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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/16 10:25:51 (permalink)
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Once I had added Classic Start Menu to Windows 8 (then 8.1), I found it to be an excellent OS - that is, reliable and largely unobtrusive.



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I just realized I took for granted that some folks never used Classic shell.  I completely forgot about metro because I never see it anymore - lol.  No wonder some folks hate Win8/8.1!

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/16 10:29:05 (permalink)
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Hello JonD ,
 As far as I'm concerned it's all good . There is accord between Us .  We are in Harmony .
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Hey Kenny,
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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/16 12:36:09 (permalink)
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ChristopherM
Once I had added Classic Start Menu to Windows 8 (then 8.1), I found it to be an excellent OS - that is, reliable and largely unobtrusive.



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I just realized I took for granted that some folks never used Classic shell.  I completely forgot about metro because I never see it anymore - lol.  No wonder some folks hate Win8/8.1!


Metro was the thing I hated most about Win 8.1 and I went to Classic shell also. What idiot came up with Metro? I was appalled that MS didn't care enough to give us the  old start button option despite an avalanche of complaints

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/16 17:12:36 (permalink)
I used Windows 10 Media Creation Tool to make a DVD of Win 10. I can easily either choose do do the update or a clean install and also use the DVD for recovery console, etc. Tenforums says I can do what I want, make a dual boot system of Win 10 and Win 8.1 and revert back to earlier Win 8.1 images if needed, do a clean install of Win 10 or anything I was asking here in this forum.
 
All of this without the 30 day deadline. The 30 day deadline seems to apply to the rollback feature you can choose in Control Panel. At this point I can see there's no risk. I can even years later boot to Win 8.1 to check settings, or run a project that was started years ago that is not working right in Win 10.
 
I'm not sure exactly when I'll make the plunge but I'll report back to this post and see if it goes as smoothly I it appears right now. I'd say upgrading to Win 10 is a no lose proposition, as long as a user protects themselves from unknown issues by saving an image file or dual booting.
 
http://www.tenforums.com/...uation.html#post536142

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/20 03:00:36 (permalink)
I installed Win 10 on my Win 7 internet computer. The dual boot works just fine between Win 7 and Win 10. I upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 and for now I see under Control Panel / System that Win 10 is not activated. I haven't as yet gotten any prompts to activate it. I assume after 30 days I'll get a notice about the activation I suppose.
 
Later I'll upgrade my DAW to Win 10

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/01/20 13:19:54 (permalink)
Strangely the 2nd time I checked my Windows activation a few minutes later it showed it was. Not sure why it said not activated.
 
So far this is only my internet computer not my DAW and Live Mail was a huge problem getting fixed in Win 10. Live Mail is a quirky program so maybe it's mostly at fault. The dual boot helped figuring out what to do to fix it. Also Firefox kept showing blank tabs, I had to reinstall it.

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/20 13:48:52 (permalink)
It's been a month and 3 days since I upgraded my internet computer Win 7 to Win 10 and I just dual booted to Win 7 and back again to Win 10, and it's fine.

 In the MS support area I see that they say after the 30 days if you want to even reinstall Win 7 from scratch all you need is the product code (or key?). And you can build an install DVD from the Media creation tool

I'm sure that's really nice for those that bought pre-packed computers with no Windows install DVD. This should be encouraging to anyone on the fence about upgrading - it's a no lose proposition and this free upgrade won't be available after July.
 
Very soon I'll upgrade my DAW Win 8.1 to Win 10.

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/21 08:12:41 (permalink)
Did not realize that you have the option to change your mind and revert back to windows 7 in addition to creating a disk to reinstall. I have a win 7 laptop with a bad hard drive. I have to look into this. Thanks for this post!
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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/21 08:14:54 (permalink)
I should at best back up the wim in the recovery partition if it is possible.
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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/21 14:36:52 (permalink)
Before upgrading to Win 10 definitely cover your butt, by at minimum doing an image file backup. I found out with Win 10 that Acronis was not compatible. Most are using the free Macrium Reflect. So many in the Win 10 forum are using it and I think it's great. Just as good as Acronis.  http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
Once you have an image of your Win 7 HD, go ahead and put a HD in and restore the image to that HD and then you’ll have a dual boot system by just choosing which HD to boot during boot up. At that point I’d say upgrade to Win 10, since you’ll be covered by the dual boot system, if things go haywire with Win 10

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/23 09:18:52 (permalink)
I wouldn't bother with a dual-boot (not necessary).
 
First, make sure you have a backup of the existing OS install (just to be 100% safe).
Once you've got that backup image file, I'd install Win10.
Win10 isn't a dramatic change from Win8.1.  
Think of it as an optimized version (Win8.5 if you will).
 
Microsoft is trying to get Win7 and Win8 users on a single platform (Windows 10).
GUI wise, Win10 is sort of a hybrid of Win7 and Win8.
Performance wise, I find Win10 to be "equal to slightly better" than Win8.

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/27 01:01:09 (permalink)
3 days ago I upgraded my Win 8.1 main DAW for my recording studio to Win 10. This time I didn't use the install DVD that I made. I just let Win Update do it within Win 8 and it was far easier and faster than when I used the DVD to upgrade Win 7 to Win 10. It only took a few hours. It first downloaded the files and then did the install.
 
Once it was done I made an image file right away. I so far found a few
things that needed some attention. I had to reinstall LoopBe1 a virtual midi
cable and Win 10 initialized the buffer and latency settings for my AVB audio interface.

There was a  1 second delay in latency when I hit a piano key and heard the sound. That was very easy to change back (only 2 parameters). All the other settings were left unchanged.
 
Later I noticed after I made 2 image files that they were quite a bit
larger than Win 8.1. I then found this folder on my C drive called Windows.old. It was huge – 17 gigs. I figured it was my old WIN 8.1 folder.

 I did a Google search and quickly found out what it was and how to delete it safely. Of course if I wanted to use the recovery feature and revert back to Win 8, I’d need that folder, but since I’ve made an image file with that folder, I could always revert back to that image  
 
But I’d prefer to revert to an old Win 8 image instead of using the
recovery feature anyway, so I was glad to delete it. After I did and did a
couple more tweaks and made  anew image file, it was the same size as my Win 8 image, which was good news for me, since I like to keep my C drive lean, so the image files are small.
 
I had a heck of a time getting my Vice Versa network backup to work with
Win 10 and my other 2 computers and found out that it was likely because of that huge Windows.old folder that had a huge number of small files that overloaded my backup program. Once I deleted it, the backup worked fine.
 
It turns out the Acronis 2015 does work fine with Win 10, yet with my Win 7
computer, Acronis 2011 was not compatible with Win 10 and I’m now using Macrium Reflect for image feels and it works great and it’s free.
 
So the bottom line is that the Win 10 upgrade for both computers has worked fine, easier than I expected and if I ever need to dual boot to the old OS to check something, it’ll be easy. I encourage all to upgrade to Win 10, after making an image file or having a 2nd HD with the old OS on it as a precaution.

Win 10 has been easy to adapt to, there’s not a whole lot of difference between it and Win 7 and 8 as far as understanding how to get around and do basic stuff. it feels good to have the latest OS for sure.

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Re: Should I do a free upgrade from Win 8 to Win 10? 2016/02/27 13:16:24 (permalink)
Eventually we will have to go with the "man" wants and upgrade.  With new hardware platforms you may not get the benefit using 7 or 8. So far I've had legacy devices working with 10.

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