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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 15:19:44
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Well that's pretty cool. At least there's a possible workaround. Thanks.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 15:25:46
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I have the same problem. In the heat of a session doing multiple takes it can be very frustrating- as Sonar crashes pretty consistently under these circumstances. Many times I have to reboot. (I'm using the V-700). So it's save after every take- which should be normal- but with all the other stuff going on one can forget. I seemed to experience this more after the X1D patch.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 15:48:25
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What sort of crash are you talking about? Whatever the type, you should NOT be crashing regularly with your system.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 20:07:10
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my crashes today:
2x UAD insert on channel
3x Maschine insert (this one is the most)
1x Regular Playback while adjusting reverb VST
strangely, i seem to remember Sonar popping up some kind of reporting window to send to Cakewalk and now it no longer does?
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 21:40:56
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"What sort of crash are you talking about? Whatever the type, you should NOT be crashing regularly with your system."
Well Amen that it SHOULDN'T be crashing a lot but it IS. Pretty much just as the OP describes. Sometimes Sonarpdr.exe stays open in the background and the only thing I can do is reboot. Sometimes closing the VS700 does the gig but lots of times it's reboot. It happened this morning in a session with two clients here! It's not the end of the world for me as I'm aware that I HAVE to save after every take. It's just a bit frustrating. 8.5.3 seemed to be pretty stable compared to this. Again, I aint exactly ****ing but...
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 21:46:59
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I have the same problem, especially when I use v-vocal. Like you, I can not shut down the process. Things seem to go to pot if there is a crash when I have a midi keyboard connected. My "fix" is loging off of windows (not shutting down, just a quick logoff/login. When I do that, the process is gone and sonar can be started and run normally. By the way, since I gave up on v-vocal because of instabilities (in Sonar x1 64 bit only, not 32), and went to Melodyne (which is GREAT, 10 times better than v-vocal), ALL that instability is gone because I no longer use V-vocal. But the log off/logon trick is what I did before that and saved a lot of time over rebooting.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 02:49:11
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My X1 crashes when trying to use Rapture, and I have documented that in some depth elsewhere. When X1 crashes, I too need to re-boot, before I can start X1 again, and the .exe program is still running, and visible in the processes tab of task manager.
The only device connected to my workstation when this happens is my Roland QUAD-CAPTURE.
I have raised a support ticket and I am still awaiting a response.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 16:07:58
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I was having problem with a bad install of the N.I Kontact retro machines 2.
I had too click end process on the SONARPDR.exe about 4 or 5 times to end.
Eventually sorted by downloading again using a download manager and re-installing the sound set.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 16:52:56
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@synkrotron... I know it's long distance for you but if it's causing a serious disruption in your work it's easier to get a response from Cake support over the phone. Both times I've called I was only on hold for a few minutes and it was well worth the wait and few bucks of LD charges. Extremely helpful folk. Cheers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 16:54:48
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Oh and keep an eye out for new QC driver updates. I think a few people have been having issues so I'd imagine Roland will be attempting to release new drivers. At least one would think so anyway.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 17:05:02
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Beepster
@synkrotron... I know it's long distance for you but if it's causing a serious disruption in your work it's easier to get a response from Cake support over the phone. Both times I've called I was only on hold for a few minutes and it was well worth the wait and few bucks of LD charges. Extremely helpful folk. Cheers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/12 17:24:38
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Yup, always stuff to learn. Such a massive program with so many goodies to play with and I keep getting distracted by meatworld stuff. I think I'm gonna have at least a week or so to focus on my little experiments now though without too much distraction... I hope. Stupid meatworld. Anyway, you're good peeps, synkro. Hope you're having an awesome day. Cheers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 14:43:22
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in the last few days under heavy usage (2 remixes) X1 has been crashing on simple drag/drop of midi clips here or there. i got it to be almost repeatable. 14 times it crashed this way.
just wanted to report.
also as a sidenote, after one crash i let it alone for about 30 minutes and it came back without reboot, although the midi indicator never went away. this is the first time its done that. who knows, maybe windows drops the drivers after a timeout period?
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 14:59:38
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I haven't really scratched the surface of the many & varied soft synths in Sonar.
I find a preset that's close to what I want and tweak it a bit.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 15:01:28
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soundsubs
also as a sidenote, after one crash i let it alone for about 30 minutes and it came back without reboot, although the midi indicator never went away. this is the first time its done that.
interesting, is it the first time you've left it alone long enough?
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 16:10:53
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Happens to me all the time. I have to reboot to kill the process. And yes I use an Axiom 49.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 16:15:06
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I'm still curious to know if specific drivers are actually causing the crashes or just not releasing the sonarpdr.exe process.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 16:40:24
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I too have had this happen when editing sounds in various soft synths such as Rapture. As far as this being a possible driver problem, I had this crash while using a delta 44 and my current Quad Capture, so Im not convinced its that. The screen turns a faded white...then I close Sonar and cannot open sonar again without rebooting the computer. This has probably happened a ten times in the last two two years.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 16:54:44
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interesting, is it the first time you've left it alone long enough?
yeah it was a complete accident. it crashed, i THOUGHT i went to reboot it but didnt, and realized later that the icon was still there.
not sure why i remember it was 30 minutes, other than an autosave.
hey. thank god for auto-save.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 16:57:25
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@Randy... I hate to think this way but if people are having an issue with this on devices other than M-Audio, in my mind, I can only assume it's Sonar having trouble with certain hardware drivers. Maybe we should all yell at the device manufacturers to make sure their stuff works with Cake software. I know Cake isn't the be all and end all of DAWs but I think it has enough of a share of the market to at least be considered when testing new drivers. I may have this issue muddled in my head but although I think Cake should do their best to stay on top of this kind of stuff I could see it being next to impossible if the hardware kids are not playing nice. Make sense at all? Maybe others have more insight on this topic and can share.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/17 17:05:54
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interesting data:
-just crashed again (launching Maschine) and i waited for 5 minutes, nothing happened.
-hit ctrl-alt-del and checked the .exe was running. it was (540mb). right clicked on it and "create crash dump log"
-waited 4 minutes. still running.
-unplugged midiman 8x8 and plugged back in. waited 4 minutes. nothing.
-waited 5 minutes. sonar finally shut down.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/18 01:46:02
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Interesting topic. I've noticed this problem for years but have gotten used to it. It certainly happens on Sonar 8.5 but I believe earlier versions as well. Yes, I have an M-Audio keyboard and its interesting to know that it might be the culprit. Sonar doesn't crash that much on my system, but when it does SONARPDR.exe is almost always running in the background and the MIDI indicator remains visible. I almost never reboot. I just open task manager and click "end process" a few times. After a while, SONARPDR.exe goes away. I don't think it would take less time if I waited for a reboot. Although I use X1D, version 8.53 is still hanging around on my system, as it takes me a very long time to delete a previous Sonar after installing a new one. Force of habit. Anyway, I discovered that if the Midi indicator remains after an X1 crash, I can make it go away by firing up and closing 8.53.
post edited by KeithAdv - 2012/07/18 02:00:47
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/18 04:24:21
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Quick tip: Logging off and back on fixes this (well it does for Win 7) and is a damn sight quicker than rebooting!
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/18 12:21:31
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I've had the same problem lots of time's I use an M-Audio Oygen 61 keyboard and also an M-Audio Octane channel strip linked toa Presonus 1818VSL via lightpipe
Sonarpdr.exe is always left running in the background and requires a reboot but it drives me nuts
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/18 12:31:05
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I have had this problem in the past with my yamaha keyboard connecting via USB, but my current set up, I run the MIDI I/O thru either my MOTU MIDI Express or my MOTU ultralite. the MIDI express uses USB for I/O and the Ultralite I am using firewire for I/O.
I've not had this problem since using this setup.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/19 04:48:27
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hesitant to buy M-Audio stuff Just to let you know, I use a Delta66 (hardly state of the art) with 64 bit drivers in Win 7 x64 and I've never had a problem. Maybe it's more related to USB drivers? And maybe the motherboard type has something to do with it? I'm just saying this as you seem to have your heart set on the Axiom 
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/08/20 02:34:18
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benjaminfrog
So, periodically, Sonar stops responding (usually as the result of a plugin not playing well with others) and I have to exit and relaunch the program. Usually, this does the trick and I'm up and running again in less than a minute. However, occasionally, SONARPDR.exe continues running in the background and, unless I reboot, I can't reopen Sonar for 5 to 10 minutes; i.e., until the executable stops.
Anyone know how to force the shutdown of the .exe? I've tried the following command line from the install directory (which has worked on other .exes), but to no avail:
taskkill /f /im "sonarpdr.exe"
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
What version of X1 are you running? Install the latest update (X1d) as I believe this is a known bug with the earlier versions. I recently got X1 for my new system and had the same issue you had, but it went away as soon as I updated to the X1c and X1d patches.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/08/20 06:52:44
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I also started a thread about this....
Funnily enough I'm writing this whilst waiting for SONARPDR.exe to sort itself out.....
Meh...
Btw, powering off the Delta1010 breakout box and killing the M-Audio driver then trying to kill SONARDPR.exe doesnt work....
Cakewalk REALLY need to address this annoying problem, its driving me nuts.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/08/20 06:56:11
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Doesnt make any difference, I am fully up to date and X1 is crashing more than ever and hanging in the background. :( elsongs
benjaminfrog
So, periodically, Sonar stops responding (usually as the result of a plugin not playing well with others) and I have to exit and relaunch the program. Usually, this does the trick and I'm up and running again in less than a minute. However, occasionally, SONARPDR.exe continues running in the background and, unless I reboot, I can't reopen Sonar for 5 to 10 minutes; i.e., until the executable stops.
Anyone know how to force the shutdown of the .exe? I've tried the following command line from the install directory (which has worked on other .exes), but to no avail:
taskkill /f /im "sonarpdr.exe"
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
What version of X1 are you running? Install the latest update (X1d) as I believe this is a known bug with the earlier versions. I recently got X1 for my new system and had the same issue you had, but it went away as soon as I updated to the X1c and X1d patches.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/08/20 08:52:50
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This happens to me occasionally - and I USED to have to Reboot. But someone on this forum told me to Kill the Process in task manager (not the application because the application isn't there). After I kill the Process I can re-start with no issues. No Re-boot. This has worked like a charm over the last couple years since I learned this tip.
Have you tried that?
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