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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 11:38:45 (permalink)
Are you kidding me Kenny? Your post was a great one that explains how the feature can be used. Besides all members have a right to post in any thread as long as it is on topic. If its off topic that can be OK too if it has some relevance to the nature of the thread. Here you are confirming a feature and giving examples on how it can be used. That can only be thought of as helpful. What we would like posters to do is respect one another and not deliberately take a thread off topic.
  

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 11:43:18 (permalink)
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Are you kidding me Kenny? Your post was a great one that explains how the feature can be used. Besides all members have a right to post in any thread as long as it is on topic. If its off topic that can be OK too if it has some relevance to the nature of the thread. Here you are confirming a feature and giving examples on how it can be used. That can only be thought of as helpful. What we would like posters to do is respect one another and not deliberately take a thread off topic.
  




Thank You John , I appreciate what you said  (also the Tip )
 
I wasn't brought up on the internet so It takes me paragraphs not sentences 
 
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 15:52:40 (permalink)
Hey John, 
I can verify that in all 3 cases there was no driver support for those little apps that come with most laptops. The only drivers available are for Windows 7. Manufactures do not seem to go beond the drivers that the machine was made for. My Sony laptop was Vista 64  and it is now missing the SD reader, camera and function keys under W7 64 bit. 
One of the laptops I'm talking about is my wifes Lenovo Think Pad T 420.
See has lost the SD card reader and most of the Funtion keys same as my Sony. 
There are no updated drivers on the Lenovo website since W7. 
I have the original recovery disks and even tried to install from there. It goes so far then tells you there is an error. In Device manager the driver is shown as an error. Same on my Sony. 
An IT friend of ours has seen this a few times and say's there's nothing you can do. He didn't have this problem with going from W7 toW 8 or 8.1. Something has changed in W 10 that does not like W 7 drivers for specific things. I couldn't get an Intel Web camera to work on W10 yet it worked fine on Windows 8.1. 
It's all good. I'm using XP 32 bit on one Laptop,, works perfectly
My portable DAW laptop runs W7 running excellent with a new SSD in there. 
My Daw is W 8.1 and running smooth a silk
My office computer is W 10 and seems fine minus a few apps and things
Wifes Laptop W10 and working smoothly minus the SD reader and the function keys. 
post edited by Cactus Music - 2015/12/27 16:10:22

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 16:29:29 (permalink)
Johnny here is a list of Lenova products and if they will get Windows 10 support. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht103535#thinkpad
 
I have a Lenova Thinkpad T 400 running Windows 10 and it is not fully supported. Yet it works well enough. Further even though the finger print reader is no longer working for log on, I would not give up Windows 10 just so I could use it. What I'm saying is one needs to balance the benefits of Windows 10 against the features one may loose upgrading. I lost nothing with my desktop. Nor did I loose anything with my tablet. The Lenova is old and I got it as a refurbished deal. So for it I'm not missing anything. Besides I use the tablet more. Its a heck of a lot lighter and easy to transport.
 
 
Here for the most part I am taking about Windows 10 on a desktop running Sonar Platinum. For some machines it may not be the best choice.  For DAW use its can't be beat by any other Windows version.  
     

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/27 20:14:50 (permalink)
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I'm beginning to think that when it comes to computers and SONAR, I lead a charmed life.




That doesn't surprise me one bit  .
To computers and SONAR you might be having such a charmed life because to them you may be something like a Chuck Norris All the stuff you've done over the years in music has probably got all them gadgets , gizmo's and computers you own walking a straight line on their best behavior 
 
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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/28 00:47:11 (permalink)
 
I just found out that XP Mode isn't available in w10 and the workaround requires an XP licence.  I absolutely need XP mode to run my Micrografx drawing suite which is irreplaceable, for any amount of money.  Looks like that may be the straw that keeps me on w7. 
 
 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/28 18:18:24 (permalink)
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In the immortal words of Herman Cain, "I don't have facts to back this up" but I suspect those background updates happening to Windows 7 or 8 are essentially turning it into Windows 10. Vista was like this - but the time you did the last Vista update, you were essentially running Windows 7.


I hope this isn't the case.  While I think Windows 10 is a wonderful OS. until Microsoft officially denounces and removes the spyware and user information it collects, I won't upgrade any system of mine that has sensitive data on it.  I upgraded all the computers in my lab, and I have found it to be excellent.  However, the data snooping it does really annoys me.  I've found a utility written by a couple hackers in Germany that allegedly turns all the spyware off, and I've installed it on one of the lab computers that I can monitor constantly.  Maybe I'll upgrade the computers in my studio when I am convinced that Microsoft isn't 'watching' my data!

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/28 21:21:47 (permalink)
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until Microsoft officially denounces and removes the spyware and user information it collects, I won't upgrade any system of mine that has sensitive data on it.  I upgraded all the computers in my lab, and I have found it to be excellent.  However, the data snooping it does really annoys me.  I've found a utility written by a couple hackers in Germany that allegedly turns all the spyware off, and I've installed it on one of the lab computers that I can monitor constantly.  Maybe I'll upgrade the computers in my studio when I am convinced that Microsoft isn't 'watching' my data!



There are plenty of ways to disable the telemetry functions in Windows 10...just ask the internet. Also FYI, I've been told by people who know more about this stuff than me that some of the updates to Windows 7 are installing the telemetry software. The difference is that while Windows 10 has explicit ways to disable it, Windows 7 doesn't.
 
Bear in mind that it's also a losing battle, because the Chromes and Googles of this world are tracking you, with no assistance from Microsoft or Apple required. It's almost impossible to use the internet and opt out of the surveillance grid that's been set up for various types of data collection. It's also almost impossible to keep your data from being accessed by hackers. For this reason, I turn on some telemetry functions (like alerting Microsoft to potential security breaches and phishing sites) while turning off others.
 
FWIW over a decade ago before any of this online tracking from Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. was happening, I was very involved in the Musicplayer.com web site. One person made a joke about the president at the time (Bush) in one post in one forum. It was interpreted as hostile, and the next morning, two federal agents were at his door and spent several hours grilling him before they were satisfied he was just some online dude. This has been going on for a long time and I don't see it ending any time soon...perversely, I see Microsoft collecting data on things like potential security breaches as ultimately being able to provide perhaps more protection for us, not less.
 
Like any tool, data collection has the power for good or evil. Imagine if, for example, Cakewalk had the ability to monitor how you use SONAR. If they find 90% of the users do mostly MIDI-based projects, that would influence product development just as much as if they found out only 10% do mostly MIDI-based projects. But there's a difference between anonymous market research and control. Unfortunately humans are pulling the levers, so you have every reason to be skeptical.
 
Meanwhile, Windows 10 is just a drop in the bucket compared to all the various sites snooping around my data. Then again, it has some cool aspects. When I booted up yesterday Windows asked if I liked the sign-on picture or would I like to see more. I clicked more and the next time I booted up, there was a beautiful picture of a grassy green field. If Microsoft is using their data to give me more of the computing experience I want, no problems at this end. 

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Re: SONAR: Glad I Finally Updated to Windows 10 2015/12/28 21:24:14 (permalink)
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I would love to know what Craig thinks about how deep Windows 10 will allow the end user to multi task using different desktops while running separate programs ...

 
I think it has more to do with the interface and drivers you're using. I run multiple programs all the time using ASIO for SONAR and WDM for Vegas and Hypercam so I can have all three programs open when doing videos. However, this didn't require using different desktops; Windows 7 could handle it just fine.
 

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