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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 17:09:06 (permalink)
    Find out tomorrow how much it will cost. But only one 100mm fader?

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 17:11:47 (permalink)
    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 17:22:07 (permalink)
    Looks like they "unbundled" the VS-700 console too.

    http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse09/article/Cakewalk/Cakewalk-announces-VS-700C-V-Studio-Console-now-available-for-SONAR-8-Producer
    post edited by PC1211 - 2009/03/31 17:28:21
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 17:23:51 (permalink)
    Yep they have and to quote: In response to many requests from the SONAR community the VS-700C control surface from that system is now available separately.
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 18:33:31 (permalink)

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    Yep they have and to quote: In response to many requests from the SONAR community the VS-700C control surface from that system is now available separately.


    I bet it'll still cost more than your typical controller (Mackie etc.) plus any of the really good interfaces on the market now (which, of course, is light-years ahead of anything available from Roland/Edirol/Cakewalk...)

    I'm so not holding my breath...
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 18:33:58 (permalink)
    I think just maybe they're also going to debut a redesigned web site and forum.
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 18:36:57 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1

    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though


    Basically an Alphatrack + an M-Audio Fast Track Pro at THREE TIMES the combined price...
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 18:59:40 (permalink)

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    Yep they have and to quote: In response to many requests from the SONAR community the VS-700C control surface from that system is now available separately.


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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 19:06:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Marah

    I think just maybe they're also going to debut a redesigned web site and forum.


    Marah,

    If they do, will you please change your Avatar?
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 19:12:45 (permalink)
    Sounds interesting indeed ! Can't wait for more information and pricing.

    Cakewalk...a company that listens to it's customers !

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 19:18:51 (permalink)

    Sonar V-Studio 100 (VS-100) from Cakewalk

    Sonar VS-100 News from Cakewalk: The VS100 is the second product in the Cakewalk / Roland / Edirol V-Studio line – an all-in-one recorder, mixer, interface and DAW controller.

    SONAR V-Studio 100 provides a compact yet feature-rich music production studio that enables musicians to create, record, produce, and perform music – with or without a computer.

    SONAR V-Studio 100 integrates a 24-bit/96kHz high-speed USB 2.0 audio interface, DAW controller, digital mixer, SD recorder, and VS Production Pack – a powerful suite of high quality instruments and effects for Mac and PC. For PC customers just getting started with digital recording, SONAR V-Studio 100 includes the SONAR VS digital audio workstation.
    SONAR V-Studio 100 Includes:

    High speed USB 2.0 interface, featuring:

    * 8 in + mix / 6 out at 24-bit/96kHz quality
    * 2 mic preamps w/phantom power, hi-z guitar input; MIDI I/O
    * ASIO, WDM, WASAPI, Core Audio support
    * Compatible with DAWs such as SONAR, Logic, Live, Cubase, and Digital Performer

    Universal DAW controller:

    Supports all popular digital recording software for Mac and PC via Mackie control protocol, including Logic, Live, Cubase, and Digital Performer. Additionally, V-Studio 100 provides extended control capabilities over SONAR through the implementation of Cakewalk’s Active Controller Technology (ACT). The controller features:

    * 100mm motorized, touch-sensitive fader
    * 5 rotary encoders, 11 buttons and transport control
    * Use with any DAW through Mackie Control protocol
    * Advanced control of SONAR through Active Controller Technology

    Personal Digital Mixer:

    SONAR V-Studio 100 is an ideal digital mixer for small groups, solo performers, DJs, MCs, and any electronic musician who needs to mix multiple sound sources. All users can enhance their live sound with the pro-quality onboard effects that offer easy routing and accessibility.

    * Ideal for mixing small bands, solo musicians, DJs, home studios
    * 8 inputs, 6 outputs (plus headphones)
    * 4 types of reverb and 6 channels of EQ and compression

    Mobile SD Recorder Live Player:

    Capture that creative moment whenever inspiration strikes! SONAR V-Studio 100 provides high quality digital recording that can be used without being connected to a computer. Record directly to SD-card to capture song ideas, rehearsals or live performances. Create backing tracks on your DAW of choice and transfer them to SD card for playback during live performance – even while recording. Likewise, recorded performances can be easily transferred from the VS-100’s SD-card for additional editing.

    * Record away from your computer
    * 2-channel wave recording and playback
    * Capture rehearsals and live performances
    * Play and record along to backing tracks
    * Built-in metronome
    * Insert markers during recording and playback
    * Loop a region for practicing parts or jamming
    * Easily transfer audio to and from any computer via USB

    VS-100 Production Pack (Win/Mac)

    SONAR V-Studio 100 comes with a suite of software instruments and effects, including:

    * VX-64 Vocal Strip – a seven-stage processor for shaping and sculpting incredible sounding vocal tracks. Each of the VX-64’s stages have been fine-tuned to be vocal-specific, taking the effort out of dialing in an entire chain of vocal processors. VX-64 features a new Cakewalk technology that employs phase-coherent, multi-band saturation to avoid unwanted distortion. It also has unique filtering to avoid harsh artifacts at extreme high and low frequencies as well as an auto-leveling circuit that prevents the tube saturation from sounding too harsh when high gain transients are processed. VX-64 also employs a new de-essing algorithm designed with Cakewalk’s LP64 linear phase effect filtering technology to remove sibilance without creating any frequency smearing.
    * Dimension LE — a streamlined version of the acclaimed Dimension Pro instrument from Cakewalk. Dimension LE features over 400 presets, ranging from bass, organ, and electric piano samples to cutting-edge synth sounds, rhythmic grooves, and even a special edition of Garritan Pocket Orchestra
    * Rapture LE — a special version of the award winning Rapture wavetable synthesizer. It includes over 200 presets and hundreds of oscillator shapes. Rapture LE is perfect for performing the modern synthesized sounds that are igniting today's pop, dance, and electronic music.
    * Cakewalk Studio Instruments — a collection of four virtual instruments that provide a fast and easy way to create backing tracks using a photo-realistic, interactive user interface. Instruments include a Drum Kit, Bass Guitar, Electric Piano and a String Section.
    * SONAR VS digital recording software (PC only) — a special entry-level DAW based on the powerful SONAR 8 audio engine but offering a streamlined user interface.

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 19:20:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bapu


    ORIGINAL: Marah

    I think just maybe they're also going to debut a redesigned web site and forum.


    Marah,

    If they do, will you please change your Avatar?



    Was due for a change, anyway. :)
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 21:26:55 (permalink)
    VX-64 Vocal Strip !!!! mmmmmhhh hope it will be in the next S8 update (John ?! )

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 23:40:49 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: PaPi


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    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though


    Basically an Alphatrack + an M-Audio Fast Track Pro at THREE TIMES the combined price...


    That's just simply not true. Love how people grossly oversimplify from an apparent half-reading.

    The VS-100 has a solid state SD recorder, a stand-alone digital mixer with effects, an ACT control section, full software suite, etc. How is that like an Alphatrack and a Fast Track Pro (at 3x the price)?
    post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2009/03/31 23:49:31

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 23:54:08 (permalink)
    so how much then?

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 23:54:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]

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    ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1

    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though


    Basically an Alphatrack + an M-Audio Fast Track Pro at THREE TIMES the combined price...


    That's just simply not true. Love how people grossly oversimplify from an apparent half-reading.

    The VS-100 has a solid state SD recorder, a stand-alone digital mixer with effects, an ACT control section, full software suite, etc. How is that like an Alphatrack and a Fast Track Pro (at 3x the price)?


    Even a half-reading makes it clear that this is a cool piece of gear and that certain posters have a perpetual chip on their shoulder.
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/03/31 23:57:21 (permalink)
    You know, I saw what I believe was the latest "People" magazine today in the lobby where I was...er...waiting and it had several full page ads of a new movie called "Aliens vs. Monsters" or somesuch. It also contained a tear out (which someone had, thankfully, already...torn out) 3D glasses with which to view said advertisements. I put the little cardboard glasses on and then looked at the magazine. I could not for the life of me see any meaningful difference in the ad with or without the "magic glasses". From the initial reactions to this new piece of hardware perhaps Cake would do well to issue something similar in the way of "viewing utensils". Although, really, I don't think they would improve the view anymore than those things in the People magazine.

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 00:18:52 (permalink)
    You know, I saw what I believe was the latest "People" magazine today in the lobby where I was...er...waiting and it had several full page ads of a new movie called "Aliens vs. Monsters" or somesuch. It also contained a tear out (which someone had, thankfully, already...torn out) 3D glasses with which to view said advertisements. I put the little cardboard glasses on and then looked at the magazine. I could not for the life of me see any meaningful difference in the ad with or without the "magic glasses". From the initial reactions to this new piece of hardware perhaps Cake would do well to issue something similar in the way of "viewing utensils". Although, really, I don't think they would improve the view anymore than those things in the People magazine.

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 00:25:14 (permalink)
    tough crowd here. The band hasn't even turned their amps on yet, and the tomatoes are already flyin'

    You guys are just lucky Cake can "pin ya down" and make ya'll say "uncle"

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:28:57 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]

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    ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1

    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though


    Basically an Alphatrack + an M-Audio Fast Track Pro at THREE TIMES the combined price...


    That's just simply not true. Love how people grossly oversimplify from an apparent half-reading.

    The VS-100 has a solid state SD recorder, a stand-alone digital mixer with effects, an ACT control section, full software suite, etc. How is that like an Alphatrack and a Fast Track Pro (at 3x the price)?


    The Alphatrack has pretty much the same controls as the VS-100. The FTPro is a USB 2.0 interface with the same ins and outs and yes, it comes with Live LE, presumably the VS-100 will come with a lite version of Sonar (or else the price would be much higher.) Oh yeah, the "SD recorder". I'm sorry, I'm still laughing. Pretty much every new desktop computer comes with an SD slot. There's your "SD recorder"...
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:40:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: PC1211

    Even a half-reading makes it clear that this is a cool piece of gear and that certain posters have a perpetual chip on their shoulder.



    This is the problem with many people on the internet, but especially the younger ones: anyone who expresses a different opinion and/or dares to be critical of something MUST be either mentally insane or suffer from some kind of anger problem...
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:49:43 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: PaPi


    ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]

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    ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1

    First costing: UK £599 inc.VAT - not concrete though


    Basically an Alphatrack + an M-Audio Fast Track Pro at THREE TIMES the combined price...


    That's just simply not true. Love how people grossly oversimplify from an apparent half-reading.

    The VS-100 has a solid state SD recorder, a stand-alone digital mixer with effects, an ACT control section, full software suite, etc. How is that like an Alphatrack and a Fast Track Pro (at 3x the price)?


    The Alphatrack has pretty much the same controls as the VS-100. The FTPro is a USB 2.0 interface with the same ins and outs and yes, it comes with Live LE, presumably the VS-100 will come with a lite version of Sonar (or else the price would be much higher.) Oh yeah, the "SD recorder". I'm sorry, I'm still laughing. Pretty much every new desktop computer comes with an SD slot. There's your "SD recorder"...


    Laugh all you want but I'm sorry - I still contend rather confidently that you are missing some important points. An SD slot in a computer in no way resembles the recorder in the VS-100. First of all it doesn't need a computer to work (pretty important difference, no?), and allows you to record all inputs of the stand-alone mixer (which you neglected to mention in your rebut) direct to the SD card. You can also drop markers live to the SD card which transfer as markers in the SONAR VS software (for marking live performances or out of studio recordings). What card reader in a PC does anything like this? Also the standalone mixer has DSP based EQ, Compression and reverb that can be used live...where is this in the "AlphaFast Track" comparison?

    (Amongst other points) Then there is the included software....have you used the VX-64? I can guarantee you Live LE doesn't come with anything remotely close to this new vocal strip. I wouldn't' expect you to know this as you haven't used it, but that's the whole point - perhaps learn a little more about the product before judging so quickly and so harshly (although I recognize it is your right to do so if you wish).

    I'm not trying to sell you on it...it seems you are predisposed not to like it and that's totally fine. No product is for everyone and believe me I get that. But don't discount it out of hand based on some rather apparent knee-jerk misconceptions.

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:50:27 (permalink)
    This is the problem with many people on the internet, but especially the younger ones: anyone who expresses a different opinion and/or dares to be critical of something MUST be either mentally insane or suffer from some kind of anger problem...


    And how can you even express an intelligent opinion without having all the facts! I suggest you might be suffering from some delusional problem! SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:57:13 (permalink)
    Pix or it didn't happen. What's it look like?


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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 01:58:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ...wicked

    Pix or it didn't happen. What's it look like?




    I believe this type of detailed info is coming later on today. Stay tuned.

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 02:06:16 (permalink)

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    I'm not trying to sell you on it...it seems you are predisposed not to like it and that's totally fine. No product is for everyone and believe me I get that. But don't discount it out of hand based on some rather apparent knee-jerk misconceptions.


    You work for Cakewalk. Your opinion is anything but unbiased.
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 02:12:45 (permalink)
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    I'm not trying to sell you on it...it seems you are predisposed not to like it and that's totally fine. No product is for everyone and believe me I get that. But don't discount it out of hand based on some rather apparent knee-jerk misconceptions.


    You work for Cakewalk. Your opinion is anything but unbiased.


    Well I feel that's a low blow of an argument, but so be it. Why not have a discussion based purely on the facts and points at hand? It seems instead you have now side-stepped the initial contention and subsequent debate and have resorted to questioning the integrity of my points based on my employment. I guess I can accept that and it's entirely your prerogative. Having said that, I stand by my "opinions" (actually merely statements of fact in this case) regardless of who pays my salary.
    post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2009/04/01 02:19:14

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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 02:21:52 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]
    Well I feel that's a low blow of an argument


    Yes, of course, you have to put the negative connotation on me.
    Some people call it a CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
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    RE: Sonar VS-100 2009/04/01 02:22:48 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: PaPi

    ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]
    Well I feel that's a low blow of an argument


    Yes, of course, you have to put the negative connotation on me.
    Some people call it a CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

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