I only have a problem with the idea that since they didn't tell us, it is false advertising. No communication("they didn't tell us that") is not false advertising. Where is the lie?

Don't feed the Kraken.

Dave000
nearly 800 views and not one word from a true Cakewalk "employee".
"Forums hosts" are just that. 
 
All I see is the "expected" group of forum participants. ;)

 
If you want to talk to Cakewalk, contact Cakewalk. If you want to talk to users, you're in the right place.
 

It's really simple if you can think for you're self!
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SonarPltUp here is the "UPGREAD" from X3 ad to Sonar plat.
It SAYS "upgrade" for Plat. and GET:

• Record unlimited audio and MIDI tracks
• Mix with as many effects, sends and busses as you need
• Skylight Interface enhancements including multi-touch support with Windows 8
• Comp multiple takes together instantly for the ultimate performance
• Full support for VST3 synths and effects
• Improved video support including YouTube export
• Save your projects to the cloud with Gobbler integration
• DSD support gives you better-than-CD-quality audio
• Edit with 57 total FX including the Studio Mixing and Engineering Suites.
• Easy collaboration and distributing via SoundCloud, Facebook, and Twitter
• Comes with 21 instruments including the Studio Instruments suite
• Addictive Drums 2 Solo bundle for a great-sounding foundation to your tunes
• Create great mixes with ProChannel Console Strip modules
• Tighten up vocals with the powerful VocalSync alignment tool
• Includes 19 Nomad Factory Blue Tubes FX for mix perfection
• Always have the most current version with your SONAR membership

 It truly is a shame that we live in an age where people can't tell when they are being deceived and don't have the intelligence to see what right in front of them and their argument is pure illusion... maybe all you kids on here should ask mommy or daddy how to interpret the truth of the upgrade ad...

Dave000
It truly is a shame that we live in an age where people can't tell when they are being deceived and don't have the intelligence to see what right in front of them and their argument is pure illusion... maybe all you kids on here should ask mommy or daddy how to interpret the truth of the upgrade ad...

Apparently you missed the heading immediately above the list you quoted. The heading says:
 
Cakewalk SONAR Platinum Features:
 
Every one of the features you listed above is indeed in SONAR Platinum. There is absolutely nothing untruthful about that statement.
 
Furthermore, the catalog description does not say "Upgrade for Plat and Get:" For the record, here are the references to upgrading:
 
NOTE: This is an opportunity for registered users of Cakewalk products to upgrade to a full version of Cakewalk SONAR Platinum from SONAR X3 Producer. To qualify for this reduced-price upgrade, you must be able to provide proof of eligibility. For more information, please call your Sweetwater Sales Engineer.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I think that's pretty clear.

Craig you are basing your argument in "implication" and it is "not implied" anyplace in the ad that you don't get 57 FX...
 
By the nature of this ad you are buying an "upgrade", so anything listed as part of the title "upgrade from X3 to plat" with a list of items you get with plat "denotes" any previous agreement regarding X3 and all items associated with X3. there for if it's in the ad they have to give it to you... including new licenses.
 
I have never seen CW say "once you upgrade" you cant use older versions as well. Most likely it was that way to keep customers to work across versions and for me... working with different versions to work around bugs and to have access to old CW plugins that I paid for that don't work in plat.
 
I'm not sorry that I see things as they truly are.... all CW has to do is fix the ad and make it clear....
 
The problem that I had has been fixed... but I'm going to push this on principle...
 
lol
 
 

mettelus

Dave000
I bought X3 Pro and it cam with So here I go again and it came with a copy of Melodyne Essential. I got a serial number.
Now I buy Sonar Plat and that comes with a copy of Melodyne Essential. so why am I not given a another serial number?
 
I recently bought two cars from the same dealer but I only received one steering wheel... oh never mind! Get my point!

Perhaps the OP should read the OP and realize he undermined himself as intelligent out the chute.

As someone who has been "downtown" (DC) often, I have been a bit entertained with your posts and can only offer "Good luck with that" to you.

I'm a song writer.. I write word and I talk off kilter on purpose... rambling randomly in and out of alternative speech patterns...
I drive my family nuts, but its just an obscure way of communicating.
there is no point to any of this... and I'm triple-tasking...
 
I have nothing agent anyone here, its just debate.. in other words "I really don't care".. ;)
I just do it....
 
   

People still seem to be struggling with the correct procedure here, I shall re-post:
 
1. Hover over username
2. Click 'Block Member'
3. Tea
 
Remember:
 

 

Types of False Advertising

Today's regulations define three main acts that constitute false advertising: failure to disclose, flawed and insignificant research, and product disparagement. The majority of these regulations are outlined in the Lanham Act of 1946 (15 U.S.C.A. § 1051 et seq), which contains the statutes that govern trademark law in the United States.
Failure to Disclose It is considered false advertising under the Lanham Act if a representation is "untrue as a result of the failure to disclose a material fact." Therefore, false advertising can come from both misstatements and partially correct statements that are misleading because they do not disclose something the consumer should know. The Trademark Law Revision Act of 1988, which added several amendments to the Lanham Act, left creation of the line between sufficient and insufficient disclosure to the discretion of the courts.
 
What is the ad? "an upgrade" What's in the upgrade? Everything listed in the ad.... 
Was it "disclosed" that you don't get anything in the ad? No! 

Dave000

Types of False Advertising

Today's regulations define three main acts that constitute false advertising: failure to disclose, flawed and insignificant research, and product disparagement. The majority of these regulations are outlined in the Lanham Act of 1946 (15 U.S.C.A. § 1051 et seq), which contains the statutes that govern trademark law in the United States.
Failure to Disclose It is considered false advertising under the Lanham Act if a representation is "untrue as a result of the failure to disclose a material fact." Therefore, false advertising can come from both misstatements and partially correct statements that are misleading because they do not disclose something the consumer should know. The Trademark Law Revision Act of 1988, which added several amendments to the Lanham Act, left creation of the line between sufficient and insufficient disclosure to the discretion of the courts.
 
What is the ad? "an upgrade" What's in the upgrade? Everything listed in the ad.... 
Was it "disclosed" that you don't get anything in the ad? No! 

Anyway the poster in #47 may have a point..
TRADEMARK law 
 
You'd probably do much better by getting legal advice than copy/paste from the internet . Might cost a little more than the Platinum fee unfortunately...

Dave, have you tried golf?

BRainbow
Dave, have you tried golf?

He means golf™, not to be confused with mini-golf™, crazy-golf™, frisbee golf™ or any other golf™ that may be implicated.
 
The Doktor™
 

There is a lot more at play with this really, but to sum up the crux of it => if you purchased an upgrade, you have Melodyne Essential (not were given "another" but that you have it).
 
For people who upgraded from, say X1 producer, they were "made whole" (in fact ALL upgraders are made whole to that list). The licensing behind the scenes was mentioned earlier. There is no verbiage anywhere that says "get another" so any "false advertising" point is moot... you have everything on that list (or should call technical support).
 
I guess I should look into similar against the car companies that never delivered the half-naked babe draped across the hood... I *assumed* I got her too!!!

I think Dave should get on with it and file a lawsuit. You know, show us how serious he really is.