In the word of Rodney King (rest in peace) "Can't we all just get along?" What we have experienced in the last few weeks has been the work of trolls. I can't help but wonder what amusement God Particle gets. I know he can't log in any more. I am willing to bet he comes back and reads through the thread just to view the damage he has caused. I am willing to bet he is amused by it. He probably laughs out loud when he looks at all the strife. 

At one time this was a pretty peaceful place. Yes we had our disagreements but we reasoned through them. Somehow emotion and self defense took over. The troll did his work and is having his amusement at our expense! I understand Shawn's  motives and that is why I don't condemn him. 

I implore everyone here to forgive, forget and move on! Let us set aside our emotion and any lingering bitterness. If I said anything that someone found offensive then I apologize right now. Let us move on to talking about what I feel is the greatest DAW on the planet. Let us rally behind that! 

Bub


I think everything is cool. I just misunderstood something Chuck said. Everything's ok.

If it's any consolation I read it the same way so don't feel toooooo bad.


Grum.

YES - Sonar is totally awesome!   It helps me get my ideas down quickly and with a bit of effort on my part, sounds pretty darn close to what I had in my head - sometimes even better.  I can share that, in turn, with other musicians so I can perform the work. If I can perform it in front of just one person, and it rewards them in some small way, then I have fulfilled what I set out to do with Sonar.  It makes my musical dreams come true and might I add, brings them to life.
 
I have somewhat a different perspective any forum in general.  Things aren't black and white, things aren't grey. Life is a world of color, so is, in some respects, a forum.   It is my sincere hope, that we work together to learn and grow because of it, to solve problems together, to commiserate and understand the pain when things don't go right, to believe in the needs of others, to revel in joy that we and others have in our craft - in the name and nature of music.
 
I would like to thank Shawn for this thread and for each of his replies.  He indeed adds to the color of what we all do.
 
L

Bub

chuckebaby

what are you talking about?

im talking about the way jb bullys you.

re-read it again,

maybe i should have been more clear,hows this:

"the way you treat members sometimes with little to no respect is very disrespectful.(like  THE WAY YOU TREAT bub) 
i think some of the things he has said to you go a little beyond common respect.

All I can do is say I'm sorry. I mis-read it. This is going from bad to worse man. 

I'm glad someone else picked up on that about him. Thanks.

ya sure it would have been nice if you had my back today.

sorry still feel the same way,songs belong in the forum unless you have permission.
i think shawn a good guy and a tallented musician but its the second time hes done it.
dude you know how much i love sonar,but my songs are either in my sig or in the song forum

Yeah, you're right. Songs should go down in the Song forum. There's been so many bad things going on here lately, it just seemed trivial to me at the time, but you are right, this isn't the right place for it. If the shameless plug thing gets to you ... do not go down to the CH. OMG.  Putting your songs in your signature is a very effective way to get people to listen. I had thousands of hits on Bub's Rap, but hardly any replies in comparison. That's the kicker. It's nice to see your tune on the front page of the Song's forum, even if people don't like it, it's still nice to see it show up. Oddly, the other one with the most hits was Silver Bells. All year long I get hits on it, yet hardly no one has ever commented on it. I don't get it? People must like Christmas music I guess. LOL

thats not what bothers me,its the personal attacks,the name calling. the "forum police" and cowboydan refering to me as "Looser"
there are many ways to tell me you dont like my opinions without having to resort to lowerng yourself to name calling

I agree with you on that. It's hard to engage people that do that because it usually gets real ugly real fast and they have a tendency to hold a grudge. I think it will get better. I think that particle dude got the admin's attention and they'll be keeping a better eye on the forum for a while now.

bub youll always be my friend no matter what.
even if we have a disagreement now and then,doesnt matter.I stay mad for like a day them im over it.
dont take it the wrong way but you dont have it in you to be a bully..lol you take a lot of heat around here for speaking your concerns.
but you still keep comming here.i think you like the "good" people and you like sonar as a daw.
 
i think theres alot of heat flying around here right now(Gparticle got us going good) and im going to lay low a while.
still come here but just lay low.
 
peace

DigitalBoston


this has been going on for years /the so called pro who has yet to produce a song that has any impact on the music industry,
 try every day to impact the forum with there nonsence
yes sonar is touch and go and takes time to learn its weekness
but jst cus you know all the tricks to get sonar runable
dont make you a industry pro, that takes talent
and alot of folks with talent are fighting with sonar to get there greatness layed down.
yes sonar is getting a chance to shine since its tested better now than the DEll PT windows coming down the pipe. but its still broken.in need of a patch.
 il say this its very close to greatness, and will be by next year till the break it again.
 i hope they follow windows and strip it down like they did from vista to win7.that would make it run better, but things like PC are just a joke to real producers
 o ya and dont forget the big joke that was expanded what a scam that was, not so pro move by cakewalk.

as much as my new moto is to avoid contreversy,you took a very nice swipe at me on this thread yesterday.
so let me return the favor about your so called "broken sonar"
 
2 weeks ago one of the best techs we have on this forum asked for your specs on a thread you started asking for help
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2766712
 
you totaly ignored him
 
he asked you 3 more times in this thread for your specs.
but instead,you ignored him and instead went on about: "so whats a good card with 8 or more inputs thats under 200 bucks??"
 
so get this...you ignore him and make 4 more posts and never answer him once.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2767732
 
in my opinion.Robert is one of the most knowlegable people on this forum.but you didnt want to hear what your real problem is.
 
you know clearly what your issue is yet you wander the forums bashing sonar,claiming its broken.
 
your deltacard ?
drivers for your deltacard?
sound furmiliar?
 
ask around.
 
in my experience there are those who want to solve their problems,then their are those that would rather ignore the real problem
and blame sonar...why ?
 
cause its a lot easier.
 
good day sir.
 
 
 
 
 

There it is. Debate it forever or try to fix it.

Sonar have the ability to bring out what we really are, or what we really have inside through music creation...is an excuse to display the hidden things...in some cases(during  performance)  you just have to see the faces...weird!

robert_e_bone


My offer to assist is a standing one - @DigitalBoston - if you ever truly would like assistance, post a detailed response to the basic information I asked for on multiple occasions.  

If you choose to not participate in a discussion aimed at helping you, that is certainly your choice - you are the one dead in the water with this, not me.

Bob Bone

guys again im sorry but livin in boston threw this snowstorm has cripled my studio.
 and x2 well im no ready to fight this monster, and oddly x1 has not given me any delta issues so
im afraid to change anything on my card since x1 is running better than ever.
and iv read so much on the buffers and what can cause drops and crashes, but im now makin a video to show how odd this x2 only trouble is, you wont belive it like today i just nudged up the volume on a  clip in the track lane, guess what happen it rymes with trash. but dont smell
i do thank you for your time, guys its just very hard to get pin pointed. version to vesion

@DigitalBoston - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE provide DETAIL on the issues you are having, AND please detail your computer system, and the audio interface settings you are using with X2a when you are having these problems.

I cannot seem to get through to you that we are a fairly competent (sometimes) group of folks willing to help you - but you keep skirting around and ignoring multiple requests for you to detail your system and the issues you are having.

Nobody here can FIX true bugs, other than Cakewalk, but some things CAN be resolved, through some cooperative debugging, and sometime workarounds can be found for other issues.

The key word in this is COOPERATIVE - you MUST provide the information if you have any hope of getting past whatever is happening.

YOU control what changes you may or may not implement - but if you do not give us any opportunity to know more about both your system (in DETAIL), as well as your issues (in DETAIL), NOBODY can help you and you will simply remain pissed off needlessly.

So, I don't get it - what is the difficulty in your posting the requested information?  It boggles my mind that you have not done so.

Even if you remain with X1 for the moment, we might be able to offer some suggestions for whenever you ARE ready to try to get X2a more stable on your system.

So, what's it going to be????????????????????????

Bob Bone

@DigitalBoston - check you PM's - I am about to send you my cell number - it may be quicker to look at stuff if you call me.

Bob Bone

@DigitalBoston

I know about the phone problems you are having - I am available this evening at the provided number.

Hope your X1 session went OK last night, 

Bob Bone

Well maybe we should all get pics like that in the footer. Larger pics the better. Cake would probably have to upgrade the forums software. Hmmm giving me some ideas... Might not make me that popular. But it is a neat idea!

Why are we so intolerant? What on this Earth does it matter? 

Please leave the man alone. CW has seen fit to leave it here. Who are we to be so PC?

Paul P


Shawn : "SONAR IS TOTALLY AWESOME!"

So you figured it was time to pop up another advertisement ?

The kid is cute, the ad isn't...

OMG, really?!

Can we keep things cool for a while, guys? Please?

kthxbye