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2013/03/07 17:12:54 (permalink)

SampleTank

You'll be quite happy to know that SampleTank 

FOR iPhone

http://www.ikmultimedia.c...top-news/?item_id=2256

Has just been updated!!

Even though SampleTank for the PC hasn't been updated in YEARS!!!

Thanks Again iK!!!!


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/07 17:59:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
iGive up.....................................

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/07 19:44:13 (permalink)
Why am iNotsurprised??

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/07 20:17:54 (permalink)
iDon'tknow...

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/07 20:18:01 (permalink)
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/08 04:35:20 (permalink)
iHave stopped using ST

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/08 13:55:47 (permalink)
in some IK forum post from last year I read that sample tank is going 64 bit in 2013 ... they should have stuck to that plan rather than doing more iRubbish

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/08 14:25:00 (permalink)
iSuppose the $$$$ market for iApps is what really talks......the rest is on the backburner.  

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 00:23:33 (permalink)
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iSuppose the $$$$ market for iApps is what really talks......the rest is on the backburner.  
One would hope that the profit from the apps market is funding the development of ST3 and when it does come its going to be something special, not just a tweaked 64 bit version of 2.5.
 
Strange thing, I am probably one of those people the iStuff could be useful to. I work away and travel a lot, but have I had the slightest inclination to check any of it out - no. I hate touch screens for starters and I carry enough stuff around as it is without adding an iPad.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 12:35:43 (permalink)
Ibought a lot of Istuff from Ik
Iused it for a bit
Igot bored with it
Idont use it anymore Ionly use my Ipad for the Internet
Iam through

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 16:27:06 (permalink)
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 16:32:54 (permalink)
iWould sell most of that stuff.
iDon't use it anyway.
But iWouldn't make a dime because of the transfer fee.

Plus, it hasn't been updated for years and has been on sale for just as long. It has no monetary value. 

If time is money, it isn't even worth trying to sell them because I'd actually be paying to get rid of them.


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 16:35:28 (permalink)
IWish there was a NEW SAMPLE TANK 3

VAPOUR WARE??

ohhh wait they are steady working on IKRAP...

no time or interest in REAL Instruments

but the wave of the futureis IKrap... I hope knot ..

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 22:18:22 (permalink)
iDon't care if I ever see another iphone product. IK Obi, how about an explanation of why your company keeps dumping on those that got them in the game.
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/09 22:35:04 (permalink)
I'm still examining my fancy phone, looking for the MIDI and USB ports and how to enable phantom power. Once I figure that out, I'm sure I'll be recording all my one-track projects on it.


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 03:50:07 (permalink)
There's no doubt that IK has let us down. I just don't think it's justifiable. The promises are almost sickening at this point. I just hate how they do the promises tease...all the time! They have all but killed this product.

If they really have (which is very questionable at this point) put all this time into ST3, I think they are going to be very disappointed in sales. Just about everyone has moved on with the vast amount of choices that we have available.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 08:17:01 (permalink)
Even if ST3 ever happens, I doubt I'll upgrade.

I've meanwhile collected a nice set of tools from other companies and the upgrade procedure of the TRackS CS (which I still consider good stuff) taught me a lesson! You download several hundred MBs, install and authorize it and nothing really is installed/working until you push some button in an custom shop application which crashes without internet connection!!!

I just was not possible at all to get it working without an internet connection. IK support kept giving me useless posts on what to try. I wasted a week until I dismantled the DAW and dragged it to a room with internet just to push that bloody button ...

For all serious users who keep their DAWs of the internet this is an harassment. This experience and all the iToys releases really make me wonder whether their software is still intended for high quality applications or if it's just trash ...


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 08:18:01 (permalink)
 
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 10:40:13 (permalink)
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For all serious users who keep their DAWs of the internet this is an harassment. This experience and all the iToys releases really make me wonder whether their software is still intended for high quality applications or if it's just trash ... 

I'm with you on IK letting us down etc... but I think the day of not having a DAW on the internet is pretty much over.  I'm a professional user and have always had my DAW on the internet.  Licensing and down loading is a nightmare without it and it gets more so every day.  With proper precautions you will be fine.   If my system was totally wiped out I'd be back up and running in 30 minutes from my disk image and data backups which are stored on drives that are only power on when needed. I really think that keeping a DAW off the internet is a lost battle.
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 11:54:52 (permalink)
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For all serious users who keep their DAWs of the internet this is an harassment. This experience and all the iToys releases really make me wonder whether their software is still intended for high quality applications or if it's just trash ... 

I'm with you on IK letting us down etc... but I think the day of not having a DAW on the internet is pretty much over.  I'm a professional user and have always had my DAW on the internet.  Licensing and down loading is a nightmare without it and it gets more so every day.  With proper precautions you will be fine.   If my system was totally wiped out I'd be back up and running in 30 minutes from my disk image and data backups which are stored on drives that are only power on when needed. I really think that keeping a DAW off the internet is a lost battle.

I'm with VV on this..

I've always had my DAW on the internet...I have the option when I'm recording to TURN MY CONNECTION OFF...
so WHY wouldn't you?  With a good firewall and AV program there should be no worries...and just turn them 
OFF when tracking, etc....pretty straight forward IMHO...but that's just me.


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 11:56:09 (permalink)
I too don't use most of my IK products.

Out of the 2 that I do use, Ampeg and CSR, only one has made it to 64 bit.

I'm pretty much done with them too.
If Ampeg goes 64 bit I'll take it but that's as far as I go with them.

They should know that there's WAY too much competition out there to be playing this game.

I'm a Waves guy now. They're stable, up to date, high quality and not going anywhere anytime soon.
Not to mention they're not wasting resources on iCrap.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 12:03:26 (permalink)
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I too don't use most of my IK products.

Out of the 2 that I do use, Ampeg and CSR, only one has made it to 64 bit.

I'm pretty much done with them too.
If Ampeg goes 64 bit I'll take it but that's as far as I go with them.

They should know that there's WAY too much competition out there to be playing this game.

I'm a Waves guy now. They're stable, up to date, high quality and not going anywhere anytime soon.
Not to mention they're not wasting resources on iCrap.

Mike



They are both 64bit now. With Ampeg you have to use it Amplitube 3. All your Ampeg models will be there and CSR is 64bit as well.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 17:23:06 (permalink)
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Even if ST3 ever happens, I doubt I'll upgrade.



Same here.


As a sampler, it's useless, and even if it was better, there's no way it could beat the EXS-24/Logic combo for me. And if I weren't using Logic, I can still think of a bunch of options before I even consider it for sampling.


As a library player, there's virtually no 3rd party libraries available for it. Kontakt is still king of the hill. I seriously doubt that this is likely to change. Unless iPhones and iPads become the new studio standard - then maybe they'd have the edge...


So at best, I imagine it will be kind of like those UVI instruments - which have the benefit of being able to load in Mach 5, a reputedly great sampler which couldn't quite replace Kontakt.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 22:36:20 (permalink)
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chefmike8888


I too don't use most of my IK products.

Out of the 2 that I do use, Ampeg and CSR, only one has made it to 64 bit.

I'm pretty much done with them too.
If Ampeg goes 64 bit I'll take it but that's as far as I go with them.

They should know that there's WAY too much competition out there to be playing this game.

I'm a Waves guy now. They're stable, up to date, high quality and not going anywhere anytime soon.
Not to mention they're not wasting resources on iCrap.

Mike



They are both 64bit now. With Ampeg you have to use it Amplitube 3. All your Ampeg models will be there and CSR is 64bit as well.

Wow, thanks Guitarpima. 
I am now officially done with IK. Just going to burn up some credits I have in CS and I'm out.
One more complaint. WTH good are Jam Points?
Every time I tried to use them it said 'that purchase is not available for Jam Point use.'


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/10 23:54:09 (permalink)
iToo have done away with iKM (except ARC) ... iKM support is nonexistent, in my repeated experience.

+1 on Waves getting their 64bit and support up-to-date.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/11 00:54:31 (permalink)
I'm pretty much over it with iK too.
 
I bought all their SampleXXXs in a group buy, which was a good deal at the time.
 
Now, I have ARC, CSR, and TRacks Deluxe, and that's about all I ever use. Mostly ARC, and not much else :-)
 
Occasionally I might use something from one of the SampleXXX or Miroslav to layer in something, but since X2 I haven't even installed the 32bit version ... so at this stage it's no more IK SampleXXX for me.
 
I think the slowness of iK to come to the party, means they've pretty much missed it.
 
My attention is all over the vast array of superior products and sample libs, of which there's plenty.
I never actually liked using the iK SampleXXX stuff because of the UI, it's not kind to my ailing eyesight !.
 
 
I don't even bother checking the IK site anymore.
 
It's a shame when a company with such great opportunities seems to just blunder along and leave their customers to find better alternatives.
 
Never mind :-)
 
 
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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/11 00:56:49 (permalink)
In fairess to IK T-Racks and Amplitube continue to be developed and expanded and have all been updated recently including 64 bit. The custom shop I am not so keen on, I would just as soon go to a website and but I can live with it.

It makes you wonder where they will go with ST3. It needs to do something radical or be cheap to be a success look at the competition (for Windows)
 
  • Kontakt is king of the hill for sure and because of the third party content and the scripting.
  • Mach 5 is probably no 2 in terms of capabilities and they are getting an increasing number of developers on board. This is the one I see giving NI a run for their money.
  • Independence still has IMHO the best factory library but lacks new and third party content. Now its been acquired by Magix it will be interesting to see if they develop it further. They have already issued one minor update. It needs scripting and some third party content to move on.
  • Alchemy is more synth orientated but certainly can be considered as competition.
  • Dimension Pro occupies a similar space in the market to Sampletank, but it is more modern and new content is still being released. The lack of multi timbrel operation is not such a big deal these days as you can insert several instances.
  • TX16W provides a free / lowcost option for those who want a sampler to do sampling but are not to worried about content.
So where do Ik go? A fully featured sampler with scripting and go up against Kontakt and Mach 5, remain in the player territory or move into synth and sample manipulation like Alchemy?


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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/11 10:05:40 (permalink)
Agreed about IK support being non-existent. You can't even post anything on their user forum because of their Gestapo attitude toward user forums. Why even have one if you can't converse with other users? You have to give Cakewalk a LOT of credit where this is concerned. They let all the dissent with their product happen and let the user base here help them.

Case and point. A week or so ago I had an issue with ARC 2. It made a noise like the radio/tv being out of tune (white noise). I got the answer here withing an hour. If I had waited for IK support, I would STILL be waiting. It turns out either I did not authorize it or it un-authorized itself.

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Re:SampleTank 2013/03/11 11:37:32 (permalink)
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FreeFlyBertl


For all serious users who keep their DAWs of the internet this is an harassment. This experience and all the iToys releases really make me wonder whether their software is still intended for high quality applications or if it's just trash ... 

I'm with you on IK letting us down etc... but I think the day of not having a DAW on the internet is pretty much over.  I'm a professional user and have always had my DAW on the internet.  Licensing and down loading is a nightmare without it and it gets more so every day.  With proper precautions you will be fine.   If my system was totally wiped out I'd be back up and running in 30 minutes from my disk image and data backups which are stored on drives that are only power on when needed. I really think that keeping a DAW off the internet is a lost battle.
 
Hi vv,
 
I'm starting to realize that I won't be able to keep my DAW of the net much longer, but I keep holding on for a bit - personal paranoia I reckon ...
 
Anyway, may I ask what you are using as a backup system to be able to fix / rebuild in 30 minutes. I do frequent incremental backups using Acronis, but fear that it might be much longer in case I have to sort out something serious ...


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