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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/14 11:36:52
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iToo have done away with iKM (except ARC) ... iKM support is nonexistent, in my repeated experience.
+1 on Waves getting their 64bit and support up-to-date.
Ah yes, I forgot about ARC. I just purchased ARC 2 two weeks ago. That's another one I'll keep up with. Mike
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/14 12:03:32
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I'm starting to realize that I won't be able to keep my DAW of the net much longer, but I keep holding on for a bit - personal paranoia I reckon ...
Anyway, may I ask what you are using as a backup system to be able to fix / rebuild in 30 minutes. I do frequent incremental backups using Acronis, but fear that it might be much longer in case I have to sort out something serious ...
I keep the original data on an internal 2TB drive. I have 2 - 2TB external drives for backups which are on their own power strip. I use Microsoft Sync Toy to keep 2 copies of the internal drive on the external drives. I set Sync Toy to "echo" and not "sync" since this only copies all changes from the source to the destination drivers and note the other way round. I also keep Acronis disk images which are backed up with the other data. Note that these are not file back ups but disk images.
So... if the absolute worst happens and my system drive and all data are gone I just power on my back up drives, run Acronis image restore to the system drive and switch to one of my 2TB external drives for data. Next I'm planning to purchase another 2TB drive to use as an offsite backup which I will keep at my brother's house. When I want to update it I'll just swap it out with one of the drives connected to my PC and run Sync Toy to update it. This way I'll have a total of 4 version of my data, one of which is at another location.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 08:06:35
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iOS is the future. I am not sure why people would get upset about them jumping on top of a new market. And before someone says they have neglected their desktop applications they really haven't if you look at what they have done in the last 3 months with amplitube and T-Racks. They have been doing very good for their desktop stuff. They are just working on ST3 and I for one am excited to get my hands on it.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 11:07:11
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iOS is the future. I am not sure why people would get upset about them jumping on top of a new market. And before someone says they have neglected their desktop applications they really haven't if you look at what they have done in the last 3 months with amplitube and T-Racks. They have been doing very good for their desktop stuff. They are just working on ST3 and I for one am excited to get my hands on it.
Iin the last 3 months: T-Racks: They added one effect (quad series) and packaged it in 4 flavors plus the new channel strip. Amplitube: a few more models. iOS - too many to list The Sampletank application, which is the basis of all their instruments, hasn't been updated in at least 6 years. They announced version 3 over 3 years ago. They say they are working on it but I suspect they have one guy working part time from a basement office on single core/1gb system. He's also responsible for cleaning their offices and getting coffee. Sampletank is their lowest possible priority. When you invest in software and libraries you invest in the company. Sampletank users have been abandoned.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 13:12:46
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iOS is the future. I am not sure why people would get upset about them jumping on top of a new market. And before someone says they have neglected their desktop applications they really haven't if you look at what they have done in the last 3 months with amplitube and T-Racks. They have been doing very good for their desktop stuff. They are just working on ST3 and I for one am excited to get my hands on it.
Iin the last 3 months:
T-Racks: They added one effect (quad series) and packaged it in 4 flavors plus the new channel strip.
Amplitube: a few more models.
iOS - too many to list
The Sampletank application, which is the basis of all their instruments, hasn't been updated in at least 6 years. They announced version 3 over 3 years ago. They say they are working on it but I suspect they have one guy working part time from a basement office on single core/1gb system. He's also responsible for cleaning their offices and getting coffee.
Sampletank is their lowest possible priority. When you invest in software and libraries you invest in the company. Sampletank users have been abandoned.
Its been more like 3 years. Last ST update was 04-08-2010. They updated the Jimi Hendrix amplitube collection and added the orange models. they added the quad series (4 different fx) the british channel, released a new version of custom shop for t-racks, updated csr to 64 bit and released irig Keys which works on pc mac and ios. They have released 7 different ios only products in that time but spread out the releases rather than doing one big release like they did with the new custom shop bc and csr ect. there is a balance there but people forget that or think that these fx come up over night for the sake of it. the ios are mostly ports which to my understanding is much easier to do. they are porting pieces of st3 and releasing them to ios. pieces of amplitube and porting to ios. adapting tech they already have and sending it to ios. for all we know st3 could be being rewritten from the ground up. People are making so much out of nothing especially if you are a Sonar user considering that Sonar 64 bit will load the 32 bit version of Sampletank flawlessly. I see people on KVR complaining about 64 bit and I can understand that J bridge sucks and they want something more stable but what's the complaint here? A lot of plug ins haven't seen updates in that amount of time. Sylenth 1 hasn't been updated in 5 years, the korg legacy collection until recently hadn't seen an update in 4 years, dimension pro hasn't seen an update in like 5 years but nobody complains about that and to be honest Dimension Pro needs an update badly. A lot more badly than ST but nobody complains about that. I am trying not to let my inner fanboy shine through but people give IK a lot of crap over 1 product not being updated as much as the public wants it to be. ST 3 will be out when its ready until then enjoy ST2 its a great plug in.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 15:01:13
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I keep the original data on an internal 2TB drive. I have 2 - 2TB external drives for backups which are on their own power strip. I use Microsoft Sync Toy to keep 2 copies of the internal drive on the external drives. I set Sync Toy to "echo" and not "sync" since this only copies all changes from the source to the destination drivers and note the other way round. I also keep Acronis disk images which are backed up with the other data. Note that these are not file back ups but disk images.
So... if the absolute worst happens and my system drive and all data are gone I just power on my back up drives, run Acronis image restore to the system drive and switch to one of my 2TB external drives for data.
Next I'm planning to purchase another 2TB drive to use as an offsite backup which I will keep at my brother's house. When I want to update it I'll just swap it out with one of the drives connected to my PC and run Sync Toy to update it. This way I'll have a total of 4 version of my data, one of which is at another location.
Thanks. This is great info. I'll switch to disc images. I have meanwhile also started to use 2x 2TB external drives as redundant backups; the idea of storing one in a different place is a good one ... though, if this place burns down I'll have more serious things to worry about than the backup ...
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 15:07:53
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a) 04-08-2010 was a minor fix and not a feature update.
b) It's not "1 product not being updated as much as the public wants it to be" - its over 30gb of libraries that are useless.
c) Dimension Pro is 64bit and works fine.
d) Many people such as myself have showstopping problems with ST in a 64bit environment.
e) People who have purchased virtually all the ST libraries (such as myself) have every right to be mad since we have been blown off for years. It's a 64bit world and it is unacceptable to have a major part of my sample librarys to be left at 32bit. Cheer away for IK if you must but as far as ST is concerned they have created a lot of ill will. I Cakewalk stopped development on Sonar for this long to develop ios apps you'd be pretty annoyed.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 15:10:58
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[...] People are making so much out of nothing especially if you are a Sonar user considering that Sonar 64 bit will load the 32 bit version of Sampletank flawlessly.
I don't quite agree as I have gone from very stable system to a crappy crashing one within one night. At the end of the session we had a lot of good ideas trapped in a 'corrupt' project. It took me more than a week to track down the problem until I finally realized that the Sonar project is not corrupt, but it's just SampleTron that causing all of it. It just wouldn't handle multiple instances of SampleTron properly (something that I do on a regular basis with other VSTs ... which are of course updated and meanwhile 64 bit!)
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 15:15:43
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d) Many people such as myself have showstopping problems with ST in a 64bit environment.
unfortunately you can put me on that list of people ...
e) People who have purchased virtually all the ST libraries (such as myself) have every right to be mad since we have been blown off for years. It's a 64bit world and it is unacceptable to have a major part of my sample librarys to be left at 32bit. Cheer away for IK if you must but as far as ST is concerned they have created a lot of ill will. I Cakewalk stopped development on Sonar for this long to develop ios apps you'd be pretty annoyed.
very sad but true, cakewalk does a very similar thing: they pretty much stopped developing X2 for control surfaces (apart from some fixes in every 3rd or 4th release version) for the sake of touch screen. they made a lot of high end user really mad ...
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 18:30:03
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I like the comment about iOS being the future. That remains to be seen. Since Jobs' death, Apple has not released anything new and has been repackaging the same thing in different boxes and they're made of ticky tacky. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Apple will go downhill eventually.
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Rain
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 19:38:36
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I like the comment about iOS being the future. That remains to be seen. Since Jobs' death, Apple has not released anything new and has been repackaging the same thing in different boxes and they're made of ticky tacky. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Apple will go downhill eventually.
Uh, Steve Job died in 2011.. Since then, they've released a new OS and multiple revisions, they've released the new retina display MacBooks, they've launched a new series of iMac. They're allegedly working on the new Mac Pro and have confirmed being at work on a new version of Logic. Some things which were introduced shortly before Jobs passed like Thunderbolt, are now standard on Mac. What else are we expecting? That they poor out products just for the sake of it and re-invent the wheel every 4 months? I wish Apple doesn't vanish any time soon, not only for my own sake as a Mac user, but for all PC users, because, looking at Windows 8, tablets and Android phone, it's very clear that almost every new trend is set by Apple. For example, as a Sonar user, you can thank Apple for designing what Cakewalk calls the Skylight interface. A world w/o Apple would be like, I don't know, Behringer w/o Mackie People may not be willing to pay the price asked by Apple, they may hate the company for various reason, justified or not, but they still want what Apple develops and has to offer - just not from Apple.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 19:47:12
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Also notice that, while we can't say for sure about the future, people keep on putting down iOS and Apple, but if we take a step back and take a look at Windows 8, smartphone and tablets, the whole world has gone wacko on tablets and smartphones. IK also develops for Android. Took longer because of the latency issue IIRC. People can hate Apple for starting the trend, but Microsoft and the rest of the guys are all obsessed trying to catch up, and so far, none of them has offered an alternative that could reverse this trend. From my limited exposure to TV in the last 2 years or so, nothing is as annoyingly trendy as Windows 8 and the Gesture tablet.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 21:46:59
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a) 04-08-2010 was a minor fix and not a feature update.
b) It's not "1 product not being updated as much as the public wants it to be" - its over 30gb of libraries that are useless.
c) Dimension Pro is 64bit and works fine.
d) Many people such as myself have showstopping problems with ST in a 64bit environment.
e) People who have purchased virtually all the ST libraries (such as myself) have every right to be mad since we have been blown off for years. It's a 64bit world and it is unacceptable to have a major part of my sample librarys to be left at 32bit. Cheer away for IK if you must but as far as ST is concerned they have created a lot of ill will. I Cakewalk stopped development on Sonar for this long to develop ios apps you'd be pretty annoyed.
I own everything IK offers on the desktop except for Arc including all of the ST libraries. I am not annoyed at all nor do I have any issues running ST in 64 bit Sonar. I am surprised anyone else does. With Jbridge in Live that's another story but why be mad at IK for the bridge crashing on you and not the creator of the bridge itself? It sounds like the bridge is being faulty for you. And its very different to compare the development of Sonar to the development of Sampletank. A better comparison would be when was the last time you saw a major update to Rapture or Dimension Pro? Those don't annoy me either. 64 bit for some products don't even make a lot of sense unless you have bridge issues and ST is one of those cases. I'd even say Dimension pro is one of those cases. Its not like those products eat up ram . FreeFlyBertl
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[...] People are making so much out of nothing especially if you are a Sonar user considering that Sonar 64 bit will load the 32 bit version of Sampletank flawlessly.
I don't quite agree as I have gone from very stable system to a crappy crashing one within one night. At the end of the session we had a lot of good ideas trapped in a 'corrupt' project. It took me more than a week to track down the problem until I finally realized that the Sonar project is not corrupt, but it's just SampleTron that causing all of it. It just wouldn't handle multiple instances of SampleTron properly (something that I do on a regular basis with other VSTs ... which are of course updated and meanwhile 64 bit!)
I haven't had a single Sampletank related crash on my system with running Sonar's bridge and ST2. This is odd and the first time I have ever heard of this. Still though its 32 bit software meant to be run in 32 bit. I still think rushing them to put out 64 bit is only going to cause individuals frusteration because IK has already said they are just going to release it with ST3.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 21:55:55
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Rain
Also notice that, while we can't say for sure about the future, people keep on putting down iOS and Apple, but if we take a step back and take a look at Windows 8, smartphone and tablets, the whole world has gone wacko on tablets and smartphones.
IK also develops for Android. Took longer because of the latency issue IIRC.
People can hate Apple for starting the trend, but Microsoft and the rest of the guys are all obsessed trying to catch up, and so far, none of them has offered an alternative that could reverse this trend.
From my limited exposure to TV in the last 2 years or so, nothing is as annoyingly trendy as Windows 8 and the Gesture tablet.
Calm down. Where in there did I say I hate Apple? When I say, "it remains to be seen", it means that Apple almost went under in the 90s when Jobs was gone. He came back and Apple came back. They may have had a few "new" products out now but they are still just small improvements on the same tech. The retinal display was probably concieved while Jobs was still around and it took a while to perfect it. I don't know for sure but the fact remains, "it remains to be seen."
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 22:05:22
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I've been in the computer business since long before personal computers existed, so I've seen a lot of trends/fads/next-big-things come and go. iOS may indeed morph into something over time, and will remain popular with texters and game-players in the meantime, but it's much too limited a platform for any serious computing. When I see Photoshop, Vegas and AutoCad ported over and taking marketshare, then I may re-evaluate my dismissal of iOS.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 22:44:01
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I've been in the computer business since long before personal computers existed, so I've seen a lot of trends/fads/next-big-things come and go. iOS may indeed morph into something over time, and will remain popular with texters and game-players in the meantime, but it's much too limited a platform for any serious computing. When I see Photoshop, Vegas and AutoCad ported over and taking marketshare, then I may re-evaluate my dismissal of iOS.
I think it has more to do with exposure. We live in an era where as long as you can kind of do something you will run with it in computing. Right now iOS is limited sure but think 10 years from now. It will be a very powerful platform. Many people are not buying new computers and simply use their phonse for their computing needs these days unless you have a real need for a computer. I believe that in 5 to 10 years we will see some kid making hit records on his mom's iphone. Look at the mobile market for music production. People want to go mobile and what is more mobile than a cell phone or a tablet? I was at a wedding a year ago where the dj did a full set from his iphone and probably used irig mix too i didn't see the mixer but it just goes to show where the world is going to. Will it kill off desktop production? only if you want it to. but if you are a kid who has only been exposed to an ipad for music making you will make it work.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/15 22:48:52
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ios is an option certainly not the future ;)
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/16 00:43:31
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I've been in the computer business since long before personal computers existed, so I've seen a lot of trends/fads/next-big-things come and go. iOS may indeed morph into something over time, and will remain popular with texters and game-players in the meantime, but it's much too limited a platform for any serious computing. When I see Photoshop, Vegas and AutoCad ported over and taking marketshare, then I may re-evaluate my dismissal of iOS.
Mobile is already entrenched in business markets. For the applications it excels at (which happen to be serious business apps not requiring serious computing power), it is not going away. If iOS goes away it will be at the hands of Android or Windows. The applications you mentioned would never work on tablets anyway. You need way too much screen space to do anything on the current batch of iOS devices. Even if you could retrofit them with Mind-like processing power, the form factor would still slow you down. As for iOS apps for music, I wouldn't mind turning my phone into a headphone amp for my guitar, and playing a synth Animoog on my wife's iPad (which her company subsidized for her job) is vaguely entertaining, but running a DAW on a tablet would be a bit cramped.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/16 01:08:48
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Rain
Also notice that, while we can't say for sure about the future, people keep on putting down iOS and Apple, but if we take a step back and take a look at Windows 8, smartphone and tablets, the whole world has gone wacko on tablets and smartphones.
IK also develops for Android. Took longer because of the latency issue IIRC.
People can hate Apple for starting the trend, but Microsoft and the rest of the guys are all obsessed trying to catch up, and so far, none of them has offered an alternative that could reverse this trend.
From my limited exposure to TV in the last 2 years or so, nothing is as annoyingly trendy as Windows 8 and the Gesture tablet.
Calm down. Where in there did I say I hate Apple? When I say, "it remains to be seen", it means that Apple almost went under in the 90s when Jobs was gone. He came back and Apple came back.
They may have had a few "new" products out now but they are still just small improvements on the same tech. The retinal display was probably concieved while Jobs was still around and it took a while to perfect it. I don't know for sure but the fact remains, "it remains to be seen."
I am calm. :) And didn't mean to imply that you personally hated Apple. Sorry if it sounded like that. I do however see that much of what's being said about Apple is rarely rational. That goes for both fanboys and haters, and even people who don't care that much. Yes, Retina display was already being developed while Job was still around. And the concept was further improved upon and recently made its way into laptops. Were they going to give up on a promising idea just so it doesn't look like they're out of new ideas? And following that rational, if it took them years to bring it to completion, isn't it only normal that what they are currently developing would only be coming some time in the future? In other words, how is the fact that they currently release technologies that they've worked on for a couple of years a proof that they have no new ideas? Computers, laptops, tablets and phones - whatever Apple releases is likely to be a variation of one of those, anyway. Notice that personally, I don't care much for iOS at this time. And unless the entire paradigm of how we record and mix changes, we will need traditional computers. But, what if, say, voice recognition evolves like mad and we suddenly don't need to click and push onscreen buttons, and such? (I'm just picking any random example, however little sense it makes). DAWs and the way our music is presented to us, as clips on a timeline, w/ channel strips and all - none of that is necessarily the last step in the evolution of recording.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/16 21:16:19
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Also notice that, while we can't say for sure about the future, people keep on putting down iOS and Apple, but if we take a step back and take a look at Windows 8, smartphone and tablets, the whole world has gone wacko on tablets and smartphones.
IK also develops for Android. Took longer because of the latency issue IIRC.
People can hate Apple for starting the trend, but Microsoft and the rest of the guys are all obsessed trying to catch up, and so far, none of them has offered an alternative that could reverse this trend.
From my limited exposure to TV in the last 2 years or so, nothing is as annoyingly trendy as Windows 8 and the Gesture tablet.
Calm down. Where in there did I say I hate Apple? When I say, "it remains to be seen", it means that Apple almost went under in the 90s when Jobs was gone. He came back and Apple came back.
They may have had a few "new" products out now but they are still just small improvements on the same tech. The retinal display was probably concieved while Jobs was still around and it took a while to perfect it. I don't know for sure but the fact remains, "it remains to be seen."
I am calm. :) And didn't mean to imply that you personally hated Apple. Sorry if it sounded like that.
I do however see that much of what's being said about Apple is rarely rational. That goes for both fanboys and haters, and even people who don't care that much.
Yes, Retina display was already being developed while Job was still around. And the concept was further improved upon and recently made its way into laptops.
Were they going to give up on a promising idea just so it doesn't look like they're out of new ideas?
And following that rational, if it took them years to bring it to completion, isn't it only normal that what they are currently developing would only be coming some time in the future? In other words, how is the fact that they currently release technologies that they've worked on for a couple of years a proof that they have no new ideas?
Computers, laptops, tablets and phones - whatever Apple releases is likely to be a variation of one of those, anyway.
Notice that personally, I don't care much for iOS at this time. And unless the entire paradigm of how we record and mix changes, we will need traditional computers.
But, what if, say, voice recognition evolves like mad and we suddenly don't need to click and push onscreen buttons, and such? (I'm just picking any random example, however little sense it makes). DAWs and the way our music is presented to us, as clips on a timeline, w/ channel strips and all - none of that is necessarily the last step in the evolution of recording.
Voice recognition. I think this is going to be the biggest advancment to come next. I don't think it will happen until 128bit computing though. That and cars that drive themselves are what I hope to see before I go on daisy patrol.
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If I trust my experiences of trying to call someone using vocal commands in the car w/ the iPhone, I wouldn't hold my breath either. ;)
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Ok...I have no real clue what this thread is about...and I've already had my martini and have sallied forth into a lovely Shiraz...but I'll be glad to say "I hate Apple". Mainly because they force you to do things and behave in what they deem as appropriate manner and are so proprietary as to be dickwadish...if that's a word...and if its not it ought to be. Screw Steve Jobs and the horse he rode in on.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/16 21:47:27
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Apple is coming out with another iPad...
It's going to have a 14" screen...
It will be called...
The MaxiPad
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/16 22:15:55
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yorolpal
Ok...I have no real clue what this thread is about...and I've already had my martini and have sallied forth into a lovely Shiraz...but I'll be glad to say "I hate Apple". Mainly because they force you to do things and behave in what they deem as appropriate manner and are so proprietary as to be dickwadish...if that's a word...and if its not it ought to be. Screw Steve Jobs and the horse he rode in on.
Sent from my iPad....
Oh, the irony!!!
I used to say that I didn't like Apple. Then Cakewalk announced X1, I bought a MacBook and Logic, and now, life is as cool as Martinis and Shiraz. ;)
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2013/03/16 23:17:54
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I wish Apple doesn't vanish any time soon, not only for my own sake as a Mac user, but for all PC users, because, looking at Windows 8, tablets and Android phone, it's very clear that almost every new trend is set by Apple.
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People may not be willing to pay the price asked by Apple, they may hate the company for various reason, justified or not, but they still want what Apple develops and has to offer - just not from Apple.
This has been going on from the inception of Windows itself. Many of you may recall that the original Windows interface was..um.."inspired" by the old Apple OS. As was Tandy's OS-9(which ran on the CoCo2 and 3) Whatever or views of Apple and iOS, there's no denying their influence on the world as we know it. I can't say I blame IK for going where the money is. They gotta eat, too. Hopefully, as suggested earlier, PC software development is being funded by some of that income.
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2013/03/17 00:18:27
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why be mad at IK for the bridge crashing on you and not the creator of the bridge itself? It sounds like the bridge is being faulty for you. A bridge is a band-aid. So we should be mad at this one guy who makes a product, that by it's very nature, is coming closer and closer to obsolescence instead of IK who makes the last 32bit sampler on the planet? Right.
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2013/03/17 00:32:30
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When software isn't updated, issues will eventually show up. As an example, I have no doubt that for a while in the past, SampleTron, SampleMoog and the other library/players - which haven't been updated since 2009, by the way - worked just fine under Mac OS. As of (not so) recently however, some of us are experiencing an issue causing instrument loading time to increase exponentially for each new patch we audition, making the host irresponsive. This could be due to anything - an update in some of the components of the OS itself or something like that. Since the plug-ins aren't updated, glitches and bugs crawl in... The workaround would be to use SampleTank to load those samples. Which is already a compromise, but, hey... Only problem is that, every time I've messed w/ IK instruments' sample directories, I've had to re-authorize every single instrument (on top of re-downloading the buggy authorization manager several times because it kept prompting me for an update randomly between authorizations). Anyway, long story short, it took me forever. And I said - so long IK. Now, if IK had only maintained its software and kept it up to date - not re-invent the whole thing w/ a new GUI and new features and whatsoever, but just made sure that their currently available products work correctly NOW, not 3 years ago, I personally couldn't care less how long it'd take them to develop ST 3. They may never develop it for all I care. Incidentally, all of my issues w/ ST and ST instruments are native 32 bit issue - I'm not yet using my host in 64 bits.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/17 03:12:53
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Apple is coming out with another iPad...
It's going to have a 14" screen...
It will be called...
The MaxiPad
They've got much bigger than that already - how about 27". ;) 
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2013/03/17 10:23:42
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i have a dual boot is use for other stuff (reall ineternt and gaming sometime )
the thing is that on my main daw (desktop ) i don't have and wifi card installed ...so it's a pain to upadte and all and for exemple , the Tracks grand Deluxe can't be installed in and offline procedure (i'm talikning aboy=ut the additional new plugins that need to be restored via the shop to install the dll , this shop can't be lauched off line) ....
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/20 22:02:32
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WOW. I spend some time enjoying live music in Austin for SXSW and I come back to this. Interesting, your concerns haven't fallen on deaf ears, we are indeed in development. A GUI was shown at NAMM to select few and we ARE INDEED set for a 2013 release. As for a more exact date....well that'll be a surprise.
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