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2010/12/30 11:04:25 (permalink)

Sonar Control via iPad

Just came across this:
 
http://saitarasoftware.com/Site/AC-7_Core.html
 
Anyone have any experience with this?  For $7.99, hard to go wrong.  Hooking it up to X1A now...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 11:13:45 (permalink)
    OMG ... more things in the fragile chain and that have to be kept updated (I mean the s/w devs and Cake) ...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 11:29:18 (permalink)
    Awesome! Let us know how it works;)

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 11:35:31 (permalink)
    I use it. It works perfectly

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:05:27 (permalink)
    Hmmm.. My DAW is connected to the wireless router, which connects to the iPad.  I don't see the iPad in the client directory in rtpMIDI.  Gunnar, do you have a similar setup and, if so, how did you get it to appear?

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:10:23 (permalink)
    How is it connected to your DAW? WiFi to a router then network cable to your DAW? No dropout issues?

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:24:58 (permalink)
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    How is it connected to your DAW? WiFi to a router then network cable to your DAW? No dropout issues?

    WiFi in a DAW is notorious for dropouts.  While that gadget certainly "looks cool", I'd be quite skeptical that it can keep things smooth running in a DAW.
     
    I would love to be proven wrong, though.
     
    (And I don't mean "light" use of the DAW).
     
     

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:31:40 (permalink)
    that's why I asked about the WiFi but if its WiFi to the router and then just a cat 5 into the DAW it may not be so bad.

    My hardwired network connection never interferes with my DAW. I've accidently forgotten to disable it at times and didn't realize until later. I mean folks use multi PO setups to farm out DSP processing and that works OK.

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:35:32 (permalink)
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    that's why I asked about the WiFi but if its WiFi to the router and then just a cat 5 into the DAW it may not be so bad.

    My hardwired network connection never interferes with my DAW. I've accidently forgotten to disable it at times and didn't realize until later. I mean folks use multi PO setups to farm out DSP processing and that works OK.

    Hardwired setups don't do status checks the same way as WiFi.  It's just hard for me to imagine WiFi not being a problem to some degree, and even if it's only minor, that would stop me from using such a device.
     
     

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:37:28 (permalink)
    But for $7.99, it's certainly worth a look, me thinks.  I've spilled more than that at Happy Hour.  Now, if I can just get the software to see my iPad...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 12:43:27 (permalink)
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    But for $7.99, it's certainly worth a look, me thinks.  I've spilled more than that at Happy Hour.  Now, if I can just get the software to see my iPad...

    Heh, well, first I'd have to get an iPAD, which I'm not rushing out to do.  So far it's not tuggin' at me ;)
     
     

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 13:51:03 (permalink)
    Got it working.  Going to stress test it a bit over the next few days, but I haven't seen anything surprising yet.  Everything seems, at first glance, to work as advertised.  Pretty amazing.  And nope, I have no business relationship with them.
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 13:54:20 (permalink)
    What I want to know is how I can rip DVDs to my iPad. Anybody seen any links?


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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 14:29:59 (permalink)
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    What I want to know is how I can rip DVDs to my iPad. Anybody seen any links?

    No, Dave - but I have a friend who ripped his iPAD already ;)



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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 14:44:51 (permalink)
    your pc has to install a server client plus I think something like LoopBe as a midi bridge . Its discussed on GS, KVR, etc and used with other daws

    SUPPOSEDLY it has acceptable latency ...

    im glad you could get ti to work I never could

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 15:06:15 (permalink)
    I think the secret was the installation of a Port Forward in my router, as referenced in the rtpMIDI developer's notes (which I had to google to find).  No other servers needed.  I'm finding the functionality amazing, considering the price.  It's wrapped around a Mackie interface, and has dedicated Sonar buttons (it says, though I haven't checked them all out yet).  More or less full control of 8 tracks, plus eight more if you have a second iPad.  Or via bank switching, of course.  Kewl...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 15:15:28 (permalink)
    I just followed the exact steps on this side: http://saitarasoftware.com/Site/AC-7_Core_setup.html
    On Windows:



        Install the rtpMIDI driver. (downloaded from here : rtpMIDI_1_0_6_218_saitara.zip)

        You will be directed to install Bonjour for Windows if you don’t already have it.

        Run the rtpMIDI app.



        Add a new session by clicking the plus sign, rename it and activate it by clicking the checkbox.

        Make sure you set the option "who may connect to me" to either "anyone" or "only computers in my

        directory".

        Now start the AC-7 Core app on the iPad, and make sure it's in the mode you want to use.

        Your iPad's name will now appear in the Directory.

        Click your iPad's name then click the connect button.

        Your iPad's name will now appear in the Participants section.

        You can now close the rtpMIDI window.

        That's it. You're connected.

    My Daw is contected with wire to a router (the router is connected to the "Fiber box" and this box also got the WiFi.
     

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 15:18:59 (permalink)
    Thanks, Gunnar.  I did that initially, and didn't see my iPad in the Directory.  After installing a port forward (software option) in the router, my iPad finally showed up.  Not sure if it was coincidence, the result of a deliberate act, or blind luck.  But, on the other hand, I can say that about many of my successes...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 15:25:44 (permalink)
    I'd like to see a Windows Phone 7 app to control the Sonar transport.
    Thinking about making one if there's a demand for it.
    Would be useful for vocal sessions since WP7 already has auto-scrolling lyric support.
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 15:32:55 (permalink)
    I want android app like this for my G2 google phone :)

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 16:43:13 (permalink)
    Heck, I want SONAR X1c on my Droid X.

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 19:30:56 (permalink)
    That's cool. For the price of a happy meal too!

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/30 20:05:02 (permalink)
    I use the iPod app. Works great, and it's very handy when you are not right in front of the PC.
    Useful for guerilla recording too.

    The iPad app also looks great, but IMHO is not in the same league as an MCU or similar for a main DAW controller. Still for the price is a great bang for the buck (if you already have the iPad ;) )
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/31 11:27:37 (permalink)
    Understand.  I started looking for a replacement for my Tranzport, since they are out of production (though mine is still running strong).  My recording room is on a different floor from the control room, so I mainly need something to control the Transport in Sonar, when I don't have my engineer (aka fiance) present.  Though, as mentioned in an earlier post, I've customized my Tranzport interface quite a bit (metronome control on the fly, track layer control, multiple track cloning and archiving, for example).  Without the Tranzport, I'd have no easy options.  So, the iPad Ap fills that gap.  Not in the same league as an MCU, but a different mission requirement.  And for less than a glass of wine at a good restaurant...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2010/12/31 14:20:58 (permalink)
    And you wonder why Frontier dropped the Tranzport line.  Seems to me that all the small controllers may be a thing of the past if this application works.

    I was wondering if an app with all of your hot keys mapped to buttons would work?

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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2011/01/01 16:46:00 (permalink)
    Yeah, sounds entirely feasible.  I've noted the App I mentioned above has some spare buttons which I suspect are programmable (need to find time to play with this).  And if one is willing to develop the application and interface, nearly anything is possible.  The irony here is that it takes a Mac to do that...
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2011/01/01 19:06:30 (permalink)
    pollux


    I use the iPod app. Works great, and it's very handy when you are not right in front of the PC.
    Useful for guerilla recording too.


    Where did you get the Ipod app?
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2011/01/25 09:59:09 (permalink)
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    pollux


    I use the iPod app. Works great, and it's very handy when you are not right in front of the PC.
    Useful for guerilla recording too.


    Where did you get the Ipod app?
    Thanks

    on iTunes :)
    here's the link to their site:
    http://saitarasoftware.com/Site/AC-7_Core_Family.html
     
    it seems they updated the product line, and new products only work with IOS > 4.2.. so no Ipod.
     
    the "old" products are AC-7 Pro and AC-7 DAW. Don't know if they are still available on iTunes tho.
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2011/01/25 10:05:00 (permalink)
    bitflper: google macthe ripper foripad
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    Re:Sonar Control via iPad 2011/01/25 10:49:49 (permalink)
    Definitely looks impressive - but keep us posted to its functionality (problem free?)

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