benjaminfrog
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SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
So, periodically, Sonar stops responding (usually as the result of a plugin not playing well with others) and I have to exit and relaunch the program. Usually, this does the trick and I'm up and running again in less than a minute. However, occasionally, SONARPDR.exe continues running in the background and, unless I reboot, I can't reopen Sonar for 5 to 10 minutes; i.e., until the executable stops. Anyone know how to force the shutdown of the .exe? I've tried the following command line from the install directory (which has worked on other .exes), but to no avail: taskkill /f /im "sonarpdr.exe" Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Beepster
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:15:41
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Couldn't you just do that in Task Manager? Anyway that sounds super buggy. I'd ask tech support about that one even if just to let them know about the problem.
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benjaminfrog
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:18:32
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Unfortunately, no. I should have mentioned that. It no longer shows up on the Applications tab of Task Manager and when I highlight it and click End Process on the Processes tab nothing happens.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:23:20
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I'm no expert but something is seriously wrong there, man. Maybe a hardware issue? Virus? Registry problem? Hopefully someone here can help but this sounds like it needs a tech support ticket. In the meantime list your specs, hardware and anything you can think of you've done differently recently (installing new programs/plugs/anything) and maybe one of these super smart forum dudes can help you troubleshoot the problem. Good luck and sorry I could not be of more help. Cheers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:28:41
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Hi Benjaminfrog, This is frequently the result of a MIDI device (keyboard, interface or whatnot) keeping the Sonar process open. M-Audio devices are frequent culprits for this...I had a USB Midisport interface for years that would do the same thing. Sadly, even unplugging the interface didn't work...the only solution for me was to reboot. Dean
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:35:04
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Thanks for your responses, Beepster. Although I'd love to find a solution, I'm not that concerned about there being something fundamentally wrong with my system. I don't have this issue with other programs and it's almost always related to a 3rd party plugin I've just clicked on. That said my specs are as follows: Win7 x64 2.8 GHz i7 12 GB RAM 80 GB Intel SSD (OS) Various other internal and external HDs for audio, samples, etc. RME Babyface Let me know if there's other info that would be helpful. Thanks.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:36:11
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@razorwit... Oh man. That would drive me crazy. I'm thinking of getting an Axiom 25 too. Hope it doesn't pull that crap on me.
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benjaminfrog
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:37:31
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Razorwit Hi Benjaminfrog, This is frequently the result of a MIDI device (keyboard, interface or whatnot) keeping the Sonar process open. M-Audio devices are frequent culprits for this...I had a USB Midisport interface for years that would do the same thing. Sadly, even unplugging the interface didn't work...the only solution for me was to reboot. Dean Ahhh... I've got an M-Audio Axiom 25. I wonder if that's it. I'll try killing that the next time it happens. Thanks, Dean!
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:38:44
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Hi If Sonar is not showing up in the Processes tab on Windows Task Manager I would agree there is something wrong here - possibly with the installation - have you tried a fresh install? - with crashes things can get corrupted sometimes Nigel
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benjaminfrog
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:39:31
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Beepster @razorwit... Oh man. That would drive me crazy. I'm thinking of getting an Axiom 25 too. Hope it doesn't pull that crap on me. Mine's a 1st gen. Perhaps the 2nd gens are more reliable.
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Beepster
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:39:50
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Has this problem been persistent since you've been using your current set up or is it a new issue?
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Beepster
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:41:46
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Aw crap... I really wanted the Axiom but not if it's gonna cause problems. I was gonna get a second gen though (or whatever the current model is... I know they've just updated it). Anyway, maybe check to see if there are any updated drivers for your Axiom. That might fix it. Just guessing though. Cheers.
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benjaminfrog
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:43:07
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Bajan Blue Hi If Sonar is not showing up in the Processes tab on Windows Task Manager I would agree there is something wrong here - possibly with the installation - have you tried a fresh install? - with crashes things can get corrupted sometimes Nigel It is showing up on the Processes tab. I just haven't been able to end the process. Thanks for the tip, though. If it winds up not being the M-Audio issue Dean mentioned, I may try a fresh install.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:43:36
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Some of those SSDs can be a little flaky too. Might be starting to fail.
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benjaminfrog
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:45:18
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Beepster Aw crap... I really wanted the Axiom but not if it's gonna cause problems. I was gonna get a second gen though (or whatever the current model is... I know they've just updated it). Anyway, maybe check to see if there are any updated drivers for your Axiom. That might fix it. Just guessing though. Cheers. Good thought. I'll check for newer drivers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:56:15
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Hi folks, Do a forum search for sonarpdr.exe and midiman or m-audio. You'll probably find a few threads talking about this problem. It's been going on for ages. Not sure what interfaces do and don't cause it. In fact, I think here's one from about 5 years ago: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=939514&mpage=1#939535 Dean
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 17:59:41
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Thanks for that, Razorwit. Seriously. I was completely unaware of the M-Audio conflict. It will be factored into my controller purchase research. I love this place. :-)
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 18:20:27
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It is a MIDI driver issue, and it is usually but not exclusively M-Audio. The quickest solution is to reboot. Even after using a kill process I'll sometimes get the good old BSOD if I try to start SOnar again too soon after I've shut it down. It never happens on my laptop but always happens on my main system and the only difference is the MIDI device. I believe it was mentioned on here a while ago by someone in the know from CW but can't find the thread now.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/10 18:34:29
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Hiya, FBB. Hope you are well. That looks like a confirmation on this. What a drag. That Axiom looks like a nice little dealymadoodle... but not ten minutes of load time and BSOD nice. Ugh. More research must be done. Cheers.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 03:28:11
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FWIW, I run Focusrite interfaces on both of my systems and I've never seen this happen.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 04:12:59
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I get this one happening to me about once a week (on a busy week - maybe 15ish hours of work). I'm using the Edirol UA25EX. X1d, i72600, 8gig Ripjaws X, decent Asus MoBo etc. So I don't know... I'm using Asio as WDM is not a happy camper. Doesn't appear to be any plugs or specific behaviour that causes it. I should make a detailed log each time it happens. Got some supposed super task-kill program to try. I'm waiting for another crash now though so I can try it. I've always just restarted except once I kept trying things for 10-15 mins and it cleaned up without a restart. So maybe that would happen every time, but it's faster to just restart. Boo :(
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 05:40:48
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I too have had this issue, and as mentioned it was due to my Delta 1010. I forgot what I did to resolve it. I have since moved on to a MOTU and haven't had an issue since. David
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 10:05:39
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I occasionally have the same issue running a Delta 1010 along with an Axiom 61...just to be clear here...are we saying the sonarpdr.exe process is hard to kill in task manager due to M-audio drivers or are we saying an M-audio product/drivers are causing the issue in the 1st place? Thanks very much, Randy
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 12:51:48
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sonar, for whatever reason, is unable to release the driver... if it's an external soundcard (e.g., usb) then power cycling that unit is faster than fully rebooting the pc, as sonar will be able to close when the device is off and drivers unloaded :-) some of these regular questions should be stickies, or combined into a faq post
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 12:53:41
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I had this a lot with my older Asus MB and M-Audio Axiom 49. Now that I have upgraded Motherboards, I think it went away.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 13:12:20
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i have this all the time happen to me as well during projects. very frustrating indeed. i can only associate it with the usage of plugins, some of the built in ones, and UAD ones. i too agree that this is likely my midisport drivers, even though they are recent and i keep my computer up to date and clean. in X1, the power off doesnt allow Sonar X1 to close like it used to. SOMETIMES in 8.5.2 Sonar would eventually quit (after a power cycle of the MIDISPORT) but not so recently. only solution is to reboot.
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 13:50:12
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hmm... sounds like it's mostly interfaces causing issues. Maybe the Axiom is safe? And I'm curious about the comment regarding just powering down the device. Essentially if I were to encounter this problem just disconnecting the Axiom might allow the process to close normally? I really want that keyboard. I'd hate to have to start my search all over again. :-/
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 14:29:40
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Beep, I'd say if we find out that the drivers aren't causing the issue in the first place (Sonar not responding to where we have to close and restart it) but just taking time to release the drivers after closing sonar....then maybe that shouldn't be a deciding factor because they are good controllers for the money if you ask me. Now if we find they are indeed causing the issue in the first place then to hell with M-Audio!....come to think about it, they were pretty slow getting their 64 bit drivers released
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 15:08:55
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@randy... Yeah, I've been hesitant to buy M-Audio stuff in the past and I never really knew why (I think it was the affiliation with Avid that irked me) but now that I'm here and reading up on stuff it seems that gut instinct may have been at least somewhat correct. Seems like there are a lot of strange issues like this surrounding their stuff at least in regards to Sonar. I just can't afford the fancy Roland stuff at the moment or I'd go that route. IDK... maybe it'll work out but 10 minute long screw ups is pretty bad. At least I'm aware of it now so if something does go wonky I won't be completely stumped. Ugh... it's always something, eh?
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Re:SONARPDR.exe Still Running in Background
2012/07/11 15:12:40
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I'm pretty sure you can use the Axiom as a MIDI device (as in, connect it with a MIDI cable to your interface rather than with an USB cable to your computer), in that case there should be no keyboard-specific drivers in use anyway
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