vintagevibe
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/20 22:50:04
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IK Obi
WOW. I spend some time enjoying live music in Austin for SXSW and I come back to this. Interesting, your concerns haven't fallen on deaf ears, we are indeed in development. A GUI was shown at NAMM to select few and we ARE INDEED set for a 2013 release. As for a more exact date....well that'll be a surprise.
Perhaps, but it's your lowest priority. I suspect they've budgeted a part timer working in the basement for $10 an hour working on a single core system with 2 gig s of RAM.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/21 01:30:37
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IK Obi
WOW. I spend some time enjoying live music in Austin for SXSW and I come back to this. Interesting, your concerns haven't fallen on deaf ears, we are indeed in development. A GUI was shown at NAMM to select few and we ARE INDEED set for a 2013 release. As for a more exact date....well that'll be a surprise.
Obi please simple answers for simple questions : 1) can you show us the gui 2) do all those sampletank 2.5 based instruments (samplmoog sampletron ect) will be usable and compatible with the S3 engine ...thos deals arec crazy ... 3) will you offer upgrades great option for total bundles owners ? 4) i keep having points that i never use cause we never can on promos ....basically people never use them unless they pay some the full price ....! 5)people own several times products , for exemple i already own t-rack grand and gonna buy total studio maybe ...why we never have option to upgrade (i'm not talking upgrdae to a promo deal , wxitch could be even greater !!)
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/21 07:41:05
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I agree with the delays on ST, but I gotta say that their verbs, compressors, and ARC are the bomb and 64 bit.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/21 08:04:40
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I've had Sample Tank FREE in my account for over a year but I've never downloaded or installed it
Is this a lite version?
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/21 13:30:44
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@zo - 1) No. 2) SampleTank 3 will be backwards compatible with all of our current libraries. 3) Still to be determined. We focus on the development and then the pricing/upgrading and such. 4)Thats the point. They are for people that don't want to wait and would still like a discount. If there is already a discount then they aren't eligible. You can also use them to buy credits in the Custom Shop for T-Racks or AmpliTube gear modes. 5) For the Total Workstation and Total Studio Bundles, there isn't an upgrade option. But it is something we are looking into for the future.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/22 15:46:16
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IK Obi
@zo - 1) No. 2) SampleTank 3 will be backwards compatible with all of our current libraries. 3) Still to be determined. We focus on the development and then the pricing/upgrading and such. 4)Thats the point. They are for people that don't want to wait and would still like a discount. If there is already a discount then they aren't eligible. You can also use them to buy credits in the Custom Shop for T-Racks or AmpliTube gear modes. 5) For the Total Workstation and Total Studio Bundles, there isn't an upgrade option. But it is something we are looking into for the future.
Since you're here quite a bit lately could you please answer my question to my previous post? "I've had Sample Tank FREE in my account for over a year but I've never downloaded or installed it. Is this a lite version?" Thanks
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/22 15:55:59
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IK Obi
WOW. I spend some time enjoying live music in Austin for SXSW and I come back to this. Interesting, your concerns haven't fallen on deaf ears, we are indeed in development. A GUI was shown at NAMM to select few and we ARE INDEED set for a 2013 release. As for a more exact date....well that'll be a surprise.
if the IK staff were as good at developing / releaseing updates instead of spamming up my FB page with spam for i-apps.. then I'd be happier.. I really suggest they use another FB page for people who do pc music as I don't want to know about such apps.. every time they post one.. just ask where is 64 bit pc apps ? like I do.. maybe they'll get the hint also IK's money making racket for downloads + transfers STINKS compared to other companies who do not charge.
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/22 21:02:06
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@Carl, sorry I missed the question. Nope, its full featured. The only difference is the Sound Library. @Fog Sorry you feel that way. We do post various things and not just our apps. We post videos, pictures and share tons of our partners stuff. Either way, 27,000 seem to be liking what we are posting. 64 Bit is on its way this year along with a few other surprises that AREN'T just iOS.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/22 21:20:32
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IK Obi
@Carl, sorry I missed the question. Nope, its full featured. The only difference is the Sound Library. Thanks!
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 00:21:52
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Fog
also IK's money making racket for downloads + transfers STINKS compared to other companies who do not charge.
Since they've been on sale every few months forever, just the cost of the license transfer makes it prohibitive to even try and sell it. That's if you manage to find someone who doesn't one everything at this point. But that's all part of the plan - when ST 3 finally comes out, you'll have plenty of reasons to buy the upgrade, just to run all those libraries. ;) Though, in all fairness, IK is most likely to release a free "shell" version on ST w/ which you'll be able to use all your current libraries. Like, I don't know, SampleTank custom shop.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 00:45:02
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oh gewd please not a sampletank 3 customshop. it is there model so far....damn I hope not.
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Rain
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 02:39:40
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Well, it wouldn't have the advantages...
After all, the Custom Shop works well for Amplitube and T-Racks because the additional models are already in there and you only need to unlock them, either for trial or by buying them.
Unless they made you download a 40 GB installer featuring all their libraries, I hardly see how they could offer the same type of "convenience" in Sample Tank.
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Zo
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 11:05:23
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Thks obi
may i ask if other instruments like sample tron and samplemoog will be "openable" in Sampletank 3 ?
if yes it makes sens to buy the totale now and then upgrade to the S3 to have fun ;)
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 13:14:45
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Yes, all of our Virtual Instrument libraries will open in the upcoming SampleTank 3.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 14:21:19
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I, for one, will not be purchasing anything IK from henceforth...
I almost did the T-Racks Grande Upgrade from Deluxe...but
then realized how stupid it would be...
I've done my due...
Too many other well supported options out there...
Just sorry I wasted my money...
Should have used it on the "other" options...
As Alanis says....YOU LIVE...YOU LEARN...
As the others have stated... iAM done with iK...
Waiting 3 years for an upgrade...is ludicrous.
But you only have to wait 4 days for an upgrade to your iWhatever...
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/23 22:30:46
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I'm sorry you feel that way. Last year we updated our Mac/PC software faaaaar more than our iOS apps. Best of luck with your music making though. Hopefully SampleTank 3 will impress you enough for you to hop in one of our future threads.
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JohnKenn
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 00:01:36
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Guys, Gut level apology to Obi for the rash of **** in the ancient past, over the i stuff. Got to evaluate his evaluation that things are running to mobile aps. Hope it benfits others. I don't have an i anything and maybe therefore missing out on the revolution and the benefits I'm too dense to take advantage of. Old age technology here with a bulky PC running everything in the studio and I'm fine with that. From the PC perspective, voiced by other members, Amplitube, dynamite rig could be Amp 6 by now if the resources had not been drawn off to the i apps. Note about Sampletank and the other free libraries. 32 bit and the samples are too frequency limited. Ain't no Kontact. However the IK instruments offer a strong plus for Sonar users or the likes of Studio One... Probably the only guy left pressing this shortfall in Sonar, where sampltank helps bail me out until the issue in Sonar is addressed. Think everyone else has either given up or moved to Reaper or an EnergyXT patch for a fix. Sonar is stuck in ancient time, refusal to move forward in handling vsti's. Correct me if I is wrong, but don't think I am.... Unless you are Bit who can handle a one synth input with elegance, some tech help is needed to compensate for talent like I got to rely upon. Then there are clients who want thick sounds produced quickly. Sampletank loads several layers across the spectrum. Elegant panning and stereo presentation up with the best of them. What may be missing in the quality of a single sample is easily made up for by layering. Got to respect also that Sampletank free and the likes of Amitube free version are offered to some kid (or adult) who could not otherwise afford a pro ap. This stuff is good, and a humble thanks to IK for offering this portal. John edited to tone down rant and fix spellling err's...
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 15:45:15
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Thanks for the kind words and support John
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 15:55:29
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IK Obi
I'm sorry you feel that way. Last year we updated our Mac/PC software faaaaar more than our iOS apps. Best of luck with your music making though. Hopefully SampleTank 3 will impress you enough for you to hop in one of our future threads.
This is true Obi... Because you weren't UPDATING THEM...YOU WERE RELEASING THEM... Nice play on words... But the iCrap Apps....get updated in DAYS when required... And here....FOUR ENTIRE YEARS and 150 iApps LATER - NO SampleTank 3... That is completely unacceptable to me... Everyone else.... Please feel free to spend your money on it...
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 18:39:39
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Guys, The thoughts/debates here got me dusting off SampleTank to take another look. Still stuck in time with the samples not as broad spectrum as newer stuff in the Kontakt libraries, but check this out anyway. Attached an fx patch for Sampletank doing strings out of its own library. Thrown together in a couple minutes without any fine tuning that would have made it better.
Sound is worth a thousand words, so fire this one up and makes a credible argument that even the old 32 bit version rocks. Also connection for me with an intuitive interface that allows quick audition of an individual sample and good control under the hood of each sample.
Took several layers, but could use these strings anywhere. [link=http://en.swoopshare.com/...6fff/strings.ikmp.html%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E]http://en.swoopshare.com/...tml%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E[/link]
John K (Got to fix the forum input. Drag having to edit everything to get fonts in some similar size. Even using almighty MS Explorer...)
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IK Obi
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 19:51:10
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People tend to forget that the sound of any audio software is what really counts. People are STILL using these plugins for production on hits, movies and TV scores everyday. We are working on SampleTank 3 right now, it is expected to release this year. Complaining more about it isn't going to change it, we are in the process of giving you what you all want and have been asking for. For now, these sound libraries are listed at great prices (Especially with our promos) and will be able to be used with the next generation of SampleTank.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 22:31:10
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As I said...and the "junkies" will pile their money on regardless...
Feel free to spend your money on it...and then wait
another 4 years for the upgrade...the clock starts ticking at release...tick tock..
While every thing "I" continues to be supported and updated regularly...
We now return you to your regular scheduled propaganda....I mean, programming...
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/24 22:50:14
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IK Obi
Complaining more about it isn't going to change it, we are in the process of giving you what you all want and have been asking for. Geeze, ol pal. You kinda make this like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure if you re-read the sentence above and really think about what it is saying to existing and potential customers you, hopefully, will re-evaluate it...re-formulate it...and re-state it in a more user friendly and customer oriented way. Or at least one would hope. The petulance of your sentiments cannot be overstated. Would you pests simply quit complaining and take WHAT we decide to give you WHEN we decide to give it to you. After all YOU are simply the customer base that has...up to the current time...provided us with all our income and job security...but nevermind that...we will decide what you should have and when you should have it. Now, kindly, shut the hell up, until we toss a crumb your way will ya?? I'll give you this...complaining certainly, so far, hasn't done any good as between IK and SoundToys it's a race to see who's the slowest to port to 64bit. And...as to giving us what we REALLY want, IK has basically slapped us in the face for over two years now. How long should we continue to turn the other cheek, ol pal? If you weren't working for them, how long would you??
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/25 08:07:15
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IK Obi
Complaining more about it isn't going to change it, we are in the process of giving you what you all want and have been asking for.
Geeze, ol pal. You kinda make this like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure if you re-read the sentence above and really think about what it is saying to existing and potential customers you, hopefully, will re-evaluate it...re-formulate it...and re-state it in a more user friendly and customer oriented way. Or at least one would hope.
The petulance of your sentiments cannot be overstated. Would you pests simply quit complaining and take WHAT we decide to give you WHEN we decide to give it to you. After all YOU are simply the customer base that has...up to the current time...provided us with all our income and job security...but nevermind that...we will decide what you should have and when you should have it. Now, kindly, shut the hell up, until we toss a crumb your way will ya??
I'll give you this...complaining certainly, so far, hasn't done any good as between IK and SoundToys it's a race to see who's the slowest to port to 64bit. And...as to giving us what we REALLY want, IK has basically slapped us in the face for over two years now. How long should we continue to turn the other cheek, ol pal? If you weren't working for them, how long would you??
+1,000,000 Obi, we realize you are just the messenger and just doing your job....just as Andrew does here...even in the face of being completely wrong, you have an "obligation" to defend the "provider" of your bread... As the Customer, we really only have ONE SURE WAY to voice our displeasure and dissatisfaction....as all the rants over the past few years about it haven't been worth a HILL OF BEANS.....JUST DON'T BUY THE PRODUCT... When IK Mutli-iApps realizes that they've LOST their PC and Mac Customers, due to lack of support, THEN maybe something will change....probably the Corporate name to what's above...as the PC and Mac customers have been TRULY left high and dry... Ozone has already kicked T-Racks to the curb... Guitar Rig and others are kickin' the pants off of Amplitube.. Kontakt and Alchemy have beat the snot out of SampleTank... AND if you people seriously want to literally throw good money after bad...then, by all means, invest more of your hard earned cash and wait another 4 years for the next upgrade... NOT ONE of my 64 bit IK PC programs will work in stand alone in Win 8 with my Quad Capture...yet every other program I have works perfectly fine in stand alone.....has there been any movement towards a Win 8 compatible update to the IK Programs.....NOPE....even with a YEAR of beta test time and 6 months after the release of Win 8. IK is DEAD as far as their PC apps goes...you might as well face it...it's their LOWEST priority...proven by their iFrenzy in both Hardware and Apps...both release wise and update wise... As I stated previously, i'M done...I'm not wasting another penny on a company that, as Yorolpal stated, is going to TELL you to F Off and you'll get it when we're ready...and NO SOONER... even though its 2 years late to the table...
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Guitarpima
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/25 08:22:45
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IK Obi
People tend to forget that the sound of any audio software is what really counts. People are STILL using these plugins for production on hits, movies and TV scores everyday. We are working on SampleTank 3 right now, it is expected to release this year. Complaining more about it isn't going to change it, we are in the process of giving you what you all want and have been asking for. For now, these sound libraries are listed at great prices (Especially with our promos) and will be able to be used with the next generation of SampleTank.
I for one am not complaining about these products as sounds. They are very nice. I am complaining about having them and not being able to use them. Once they're 64bit, we'll all be singing the praises of the Sampletank again. Hopefully a more ledgable GUI is in the works as well. I look forward to the next generation but it's been how long since you've been saying, "it won't be long now?" You'll just have to look past the rhetoric until "the next generation" is released. As Freddie say's, "64bit, it really matters."
post edited by Guitarpima - 2013/03/25 08:24:01
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/26 09:07:05
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Well I am glad that we at least will be able to use the current sound libraries with the new Sampletank when it will be released. that's at least something ;)
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/26 09:45:50
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Ozone has already kicked T-Racks to the curb... As someone who owns most of the IKMM products, I can relate to the frustration of iApps (which are of no use to me) being developed/released while we wait for PC apps/plugins. That said, I think the quoted statement goes a bit far.  I much prefer the T-Racks CS Grand bundle to Ozone. Feature wise, Kontakt is far more advanced than SampleTank-2... but you can also say that about HALion and Mach 5v3 (which is probably the closest competitor). IMO, A lot of these decisions that we don't fully understand... are the result of a company having to do what's necessary to continue growing and staying in business. Read making money... Long-time Cakewalk users remember we went thru this same thing with Cakewalk/Sonar. Sonar is currently one of the most (if not the most) advanced DAW applications currently available. But if you remember back far enough, advanced features often lagged behind Logic, Cubase, Samplitude, etc. It seemed the company was more focused on the "hobbiest" than the "pro". Bad in the short-term for "power-users"... but a good long-term business decision. There aren't enough serious/pro users to keep a growing software company in business. The casual user has to be a major part of the equation. I'm certainly anxious/curious to see SampleTank-3 Just some food for thought...
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/26 10:30:06
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Well said and put in a proper perspective Jim.
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/26 10:52:54
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cclarry
Guitar Rig and others are kickin' the pants off of Amplitube..
With all due respect, Guitar Rig hasn't been updated in a year and a half and offers nothing new in Komplete 9. During the same time period, IK has released nearly 20 new gear models for AmpliTube.
post edited by jma - 2013/03/26 10:55:14
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vintagevibe
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Re:SampleTank
2013/03/26 11:25:15
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Jim Roseberry
Long-time Cakewalk users remember we went thru this same thing with Cakewalk/Sonar. Sonar is currently one of the most (if not the most) advanced DAW applications currently available. But if you remember back far enough, advanced features often lagged behind Logic, Cubase, Samplitude, etc.
It seemed the company was more focused on the "hobbiest" than the "pro".
If you need notation, video or VST3 you're still going through this with Sonar. As far as video and notation are concerned, I'm convinced that Cakewalk has made a strategic decision to remain behind the industry and stay "hobbiest" in those areas. Perhaps some people think IK has made a similar decision with ST3. I think IK just had to make strategic decisions given the world economy and we ST users were the ones who had to be thrown under the bus.
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