mike_mccue
http://uadforum.com/general-discussion/14335-official-what-daw-s-do-you-use-poll.html
The poll had a total of 163 respondents.
What does that tell ya?
I'm going with "not much".

 
You answered your own question incorrectly. A survey with 163 respondents, especially when drawn from such a specific group of product users, tells plenty and is quite accurate.
 
During decades in broadcasting and advertising, I have personally headed multiple research projects. 100 respondents is a totally respectable sample size for any study that requires the input of specific product users and not the general public. 163 is even more reliable. The UAD survey was set up so no one could vote twice, and since it was not plugged here on the Sonar forum, it's quite unlikely that the Sonar ranking was hyped.
 
No survey is perfect, but the one in question is about as accurate as possible.

For sure. And some of the Cubase users could be using version 5, etc.
 
I'm not saying the UAD Forum survey is the absolute gospel truth, but it is an indicator of UAD users' favorite DAW's. It's not an endorsement of X2 specifically, but with Sonar in general ranking #4, that's a respectable showing for the brand. (Again, only 4 systems showed up with double-digit per centages; everyone else was lumped below that.)
 
Those who continually worry on this forum that Roland might abandon Sonar should realize that no company that owns this size of market share would ever discontinue such a product. Also, since Sonar is jam-packed with plug-ins, I would guess that it ranks even better with people who haven't invested in UAD cards and plug-ins.

spacey

wormser
Just sayin'...
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388711&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135
 
 

So after what's been going on here for almost a year what you're "just sayin'" is like a fart in a tornado.

Well, he did say "just sayin"
 
But it is kind of interesting to read the responses. The thing of it is that there was barely any mention of the one DAW that some just love to poke in there as the cover-all-bases  DAW...R*****r. 
 
DAW wars ...gotta love 'em

Anderton
When I see threads like the one on KVR, I can't help but think every minute spent debating the efficacy of a DAW in an online forum is one less minute spent making music. 

Oops! You've just lost one minute! ;)

Leadfoot
Remembering my beloved Tascam 4-track cassette portastudio I had in the mid eighties makes me appreciate the power we have nowadays. Remember the endless bouncing and sound degradation? Sometimes I think that some of the people doing the griping need to go back and re-acquaint themselves with the older technology for a while. Maybe they'll have a new found appreciation for what they're able to accomplish now.

Amen to that.  I have been involved with music since the 60's, feeling lucky to be able to record our high school band with an Ampex stereo recorder with 7" reels running at 7 1/2 ips.  Some people have never had the pleasure of recording from the "good old and bad" days, but we made it work. 
I never imagined the power we would have at our fingertips just 30 years ago.

FCCfirstclass

Leadfoot
Remembering my beloved Tascam 4-track cassette portastudio I had in the mid eighties makes me appreciate the power we have nowadays. Remember the endless bouncing and sound degradation? Sometimes I think that some of the people doing the griping need to go back and re-acquaint themselves with the older technology for a while. Maybe they'll have a new found appreciation for what they're able to accomplish now.

Amen to that.  I have been involved with music since the 60's, feeling lucky to be able to record our high school band with an Ampex stereo recorder with 7" reels running at 7 1/2 ips.  Some people have never had the pleasure of recording from the "good old and bad" days, but we made it work.  I never imagined the power we would have at our fingertips just 30 years ago.

My thoughts exactly. I think people who grew up using tape maybe have a different perspective.

I smile when I see people complaining about some terrible work around they have to do, such as having to insert an event before they can "delete hole" a few measures. I am just so grateful that I don't need to reach for a razor blade..

It's not about how rock solid Sonar is on your system or how great the program is for you. It's about songwriters, musicians, producers, etc. who are interested in Sonar but may unfortunately miss their opportunity to use the program which could eventually be their best daw JUST because of these Sonar-bashing threads in KVR and other forums. So, I think it's not a waste of time to reply to these threads and advise those interested in the program to try the demo and see if they like the product or not themselves.

 
Exactly.  I think its important for perspective purchasers who may be visiting this forum and thinking about buying X2, to know that overall, it is a great program.  If you have concerns about how it will run on your system, try the demo.  I personally don't buy any software or plug ins these days until I demo it.
 
There seems to be two groups of bashers.  One group that are legitimately having problems with the software.  I feel for them.  There also seems to be another group that just doesn't like the new GUI and the new work flow.  I understand that feeling as well.  I don't like the new GUI and work flow for Windows 8.  Of course, I have not used it much either.  If I spend more time with it, I may look back and find that I will have come to like it better than the old.  
 
I like the new work flow.  It works well for me.  Unfortunately for those that don't, I don't think Sonar will take a 180 degree turn and go back to the old.  One thing that I have always admired about Cakewalk is that they continually seem to be looking at the future and working towards new technology.  They may have anticipated touch screens and the changes may have all been geared towards these new technologies.  

mike_mccue
The fact is, dozens, maybe hundreds of these people you two are pointing fingers at and accusing of being less competent than your own grandiose selves can run the very same projects on Reaper and Studio One all day long with out a hiccup.
 
It is that easy.
 
The finger pointing is not appreciated... and make no mistake, I just think it's in poor taste... my SONAR install works 99.99% rock solid, so I know you are not speaking about me. :-)
 
I am simply insulted that some of you guys think that insulting other people is a demonstration of your friendly and helpful nature.
 
Well done.
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
edit spelling

 
Mike,
 
First off, I am familiar with your posts, and as far as I know, respect everything I've seen you say.
 
Second, if I come across grandiose, I apologize. I actually thought I was being helpful above. Sir, I am a hilljack, from a long line of them, red dirt hills of North Carolina, we do math well, but not politics. I'm currently domiciled well outside a major midwestern city, because I don't understand people, and can't stand to see them hurting. I really do not understand why people have so many troubles with computers and software.
 
I've been building systems since 1991, and have about 3500 of them under my belt. I do not believe that this is a case of statistical anomaly, that I've been lucky. I can't, the numbers won't let me. So...exactly what is going on here?
 
Well...there's a roommate's laptop about ten feet away...I've cleaned "free" junk off it several times now, and I know why it runs slow, halts, coredumps, all of it. I clean it up, have it running fine, give it back to her, and a couple months later, do it again. I let another roomie borrow a Tablet and a Galaxy S, got it back with a bunch of her BS on it, and took quite some time getting them to work properly again.
 
I don't do anything special to my machines. There is nothing self serving or grandiose about patching the box, installng the software you need and carefully selected,  avoiding temptation posed by too good to be true promises, and backing up critical data. In extremely rare cases, I hd to employ some skills not available to average computer users to resolve issues, one time a hiking forum was crashing every user's machine, and all my efforts came to nothing. Rcently Ihad a Focusrite interface that wouldn't play nice over USB, and swapped it for an M-Audio interface. That's it brother...except for the security issues mentioned earlier. I've been building digital audio workstations since 1991, on 8086 instruction set processors, and they function out of the box. NOT because of my great skills, because I'm not using any.
 
So....one of two possibilities...I'm not doing anything special, over thousands of computers, and they work, so...either these folks who are having problems are going against some piece of standard procedure, or else we are experiencing a long term statistical anomaly, chronic, consistent, bad luck,  that my experience says does not happen.
 
I've isolated a set of possibilities I've seen elsewhere, and presented them here, as intended service to the community. If my semantics need polishing to communicate this information, anyone who can talk without miffing people off is welcome to tune them up.
 
Ima throw one more possibility out there, for better or worse. I use pretty standard hardware. Audio interfaces that sell in the millions of units or more, starting with a Soundblaster Pro back in the day, up thru M-audio units today. I am going to guess that companies that sell software like Cakewalk test a lot more on hardware that sells millions of units than they test on rare, boutique, ultra high end, or ultra low end, or obscure hardware. I do not have enough instances to be certain of this premise, but the experience I do have supports this contention.
 
I know what it is to sit down to a machine that does not do what you want it too, day after day. I don't wish that on anyone. I have enough experience to possibly identify praxctices that may exacerbate these issues, and what may help. Here they are.
 
That's the best I've got.
 
 

Anderton
When I see threads like the one on KVR, I can't help but think every minute spent debating the efficacy of a DAW in an online forum is one less minute spent making music.
 

 I like this.
 
I will differentiate between debate over DAW merits, and trying to figure out why some can't enjoy the productivity others can, because one ends up "my DAW is bigger than yours" and the other is an attempt to share the wealth. Time spent sharing has always come back to me in positive ways.
 
As for one minute less making music...I have adopted a policy that I am FINISHED with hardware and software. Until I have to rebuild the whole house, anyway. I retired my last Win98SE machine in 2011, and they are still in storage, awaiting possible comeback if I find a need and the space.
 
When Windows 77 forces me to upgrade, I will look at new options, but till then, I am done with every new and sparkly "must have" doodad that comes along.
 
I have some learning curve to work thru to get what I am using now to achieve it's full potential, and I expect that to require at least 5, maybe ten years of my time. GnR is still selling, Zep is still selling, and Zep laid down their first album right about the time 4 tracks turned into 8, basically Beatles technology. That tells me where the hardware fits into the equation.
 
I look forward to building my new studio, with optical megabit processors, in 2025.
 
Till then, I have all KINDA toys to make music with, time to get at it.
 
BOOyah!

SteveStrummerUK

Linear Phase
I'm not banking on being a grammy winning producer.

Well.... I'm banking on being a granny winning producer.
 
 

You must have acquired the Wayne Rooney plugin

Jackdied
Just a little advice coming from my experience:

If you are thinking to install Sonar X on HD which is slower than 7200 rpm, think twice.. I don't know why but lots of problems are solved after  moving to new 7200 rpm HD though  most of them are not related to HD performance! 

But that´s not a special Sonar issue, for all daw´s (sequencer)at least hd´s with 7200 rpm are required.
 

Sorry..deleted because it formatted really strange.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I really don't understand the time wasted on this.  A DAW costs $300-400.  If you don't like one, buy another one.