CakeAlexS


Whilst the forum updates... Anybody got any crack? ;)

A pantful.  

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CakeAlexS


Whilst the forum updates... Anybody got any crack? ;)

A pantful.  

eeewwwww!!!

Well, we are all friends here & I know the ones that have been here a long time believe that SONAR IS TOTALLY AWESOME!!! 


But seriously I posted this thread because of all the negativity in this forum, I have been blessed with the time to use SONAR alot lately trying to finish my SoundTraxx Music Library Volume II's 100 tracks by April & I just love spending time with my SONAR & pushing myself to be creative and have fun at it also.  My life would not be the same if music creation was not in it and SONAR has been my production tool since Bars and Pipes Professional on my AMIGA 1000. (then PRO Audio-9 SONARS Ancestor)


It is an awesome tool and we are all blessed to have it in our lives from the shakers to the bakers & the music makers.


Have FUN! - Shawn (SONAR IS TOTALLY AWESOME)

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AMEN


Danny

John


Shawn I was hoping you would post a link to the link. Your post above is pure class.

And let this be the end of it. Except if someone wants to post something nice.

+1

... and BTW, I am NOT a self-appointed forum police. But I play one on this forum.

jese we may have drones doing flybys in the near future

jb101

chuckebaby

jb101


I thoroughly agree, Shawn.  Thank you for posting.
 
I would have liked to listen to your new track.  Have you put it in the song forum?
 
I don't understand why some people get so het up, but there we are.  Where would we be without the self-appointed forum police?
 
I think Sonar is "awesome", too, and love working with it.  Thanks again for your positive post.

But not one of you have gone over and commented on his song.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2777232
 
 
 

Not only do the self-appointed forum police tell us where we can post, but they also impose a time limit on our replies. 
 
As soon as I had a chance to listen to Shawns track, I did.
 
And I have posted on his songs thread.  I hope that's okay, and I've not transgressed any other forum law.
 
Thanks again, Shawn, for posting a positive Sonar thread.  I got the impression that you were not asking for feedback, just showing why you feel that Sonar is "awesome".  I agree.
 
But some must feel that you were, and complained, and then complain when people don't offer feadback.  Funny old world.
 
Edited for clarity.
 

see when you call someone "forum police" its a personal attack,its name calling,but you dont understand that though do you?
the way you treat members sometimes with little to no respect is very disrespectful.(like bub)
like they're your personal toy here for you to humiliate like a bully would do.
 
maybe you should step outside yourself and read your own posts once in awhile.
maybe staff should take a look at some of your posts as well.
 
not once in this thread did i resort to name calling.
what if every single one of us started name calling where that leave us?
where?
 
do you have  a reasonable explaination? or is this the part when you have nothing you can think of so your going to call me another name?
 
i happen to think sonar is the best daw on the planet
i use it every single day and i defend it constintly to people here on the forum with nothing better to do than
troll.
 
ya im the guy answering threads trying to help people before i start another session using sonar.
 
i dont think you wanted that link,i think you wanted an exscuse to bash someone.
problem is you got the wrong guy man.im one of the good guys.
 
but im also one who puts his songs in the song forum just like everyone else.
where do you put your songs?
 

Bub

Marcus Curtis

Bub

Craig Anderton did it the other day, where was the outrage then?

Craig had special permission from the people at Cakewalk and there was a reason behind it.

The reason behind his post was the fact I made a comment in another thread to something of the effect that some of the people who claim to be professionals here have never posted a song. That's where it stemmed from.

It's not a big deal, I'm just pointing out that Shawn came on, stated how much he liked Sonar, gave an example of what you can do with it, and that's exactly what Craig did in his post.

Seems there's a dual standard here determined by status.

Actually, that's not "exactly" what I did in my post. I have eight songs posted on my YouTube channel that were done in Sonar, and you can access my playlist via my sig. The reason for posting that specific song - which isn't even one I wrote - was because of the video, which was done exclusively with movie captures of Sonar.
 
I thought it was novel and something that y'all, being Sonar users, would enjoy. It was also something that got quite a bit of discussion in my Sound, Studio, and Stage forum, because people asked about specific techniques they saw me use in the video (apparently there are other Damage "secret weapon" fanbois out there). And, when I did a similar video using Ozone 5's spectral metering as the background, the people at iZotope got a huge kick out of it.
 
Being sensitive to the protocol about posting songs in this forum, but feeling I wasn't really posting a song in the traditional sense of "hey, listen to my music," I asked Cakewalk in advance if it would be okay. They dug the video concept and said sure, but I STILL didn't post it. Eventually I did, and given the "pros never post their songs done with Sonar" comment, I thought okay, not only was this done in Sonar, you can see that it was all done with Sonar in the video.
 
You can feel free to attribute special mojo to my "status," but I honestly think if anyone else had done a crazy-ass "all Sonar" video behind a piece of music that documented what Sonar was doing in various spots throughout the song, had a pro level of sound quality, showed it to the folks at Cakewalk, and asked if it was okay to post it, they would have been told to go ahead as well. Despite the cliche, sometimes it IS better to ask for permission than forgiveness.

Anderton

Bub

Marcus Curtis

Bub

Craig Anderton did it the other day, where was the outrage then?

Craig had special permission from the people at Cakewalk and there was a reason behind it.

The reason behind his post was the fact I made a comment in another thread to something of the effect that some of the people who claim to be professionals here have never posted a song. That's where it stemmed from.

It's not a big deal, I'm just pointing out that Shawn came on, stated how much he liked Sonar, gave an example of what you can do with it, and that's exactly what Craig did in his post.

Seems there's a dual standard here determined by status.

Actually, that's not "exactly" what I did in my post. I have eight songs posted on my YouTube channel that were done in Sonar, and you can access my playlist via my sig. The reason for posting that specific song - which isn't even one I wrote - was because of the video, which was done exclusively with movie captures of Sonar.
 
I thought it was novel and something that y'all, being Sonar users, would enjoy. It was also something that got quite a bit of discussion in my Sound, Studio, and Stage forum, because people asked about specific techniques they saw me use in the video (apparently there are other Damage "secret weapon" fanbois out there). And, when I did a similar video using Ozone 5's spectral metering as the background, the people at iZotope got a huge kick out of it.
 
Being sensitive to the protocol about posting songs in this forum, but feeling I wasn't really posting a song in the traditional sense of "hey, listen to my music," I asked Cakewalk in advance if it would be okay. They dug the video concept and said sure, but I STILL didn't post it. Eventually I did, and given the "pros never post their songs done with Sonar" comment, I thought okay, not only was this done in Sonar, you can see that it was all done with Sonar in the video.
 
You can feel free to attribute special mojo to my "status," but I honestly think if anyone else had done a crazy-ass "all Sonar" video behind a piece of music that documented what Sonar was doing in various spots throughout the song, had a pro level of sound quality, showed it to the folks at Cakewalk, and asked if it was okay to post it, they would have been told to go ahead as well.
 
Or, maybe Cakewalk just let me post it because they feared my Awesome Power, and were terrified that I would switch to Pro Tools as my main DAW tomorrow if they didn't tell me to go ahead. Admittedly, that's a much more vibrant conspiracy theory

Yeah, you're right Craig.

I read it all wrong. Things were a little heated that day and I got carried away with it all.

Thanks for the video.

I haven't watched it yet, I'll go do that right now.

Thanks,

Bub.

Anderton

Hey, no problem. Dealing with a text-only medium is a ****.

But your post #51 is pretty darn cool, and I wish I saw more posts like that in ALL internet forums.

Thanks.

I just watched the video ... it's really good.

I had Windows Sound Service disabled to try and save some resources and got sick of not being able to watch Youtube, so I re-enabled it today. First I've had a chance to check it out. That and the fact that the Midi port on my Fast Track Ultra wouldn't work without Windows Sound Service for some reason. It's an external USB 2.0 device, I would think it wouldn't matter, but it does.

Bub.

chuckebaby

what are you talking about?
 
im talking about the way jb bullys you.
 
re-read it again,
 
maybe i should have been more clear,hows this:
 
"the way you treat members sometimes with little to no respect is very disrespectful.(like  THE WAY YOU TREAT bub) 
i think some of the things he has said to you go a little beyond common respect.

All I can do is say I'm sorry. I mis-read it. This is going from bad to worse man. 

I'm glad someone else picked up on that about him. Thanks.

ya sure it would have been nice if you had my back today.
 
sorry still feel the same way,songs belong in the forum unless you have permission.
i think shawn a good guy and a tallented musician but its the second time hes done it.
dude you know how much i love sonar,but my songs are either in my sig or in the song forum

Yeah, you're right. Songs should go down in the Song forum. There's been so many bad things going on here lately, it just seemed trivial to me at the time, but you are right, this isn't the right place for it. If the shameless plug thing gets to you ... do not go down to the CH. OMG.  Putting your songs in your signature is a very effective way to get people to listen. I had thousands of hits on Bub's Rap, but hardly any replies in comparison. That's the kicker. It's nice to see your tune on the front page of the Song's forum, even if people don't like it, it's still nice to see it show up. Oddly, the other one with the most hits was Silver Bells. All year long I get hits on it, yet hardly no one has ever commented on it. I don't get it? People must like Christmas music I guess. LOL

thats not what bothers me,its the personal attacks,the name calling. the "forum police" and cowboydan refering to me as "Looser"
there are many ways to tell me you dont like my opinions without having to resort to lowerng yourself to name calling

I agree with you on that. It's hard to engage people that do that because it usually gets real ugly real fast and they have a tendency to hold a grudge. I think it will get better. I think that particle dude got the admin's attention and they'll be keeping a better eye on the forum for a while now.

I have been and remain motivated to try to help folks, specifically because plenty of folks here in the forum have helped me with issues and techniques.  My other motivation is my deep love for music, and if anything I can do helps another be able to play and record music then I am happy to help.

I know that there is a lot of frustration generated when folks have errors and crashes and then see me post that I am not seeing a particular problem.  To anyone who has bristled at any such post of mine, please understand that I am not at all trying to gloat or be dismissive when I do that - I am only trying to indicate that for whatever reason, that particular issue is not being triggered on my system.

It seems reasonable to me that if one system produces a problem and another does not, that the issue would likely fall into one of 2 categories:

1.  Environmental differences 
2.  Procedural differences

I define environmental differences to be something with the system software or hardware that is different between a system that works and one that doesn't, where the exact same steps are followed on both machines.

I define procedural differences as being something triggering on one machine and not the other due to a different set of steps followed.

There are legitimate bugs exposed by both kinds of differences, and there are also solutions found by careful examination of the above differences.

(bugs that are found to be present on all machines are not part of this post - I am only seeking to explain why I often am posting that I am not having a particular issue).

So, I believe it to be of investigative value to explore WHY a particular problem occurs on one computer and not on another.  To get to the bottom of that situation, it seems perfectly logical to me to dig into both of the above categories of differences, to ferret out what conditions produce the problem.

It is, in my opinion, therefore legitimate to ask questions about environmental conditions and procedural steps in order to narrow down causes for problems.

While there are certainly blanket haters as well as blanket fan bois among forum members, I think sometimes people are posting like me - to point out the need for careful examination of a given system and the steps one person followed that produced an error, when others are not seeming to run into that particular problem.

I certainly do not mean to rile anyone up - I only really bashed once in my forum time, and that was a single comment to Godparticle - and I believe that may have been justifiable bashicide.

Bob Bone