I posted this also in another thread, but may help.

If drivers are an issue, you might want to try the free version of Iobit's Driver Booster. You can choose to either let it do updates or do them yourself, but it would at least define most of the problematic drivers on your system.

I admittedly did not read this thread in detail.

i haven't read all your troubleshooting stuff, but in case it hasn't been asked yet: have you tried with any other daw/apps-that-use-asio?
good luck!

@Bob, did you try another daw? (sorry if you already mentioned this)

install chipset first...then other drivers...eh.

Oh not sure about this yet, as both my systems are down now...
 
but realtech driver might have a asio app which interrupts some things if installed...I believe might be...a problematic with other competition for default.
 
MS uses with GM or GS midi...see the ties into...perhaps?

To explain my meaning further...Order....if you put motherboard drivers in first...they are claimed default...bound to OS as so...and bound to do...what MS os does....then you put another driver in...which one is default?...the first one put?...Ah..and MS keeps it...as so...for GM and GS and Input for audio tied to internet edge or internet protocol....
 
That said...it is odd audio is having issues eh?
 
Just saying...is it code worth looking into...or is it off limit to dig?
 

Audio lost driver?...yep!
Audio hickups?
Audio driver issues of third party...and installs of apps...Yep!
 
Am I on to something odd or even?...off is on, and on is off?...Yep.
 
See...OS LIES TO ITSELF...and USER!
 
Now...If that be true put in...to gain something of, you cannot defeat....As said is....Then what to do for?....
 
 
I see circles on mouse?...no access to drop down menu?...no sound working proper...and crash and bash the forums for answers never solving for long.
 
Well....If so, I touch a sore toe....I understand why so many Hate me posting reason?..or some tied Truth....Do not let Lies be put into...anything;;;;Best said by whom?
 
Just saying...it does cause Problems and troubles eh?
 
And...how does one solve?....again Kick the Horse not the rider!.....Making sense now?
 
 

Hi Les - I am continuing to work with Vlada on her issues - this thread is getting a bit cluttered up - perhaps you might consider opening a separate thread or two - so I can circle back and try to follow your listed issues there, rather than here - and I can try to assist you again to get some of your stuff working better?  (she is getting a bit confused going through her own thread)
 
Vlada's current situation is that a Sonar dump file has been created and some other system information gathered from her PC - and all have been attached to her open Case with Cakewalk technical support, where she is also going through things with them - in addition to whatever assistance I can provide her seperately from that.
 
Vlada's Presonus StudioLive FireWire audio interface is currently being 'seen' by Windows 10 Device Manager, however the device drivers for it - though installed - are NOT being detected by Windows, so the interface cannot be actually used by either Windows or any applications such as Sonar.
 
I have located some information that describes manually getting things adjusted within the Windows Registry to hopefully rectify the above condition, and I will coordinate that set of tasks with her tomorrow some time - perhaps in the afternoon.
 
She DID get Sonar to launch when she installed the drivers for an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra USB interface, so that's good - however the ultimate goal is to resolve the issues with the Presonus interface.
 
The Presonus interface drivers ARE officially supported by Presonus to work in Windows 10 x64, so if needed, I will contact them at the first opportunity during the week.  I have had great success working with them on a couple of my own issues - a couple of years back, with a Presonus AudioBox 1818VSL interface that I had.
 
OK - so that is the quick update to the situation, and I will post additional updates as they occur.
 
Bob Bone
 
 
 

One more thought of thoughts added in here...Is Nimrod still looking for the children of Hope...to ruin their efforts, and sway the masses to murder the one?...or is it not the many Plotting for a end to not come...of something not right at all done to make...mammon?...
 
I wonder Bob...I truly wonder about profiling...voice..word of the day typed and collected gained by spy ware...and doing as told, or put into heart by another of higher standings!.
 
Be mindful People....Same old same old....And king Cyrus will defend the Good of the Lord!
 
So still some time left....Right Bob...and CW over finding reason of this mystery...(what makes the application buggy continually ?)....the waters Dried up...and the land...and the holy things used for unholy use...The Lord of Hosts...let in to remove the evils of that day in Babble On Babylon,...Surely Revolves around Truth coming...Soon!
 
So...Yah ...I can hold off....But I like to solve for ...Mystery....and if the Universe melts away...and the moon waxes cold...and the son no longer Gives his Light over the Blessing because of ..Evildoers and worse so done....It will be the nashville nashing...surely said of teeth....
 
 
Save some, warn some, sign some...give some....Is it not all know some of.
 
Hay look up in the sky...is it a bird falling out of the sky...or look down below, is a whale beached of many?..or over here is war uttered with lies used?, and or over there more rape and chaos?...or in put corruption holding it as asked for to give tax and pay, and cost, and or so still put a market in over all houses into?....he said do not go for he is not there for those ones doing eh .....not doing as said to do....surely not saving much....and polluting or tainting it by breaking laws of Living...Commanded to keep as done doing life with Good spirit of helpers.....Surely is learnt here more so how to.
 
Now take that knowledge learnt...And apply it to World.
 
Best of the Remnant of life of many kinds done good onto all Life of good or better, helps the sin move to higher ground learning how to...Be Good...be kept so as to keep his word as asked done and said more so...is best...Some of for...the day of creation of life out of death...so some good ones taken can be lifted up to the NEW HOPE!.
 
No more sin...No more Evil..No more wicked...No more death!
 
Now...The story , and song remains the same.....only for the sin, evil and wicked...in world holding it wrong...When they come to their senses....Perhaps some might escape the fire.....Perhaps some will not.
 
That said as story goes onward burning...In a atomic soup de jour....Made by same old same old...weapons and engineering for dollars more so....Playing with the tree of Life, used to make death of all....Might give us...Reason to do as the Lord asked we do....And save some out of the fire.
 
Life.
 
Be good..Be kind in Kind...Be good with mind over matters...Be trustworthy...Be honest with your comings and your goings....Be mindful of others...do not trespass much onto others...and forgive them...if they do.
 
Now...this lets some pass...some do not pass....Surely do not mock them as they do try to figure!
 
Cheers!
 

"""""""""""Say 2000 Quote marks said first said to the elementals made by God...and 2000 more after saying it....so it stands as said.....Let us Make EDEN into Edens without sin done..."""" world is not, computer is not, weapons have nothing to do with it either...and or forgiveness of those who do not listen to reason...nor follow in the right paths...Shown By his son, and the Father....and holy Ghost is sent to comfort....Yeh....So, when is it done by all?...or is terror appointed over them wicked, sinners, and evil doers now....and them Seeing it, wanting it to stop...Yet know not how to...While holding and rebuilding...What was burnt to a crisp, so as to say Signs on the Earth...You know my God hates!....Why do they test his resolve?.....They know not, the signet of His coming?....Liars!...and use his signet to kill and murder more so?....
 
Oh...
 
He has nothing to do with them who do such things....Ask, he does not hear, nor does he bless them...But wrath is upon all who hold it dear...and will not let it go!
 
So, said...We have time to figure out the circle of fifths.....And take the narrow path...No one is on in World...But far off on another path....Eden is being made by...You now know...The trick of the tale.....And more so put in of Terror upon for...is for good reasoning be done to solve for that also!.
 
What makes it so?....Read the Book of telling....First part is the first part....Last part is the last part....There is no other way but the first part...to do now!...And save as much as you can doing it freely sown, freely given, freely shared...Of which they try not to let us do.
 
That said...Give back to ""creator"...something taken without premission from his Garden...freely without sin...Solves much error in the living of...He Made. for US to Have dominion over...Intent of Good over, and wisdom put over for the whole...of life...no bad is in that intent...As the Son said, Only The Father is Good.....Be his son...whom is the salvation of the World....for he, said it like I see it....World when corrected of its sin...Idol worship..and go back from into doing as told....Live with the Lord...caring and sharing much of the Fathers wishes...Be Given to all Life...good or very Good made of all.
 
See reason for his coming?....Be well in doing...and stand out of sin, under his commandments doing as asked first...done first is correct, done last is understanding what has not yet been done...needs be done first or last the proper way.......raises you up repented of not seeing eye to eye, or doing as first said to do!
 
If not in Eden...it is because you did not make as asked with the givens given for to make.....World is not A garden...Garden is a Garden....Machine is not a Garden...and so on...measure the ideal idea...of what words mean when uttered by the King.......Eden...Now if in sin with and in holdings...of Idol of engraved things made by Man bent or woman bent working their life away not doing any of that restoration of...Life..by doing proper...How is it not able?....Tax put onto the land taints the land...Eh?...Tax and cost on food taints the processing of it...Surely...and cost put onto all we do...Murphy is in...surely said....is?
 
Now gather it up...As told...and as shown does create...and why it was shown..Them...As the Son did do....Yes he did do.
 
Now..if more so the word and instruction is spread over most of the known world....Why is it they cannot do as asked, and if so doing some...They are hated and made criminals...Yet, in the same breathe....Why is it they are who hold it dear, and murder many. and doctors try to save those in world with concoction of mixing in dead things to try to save the new born...only to serve the work of for idol?..and yet never do they solve the root cause of the now entrophic state of decay of flesh, and death all around found falling away from Earth now of many going extinct?..or just as the Lord said would be signs of only as Jonah.....Are never brought to justice, while they make unholy the house, and the land and the monument of build again....knocked down by....what?...and they tell more lies to make some believe it was .....One...yet slaughtered many to rebuild it with blood.
 
 
Think hard...think long ...think....or think not!..for you cannot think...if reason is not now with the King of truth...then stay with the King of lies still holding it out to make more of, is greed for it, is his love to pollute it more so with, same thing God hates used!
 
Wrath and woe eh?
 
Reason?
Cheers.
 
 
Mystery....or they know not what they do, creating sin evil and wicked...heaped upon!
 

It is relevant to solving error though!
if it be...as it is in world sold....so no, it  has relevant ties!
 

Now fishing...With the Lord must come..and the basket made ready!...Break for interruption of words written....To go enjoy what is left to see...of his coming no doubt...The King of Kings said something about as he left, he will return same way....for his friends!
 

I did not bother to read the above posts, though did glance briefly here and there as I scrolled down.  I don't believe much of any of what I looked at did anything to actually assist Vlada.
 
As far as updating this post - that is why I returned here - it took several days of working with Vlada and she with the Presonus folks and a whole bunch of digging through online information and trying various things and all of that.
 
1) As it turns out, there is some kind of issue with the Presonus drivers for the StudioLive 24.22. audio interface that Vlada has been trying to get working - that this thread was created for discussing.
 
2) Sonar AS WELL, seems to have been failing when in its initialization processing - dealing with some strange situation, from the audio interface, that in my opinion Sonar should have handled a bit more gracefully than it failing.  It is also important to note that in Sonar's defense - somewhat - when there is bad logic in an audio interface's drivers, in a way all bets are off, HOWEVER Sonar could have displayed some error message and handled the condition - since the audio interface wasn't even physically connected and Sonar still failed.
 
3) it turns out that PART of the issue was that the Presonus driver installation process itself made a bit of a mess of its own installation files - and after I did some research into it - Vlada was able to manually update the drivers to point to the proper paths and settings for the interface to finally show up as working in Windows 10.
 
4) BUT - even with the interface seen by Windows, and indicating itself working properly, and Sonar finally opening, there is STILL the condition that there is no sound heard on playback, AND the meters do not show any levels.
 
So - there doesn't seem anything that the Presonus folks will deal with further - Vlada's interface is discontinued and long out of warranty - I cannot speak for Vlada - I think this reflects where she is after her conversations with their tech support folks.
 
As far as SONAR goes - it would be nice if they could adjust whatever bit of initialization code needed - so that such a condition can be handled in a way that doesn't crash Sonar, and generates an error message to inform the user to the error condition.
 
Vlada does have a potential temporary solution - in that she has a much less feature-rich, but functioning M-Audio / Avid USB interface she can use while reviewing options on looking at alternate interfaces for purchase so she can meet her needs with something that will work on her monster Windows 10 PC.
 
Bob Bone
 

I wholeheartedly agree (wow that was a 13-letter word) - I hope I didn't raise anyone's expectations on me continuing to use such big huge giant words.  :)
 
Anyways - I actually have a Presonus AudioBox 1818VSL and it is very happy with life - being a USB interface.  
 
I DO have a tremendous sense of sadness for what Vlada and others (Les) with hardware components and drivers from hell have endured.
 
And Les - despite my not wanting you to continue flooding this thread with rambling whatever those were posts of yours - not too long ago I made you a sincere offer to literally ship you this very computer I am typing this from, whenever it is that I make a move to a new setup.  This would ensure that at least once you would have a computer that works well with Sonar - as I know you have been through the wringer with it all for ages.  Now - to that end, any discussion of any of that should really be outside of this thread - I am only typing this bit about it because it does tie to my comments here about Vlada's situation and my reply to Dan.
 
So - I literally have not had a Sonar crash for anything other than me trying out some 32-bit leftover plugins I wanted to see if still worked, for a long long time - and part of the success I believe I have had is because I PURPOSEFULLY do NOT go out and grab the cutting edge hardware - it is TOO prone to problems, and too many companies take too long to embrace hardware at the fringes - the high-end performance monsters.
 
I am MUCH happier having a decent AMD CPU and 32 GB of memory, an inexpensive SSD for my primary drive, and 5 additional 7,200 HDD's for all the other stuff, and having ZERO performance or reliability problems - than I would be if I were hell-bent on pushing the extremes of hardware components.  I still have literally over 40,000 sounds, and everything works.
 
I am MANY hundreds of dollars better off - AND I never ever have any system problems - I just don't have them.  It is not by luck or happenstance - it is because I choose well-made components at great prices, and the performance of my system absolutely meets my needs.  I am not meaning to sound like I am gloating or anything at all like that - I am suggesting that there is a lot to offer by building computers that work reliably - and to me, that is an essential part of the whole design/build decision making process.
 
Bob Bone
 

Les - When I referred to not having system problems, I am meaning to say with the operating system itself.  I have a stable OS - with Windows 10, and I don't even recall the last time Windows 10 OR Windows 8.1.1 crashed on me.
 
CERTAINLY there are bugs within Sonar, and other software, specially some drivers - and Vlada's issues were in large part due to crappy Windows 10 drivers written by PRESONUS for her particular hardware mixer/interface.
 
I DID have to reauthorize a few of my soft synth collections, following some Windows 10 maintenance, but that took just a few minutes to accomplish.  I believe I might have had something get reset as well, but again it was not any major deal to change back again.  But, that was about it for me.
 
MY system has a stable Sonar, certainly it does not crash, and my audio interface happens to be running without problems - it is a USB audio interface - at the moment using a Yamaha/Steinberg UR-22.
 
My last 4 computers were also all quite stable - and if memory serves, I did occasionally have crashes with both Sonar X1 and X2, but workarounds for those issues were found by others having those common issues, and subsequent maintenance put fixes in place for whatever was causing crashes.
 
With regard to Vlada's horrific experience, there does not seem to be any hope of the Presonus folks actually owning the failure in their interface drivers, which means Vlada has a $2,000 boat anchor instead of a mixer/interface, and she has to look around for something else to meet her needs.  NOT a good place for her to be.
 
Bob Bone