Unknowen
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So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
I bought X3 Pro and it cam with So here I go again and it came with a copy of Melodyne Essential. I got a serial number.
Now I buy Sonar Plat and that comes with a copy of Melodyne Essential. so why am I not given a another serial number?
I recently bought two cars from the same dealer but I only received one steering wheel... oh never mind! Get my point!
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 18:41:13
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Well if you paid full price for a brand new copy of Sonar instead of just an upgrade you would have gotten another s/n for everything.
So what were you going to do? Sell the Melodyne license to cover your upgrade costs?
Yeah, that seems fair.
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Unknowen
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 18:53:07
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I paid for Sonar Plat as advertised! Truth is Truth there is NO upgrade disclaimer.
I got it with X3 pro... and that was an upgrade...
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 18:59:54
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It was new addition at that point and you still have it.
So what exactly was your plan with that extra s/n?
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 19:01:14
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Starting with X3 Studio/Producer, Cakewalk provides one Melodyne license for each SONAR license. Should you elect to purchase another SONAR license, you will receive another Melodyne license. This was discussed when Profession/Platinum was released. If you feel cheated take it up with Cakewalk Customer Service here is how to contact them http://forum.cakewalk.com...directly-m2090582.aspx
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 19:09:29
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Thanks Scook, But I was not in on that discussion. ;) and I see NO disclaimer.
Peace!
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 19:19:15
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 19:50:58
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The reason why you pay less for an upgrade is you are paying only for new features introduced since the previous version. This is the way the music software business has worked for at least 30 years. With X3, Melodyne was a new feature so the upgrade cost paid for a Melodyne license.
With Platinum, Melodyne is no longer a new feature but now part of the program. Similarly to X3, the upgrade cost for Platinum paid for the new features (VocalSync, new Control Bar, MIDI Paintbrush, AD 2, Mix Recall, etc.) as well as more new features and bug fixes for another year.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 20:02:47
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You're a smart guy Craig so lets see what the venders say about NOT telling people that in there ads "if they have it they don't get it". No matter what Cakewalk "believes" is right, The venders are false advertising so lets see what happens Monday with the venders.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 20:29:57
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Wow I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would get angry that they didn't receive a SECOND, IDENTICAL license for the same piece of software after an upgrade which DIDN'T include an upgraded version of that software. Do you understand what an upgrade is? Prediction: you'll get absolutely nowhere with this complaint, either with Cakewalk or other forum users.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 20:35:38
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sharke
Wow I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would get angry that they didn't receive a SECOND, IDENTICAL license for the same piece of software after an upgrade which DIDN'T include an upgraded version of that software. Do you understand what an upgrade is? Prediction: you'll get absolutely nowhere with this complaint, either with Cakewalk or other forum users.
Because I paid for it... and who said I'm mad.... lol ;) peace!
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 20:48:37
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2015/05/10 10:51:51
Here's my confident prediction: this thread is going nowhere useful or worthwhile.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 21:01:28
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Dave000
Because I paid for it...
Actually no, you paid for the new features in Platinum. You bought Melodyne when it was a new feature in X3. I think that's pretty clear but if not, see what Cakewalk says.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 22:20:35
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Anderton
The reason why you pay less for an upgrade is you are paying only for new features introduced since the previous version. This is the way the music software business has worked for at least 30 years. With X3, Melodyne was a new feature so the upgrade cost paid for a Melodyne license.
With Platinum, Melodyne is no longer a new feature but now part of the program. Similarly to X3, the upgrade cost for Platinum paid for the new features (VocalSync, new Control Bar, MIDI Paintbrush, AD 2, Mix Recall, etc.) as well as more new features and bug fixes for another year.
Ah that must be why I own 60 Dim Pro and Rapture serial numbers/licenses  j/k.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/08 23:31:57
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/05/11 19:18:24
Doktor Avalanche
Ah that must be why I own 60 Dim Pro and Rapture serial numbers/licenses
j/k.
Not third party.  Cakewalk has to pay Celemony for every Melodyne license. So it doesn't make sense to raise the price of upgrades by building in the cost of another license fee for something someone already has.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 01:06:18
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Doktor Avalanche
Ah that must be why I own 60 Dim Pro and Rapture serial numbers/licenses
j/k.
Not third party. Cakewalk has to pay Celemony for every Melodyne license. So it doesn't make sense to raise the price of upgrades by building in the cost of another license fee for something someone already has.
I see, inadvertently trolling for Celemony. To upgrade to full Melodyne, you use the Sonar license. You can end up buying 2 full Melodyne to use on 1 Sonar.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 03:35:21
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Its all good if that's how cakewalk "wants" to do things, and I do get that Craig, but the problem is that they never told anyone that, so it is false advertising. It's plan and simple. I went to the upgrade from x3 pro to Plat ad on Sweetwater page and it says nothing about not getting anything that is offered in the full version.
All the comments for the cakewalk point of view with NO proof.
I gave proof of my view. you can't tell people they are getting something and not give it to them!
that's call lying...
And please don't think this is all about Cakewalk... I've been talking with my local senator about how software corporations are creating undo stress and mental health issues with their lake of quality control and responsibility to put out problem free software. You think it's bad now with car recall? Just wait.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 04:07:21
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Do I get it right that OP wants usual disclaimer coming with upgrade of some famous software packets: "After successful installation of upgrade you should uninstall previous version completely, including all third party editions, within 7 days and physically destroy all copies of installation media". So, he can use "new" Melodyne license (while the old one is immediately blocked).
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 04:22:34
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The pricetag on X3 Producer - > Platinum upgrade must itself been adjusted to that you already have a Melodyne license - so price is lower.
If buying upgrade from any Sonar not including Melodyne license - pricetag is higher and you also get a license.
Did they standardize boxes too hard and sent disk for Melodyne - so box can be used for many upgrade alternatives, or?
So getting the disk one think it must go with a license on account.
Can't see that Cake did anything abnormal here.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 06:53:22
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/05/09 12:30:26
How many licences do you have for Sonar is the real question.
One is the answer.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 09:23:42
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This is a matter of simple common sense, and it's hard to persuade that into a person who lacks it.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 09:29:29
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If the OP wanted to sell the extra Melodyne Essential license, I believe that's prohibited by the Cakewalk EULA.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 11:48:35
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I've been talking with my local senator about how software corporations are creating undo stress and mental health issues with their lake of quality control and responsibility to put out problem free software. You think it's bad now with car recall? Just wait.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/09 12:27:22
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John T
This is a matter of simple common sense, and it's hard to persuade that into a person who lacks it.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/10 09:32:21
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/11 14:39:12
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Can't fix stupid .....
Yeah, I know just what you mean. ;) lol BTW, Sweetwater agrees with me.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/11 15:00:56
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Well, it's not like you now get two multidocks, or "extra" anything with the upgrade. I agree with earlier posts, sounds like you have some designs on what to do with that extra serial.
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/11 15:09:11
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You mean somebody AT Sweetwater agreed with you... probably to get you off the phone. As a licensed distributor (and a reputable one) they would understand how software upgrades work and would have knowledge of individual releases such as this one. If not, and they are advertising otherwise, then THEY are the negligent party here. Not Cakewalk.
Notice how nobody here is under the same illusions?
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Unknowen
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/11 15:28:13
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Beepster
You mean somebody AT Sweetwater agreed with you... probably to get you off the phone. As a licensed distributor (and a reputable one) they would understand how software upgrades work and would have knowledge of individual releases such as this one. If not, and they are advertising otherwise, then THEY are the negligent party here. Not Cakewalk.
Notice how nobody here is under the same illusions?
nearly 800 views and not one word from a true Cakewalk "employee". "Forums hosts" are just that. All I see is the "expected" group of forum participants. ;)
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Re: So here I go again! getting what I paid for AS advertised!
2015/05/11 15:37:30
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/05/11 19:19:34
This is a user based forum and the Cakewalk employee's don't always visit here. I would imagine they're busy working on some new feature for us.
Have you contacted Cakewalk directly (per Scook's post)?
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