would assume you also keep system restore running is case something messes up.


Defer updates to my understanding is some control over when Windows updates itself. It wont stop updating. The quite hours are times where nothing is supposed happen. This includes notifications and such.
 
I think but an not sure the presentation mode is now quite hours. I could be wrong. I can see how useful presentation mode is to some.   

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 12:05:21 (permalink)
I know for many this will sound a little kindergartenish but I recommend doing it anyway. There is a get started app that will show what is new and how things are different in Windows 10.  Its something many may not want to do because they have been working with OS's for years. Still I am still learning things about Windows 10 and most of it has been rewarding. I have found ways of using touch I did not know about before and not on the touch screen. On a precision touch pad there are gestures that do things as a mouse would.  The need for buttons has gone away. 
 
Using this app to get around Win 10 can be very useful. I also think MS did a good job in providing it. 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 13:17:55 (permalink)
My experience with updating to W10 from W7 was pretty problematic in terms of Sonar, but I have a feeling there was something going on in my machine rather than with W10 and Sonar.  I plan to buy a new computer in a few months with W10 installed and expect a happy experience.
 
 
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 13:27:59 (permalink)
I have not updated my DAW to W 10 yet because for me it is not free, I did my office computer and it took 24 hours and cost me $35 in bandwith ( I pay for anything over 3 gigs a month) 
It was pretty uneventfull I I really don't feel anything improved on that machine. It took me time to beat it into submision and get rid of the "live" crud and and force it back to being under my control. I'm not sure I'm 100% in control yet but it seems to be letting me do all the things I did in the past. I did loose a few older 32 bit apps which are no big deal. Funny they all ran under W 8.1? Might be over time updates will fix these issues. 
 
But be warned if you updating a laptop. Three people I know lost things like the SD card reader and all those handy function keys. Most laptops don't update those sort of drivers. 
 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 14:00:56 (permalink)
There should be drivers on the laptop web site for any hardware unsupported by Windows. 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 15:18:57 (permalink)
I did have an issue with windows ten - after an auto update I all of a sudden had my start menu not work - I had to do a rollback to an earlier date.  As of now it seems to be ok - watching.... very closely... consider yourself on probabtion =-)

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 16:17:27 (permalink)
I'm beginning to think that when it comes to computers and SONAR, I lead a charmed life.

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 20:50:37 (permalink)
John,

I'm afraid Windows might view quiet hours as an opportunity to use your pc because you're asleep. I don't know, but it doesn't look like Windows stay out of my way hours.

Craig, I'm happy you are having no issues. There have been stretches that are do long I thought I was finally risk free, but I'm not.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 21:19:04 (permalink)
Quiet time is only to disable notifications.
 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/set-quiet-hours-in-windows-10
 
This will not stop disk scans or indexing or any of the other background tasks from running.
 
Still it might be useful so that you are not annoyed by beeps and such.
 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/26 21:49:56 (permalink)
I like W10 a lot, and I've been largely impressed by the update process, but I have run into my first gremlin, and it's a fairly absurd one.
 
Gremlin phase one was that it gave me an update that basically killed all kinds of stuff. Raid drives not recognised, loads of device drivers incompatible, all kinds of crazy stuff.
 
Turned out I'd somehow got a preview build, even though downloading of preview builds was definitely not selected, so that's a bit of a cock up at MS's end. No Xmas pudding for whoever was tagging the updates that day.
 
So I rolled back, which brought me to Gremlin phase two, which is now the calculator app won't work. Apparently, this can happen on roll-back, where completely innocuous standard apps somehow become "unregistered", and you need to do a complete re-install. Apparently nothing is broken with the app itself, but the Windows store won't authorise the update. Of THE CALCULATOR APP. You know, that thing that's basically ran on the same codebase since about 1988 without any issues.
 
Well, if I must, I will, when I get round to it. I do actually use the calculator app all the time. It's the only thing that's broken, and it's a tiny thing, but really, what a pain.
 
So no Xmas pudding for whatever spaced out nerd decided building a complex and wobbly authorisations structure to wrap around the windows calculator app was a good idea. "Architecture astronauts", as a smarter man than me called these kinds of developers. Good grief.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 04:27:54 (permalink)
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I'm beginning to think that when it comes to computers and SONAR, I lead a charmed life.



That's about where I'm at. I have Win10 now running on three machines, all getting on in years and/or underpowered compared to just about anything you'd buy now - studio desktop, large notebook that does double duty as the household go-to computer and mobile studio, and a small ultra-portable netbook. 
 
The update process was almost wrinkle-free on the desktop, virtually all the old hardware and just about all installed software just popped right up on the new system - a couple of manual driver updates and a bit of configuration, but nothing unexpected and no showstoppers, and it's been humming along quite nicely since then. Sonar too, for the most part. 
 
The laptop gave me a bit more of a headache due to MS's default drivers for keyboard and trackpad, which disabled the space bar and half the number keys, and it took some creativity to get it back to full functionality - had to figure out where you can tell the OS to ignore certain drivers and not try to update them. But everything works in the end and it's smoother than 8.1 was - and I was one of those rare people that got along quite well with Win8. 
 
It's a bit sluggish on the netbook, and there appears to be no hope for Intel to make a compatible video driver for their onboard chip, so it's a low-res experience, but still better than anything else - Linux and Win7 both slowed pretty much to a standstill after a while. It's a crappy little thing, but has performed useful funcions a few times, so I haven't put it to pasture yet. 
 
I haven't figured out how to set up a real stripped-down no-background-processes state for mission-critical audio work, because I haven't needed to yet - it's never really bothered or interrupted me yet - but I would be interested if someone finds a solution. I suppose one could simply disable various services, but it would be nice to have a simple toggle that you could hit and know that the damn thing wasn't going to suddenly decide to defrag everything and download all possible updates just when you hit record. 
 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 08:03:48 (permalink)
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I haven't figured out how to set up a real stripped-down no-background-processes state for mission-critical audio work, because I haven't needed to yet - it's never really bothered or interrupted me yet - but I would be interested if someone finds a solution. I suppose one could simply disable various services, but it would be nice to have a simple toggle that you could hit and know that the damn thing wasn't going to suddenly decide to defrag everything and download all possible updates just when you hit record. 
 

This exactly!
 
I do a really good job of capturing lots of recordings and I do it with Windows most of the time. I almost never have problems. It's the almost that I struggle with.
 
And when I fail, if it wasn't me forgetting to plug the kick drum into the interface (or some other fault of mine), it is due to Windows failing me by interrupting the recording with stupid low priority work.
 
So far, every year, I've had to apologize to someone because of a lost track or set or show due to Windows. I'm hoping that 2016 will be the first year where I never have to apologize for using Windows.
 
So help me, if I had RME TotalMix on Linux, I'd never use Windows for field recording again. Honest Abe.
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 11:04:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/12/27 11:48:07
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Tip; Some of you may know this. Windows 10 has the ability to have multiple desktops. If you click on the task view icon on the task bar you can create and access more desktops. Each one is independent of the others. You can also access them by swiping from the far left on a touch screen. 
 
Windows key + tab will show all open windows. This is very useful for finding hidden windows or for changing tasks.  




Hello John ,
 
Nice Tip I had found that feature a couple of days ago while poking around . I had no idea how to recreate the multiple desktops ....
Your post helped me find how to use the feature again...thank you ...now I even know how to do it ..
 
On this fine morning I'm over here doing a little experiment . I want to see how useful this feature can be .
 
 
On desktop one I opened up a program called Transcribe , loaded an album , plugged in my 7string guitar and went on an all expense paid shopping spee of nicking every guitar lick and musical phrase I could ...
 
On desk top two I opened SONAR and set it to a song project that I have been working on ..my SONAR is set to not share ASIO drivers w other programs .
Bounced between desktops and both programs played .....that was nice ...
 
On desktop three the SONAR Reference Guide got loaded ..
Hey scook now your out of a job here on the forum I love you man I'm just kidding ...
one cool thing is I actually prefer to have the SONAR manual on a separate desktop ..
On my laptop I can leave SONAR in the state I left it , dial up the desktop #3 w the PDF and read up on how to do 
the task I'm looking to learn / get better at and then go back to my SONAR project with out having to play hide and seek with the GUI in SONAR ...
 
On desktop four I decided to go on line and come here to the forum and write a thank you post here ..
before i did I wanted to make another desk top and see something for myself .
 
On desktop Five I loaded up BIAB with a self created practice tune to Blow some 7 string over for a while ...
now what I'm finding interesting is I have that program set to ASIO and as long as I change desktops it seems that Windows 10 allows me to open up more than one music program that has ASIO as my default ...
 
I have been bouncing around between all 5 desktops to get a feel on this feature ...it is nice
 
I like this because it brings me into Mac territory on a Windows computer as far as being able to run multiple audio programs simultaneously while doing different tasks in each program . It seems real nice  having programs cooperate with each other w out a glitch ...
 
Hope I haven't overstepped my bounds as a guest in this thread w the verbiage ....
 
I would love to know what Craig thinks about how deep Windows 10 will allow the end user to multi task using different desktops while running separate programs ...
( my Win 10 computer is only a test computer with the bare minimum installed )
 
I wonder is it possible to run SONAR on one desktop and edit a video in Vegas on another desktop for example ?
 
Does anybody know if  Win 10 will allow full muliti tasking in separate desk tops with full autonomy ? or did I just get Lucky .
 
thanks all , wishing you the best ,
 
Kenny 
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