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2011/06/14 14:10:11 (permalink)

Sonitus Plugins

Hey all,
 
I own many different kinds of plugins.  From the included Sonitus Suite to WAVES, T-Racks, Izotope, UAD, etc., etc.
 
Say what you like but I always find myself using the Sonitus plugs for one thing or another.  Solid, dependable, clean interface and they JUST SOUND GOOD.
 
I was just wondering if this thought had crossed anyone else's mind...  Would Cakewalk / Sonitus ever consider adding an opto compressor and spectrum analysis to the existing suite?  Maybe even update the color scheme of the plugs?
 
Or some feedback on what you would maybe like to see added.
 
Just thought I would throw that out there.  Let me know what you think.
 
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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 14:13:20 (permalink)
    I have always thought that the sonitus effects are one of Sonar's strong suits. They are great, and I miss the crap out of the sonitus eq being built into each channel. I personally would love a update on these!!!
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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 15:56:49 (permalink)
    Thanks for your input JSkeen.
     
    Really?  Nobody here has an opinion about the Sonitus Suite? 
     
    I'm sure there must be someone out there that likes these plugs, but would also like to see some additions and/or changes and updates.
     
    Come on; Let's hear your ideas.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 16:14:01 (permalink)
    gui redesign and a good limiter

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 16:14:48 (permalink)
    spectrum analysis would be cool also

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 16:38:35 (permalink)
    Really they are too good to just let them die. With a few tweaks and features they would be amazing!!!!
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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 16:42:23 (permalink)
    They're totally underrated. The verb is way better than people think, the delay and compressor are both incredibly useful. The EQ is my go-to sculpting tool.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 16:50:16 (permalink)
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    Come on; Let's hear your ideas.

    My ideas are usually found HERE
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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 17:15:27 (permalink)
    The Sonitus stuff is very good and remains that way.  However, Cake bought Sonitus years ago, so I'm not sure where the original coder(s) is/was.  So it wouldn't be Sonitus, really.

    I like the Prochannel too.  I think I like the EQ better than Sonitus, or I have been using it more, anyway, maybe because it is easy to engage.

    It is hard to sell an older product like Sonitus, tho.  Not a great selling point, tho I agree that a "new" Sonitus limiter would be nice and could be a sell point.

    But I also like some of the newer plugs Cake has added, or pieces of them.  They really ought to make a chain out of them w/ "presets"  for vox, drums etc.  As it is now they are separate plugs.  But I guess the Prochannel is the new kid on the block and will get the attention.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 17:21:22 (permalink)

    I really like the Sonnitus stuff... it's 64 bit... it sounds good and it works really well.


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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 17:29:36 (permalink)
    don't have many feature recommendations, but i do use many instances of the eq and reverb in each project. i always notch and hi/low pass with sonitus eq.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 17:54:50 (permalink)
    The only thing I don't like is that the mouse clicks don't always register. I've had this problem from day one with them on any Sonar version, any bit version. 

    Specially the EQ. Sometimes I have to click multiple times to drag the EQ plot nodes. If I drag the value bars, no problem.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 18:03:00 (permalink)
    Goto Downloads, Sonitus FX for some gui color tweaks. 
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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 18:21:32 (permalink)
    The Sonitus plugs are mostly excellent, I still use them a lot. The reverb is indeed an under-appreciated gem. The gate is terrible, though, really fluttery. Weird that of all of them, this most seemingly simple one is the one that sucks.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:06:54 (permalink)
    Awesome.  So I'm not the only one who really loves these plugins, but would like to see a little more attention paid to them.
     
    Honestly, by just adding a few more components (limiter, spectrum analysis, etc.) and a simple updating of the GUI - I bet people would take to them even more and probably think they sounded better as well.
     
    Just like the old saying "Sex Sells".  I have to believe most of what sells the more expensive plugins for the competition is the way they look.  They're sexier looking, but not necessarily better sounding.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:13:53 (permalink)
    So I'm not the only one who really loves these plugins, but would like to see a little more attention paid to them.
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    The Sonitus plugs are mostly excellent, I still use them a lot. The reverb is indeed an under-appreciated gem. The gate is terrible, though, really fluttery. Weird that of all of them, this most seemingly simple one is the one that sucks.

    Really? I love the gate, because you can fine the thresholds and release. It works really well for me. What gate do you use? I'm always down for checking out new toys ;)

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:23:54 (permalink)
    I find it to be a pig for anything other than simple noise gating stuff. For rhythmic effects and gated reverb and so forth, I've never been able to get along with it. Maybe it's something I'm doing, but I find the other Sonitus plug ins really intuitive and easy to get good results from.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:27:06 (permalink)
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    Just like the old saying "Sex Sells".  I have to believe most of what sells the more expensive plugins for the competition is the way they look.  They're sexier looking, but not necessarily better sounding.


    I know what you mean, but on the other hand, I'm getting a bit weary of the visual style of contemporary plug-ins. Too much effort going into looking cool on the back of the box, and not enough into being functional and readable. In some ways, the Sonitus plugs are from a time of high water mark in actual usability design in plug ins.

    The low water mark would be the VC-64, which is very good under the hood, but a user-hostile hassle in terms of interface design.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:35:15 (permalink)
    That is a perfect example John T.  The VC-64 is one sweet plugin in terms of sound and functionality.  But the interface leaves a bit to be desired.
     
    It took me a while to use it at first just because I was put off by the way it looked, but after I used it...I loved the way it sounded.  To me it sounds very rich and smooth.  Almost analog if you will.
     
    But it kind of looks like retro-chic gone bad or something. lol.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 19:47:28 (permalink)
    It's very good, yeah, but I find I hardly use it any more because every time I open it I can't remember what the hell anything does. And I can barely read the crazy fonts.

    There are enough plug-ins that are comparable in terms of quality that ease-of-use starts to edge it for frequent use.

    Slight tangent, but I find the Pro Channel to be a huge success on that score. Everything does what it looks like it does.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/14 23:27:53 (permalink)
    Wouldn't changing the color scheme change the sound we all love from Sonitus?!  :-P
    I agree with you - I've made fine sounding music with these.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/15 04:46:53 (permalink)
    The Sonitus suite of plugs are still my goto plugs for most applications, unless I know in advance that something else is required.

    The compressor is a breeze to set up
    The EQ is extremely flexible & musical
    Both get used extensively in all my projects, and most of the others get used quite regularly - the delay, reverb, phase etc


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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/15 08:02:20 (permalink)
    Couldn't agree more.  They're really good.
     
    Another nice suite of plugins are the golden series from Kjaerhus Audio.  I don't think the company exists anymore, but I've had a couple of these units (EQ, and Compressor) and they were VERY nice indeed.
     
    I bring it up because I had read an article once about Sonar's VC-64 being modeled after the Kjaerhus Golden Audio Channel.
     
    I believe you can still get those plugs from www.kvraudio.com
     


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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/15 09:52:27 (permalink)
    Fro memory, the VC64 has far fewer bands than the one above, but to be fair, it's been a while since I used the VC64 so i might be wrong.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/15 12:01:24 (permalink)
    and a simple updating of the GUI

    What don't you like about the GUI? I think their UI is fantastic. The multiband comp has just about the best UI of any multiband comp out there, all the parameters are available and easy to adjust.

    A spectrum analyzer on the eq would be nice, and it would be nice to be able to lasso the eq control points and move them all together, but overall I think the sonitus UI is still among the best when it comes to actual usability.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/15 19:20:26 (permalink)
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    The Sonitus stuff is very good and remains that way.  However, Cake bought Sonitus years ago, so I'm not sure where the original coder(s) is/was.  So it wouldn't be Sonitus, really.
     
    Point of order.  Cake didn't buy Sonitus...they bought the rights and the code base for their line of FX.  They have done some extension of the original code in the eons since the acquisition (adding side-chaining for instance).



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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/16 00:24:25 (permalink)
     
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    So I'm not the only one who really loves these plugins, but would like to see a little more attention paid to them.
    John T



    The Sonitus plugs are mostly excellent, I still use them a lot. The reverb is indeed an under-appreciated gem. The gate is terrible, though, really fluttery. Weird that of all of them, this most seemingly simple one is the one that sucks.

    Really? I love the gate, because you can fine the thresholds and release. It works really well for me. What gate do you use? I'm always down for checking out new toys ;)

    I gotta chime in here and add my +1 for the sonitus gate - it absolutely does the job for me. I'm a fan of all the sonitus plugs, I'm a regular user for the EQ, compressor, gate, reverb and the delay. Ocassionaly I look up the modulation and phaser plugs, They are just really quick and easy if you know what you want...very professional tools in the right hands. I'm not one for endlessly experimenting with new funky version of the same kind of effect - I think the fleet of plug-ins that come with sonar over the years has been excellent and more and more I find myself using less and leess third party plug ins.
     
    BTW I mainly record folk and rock, 90% audio..so the setting tend not to be too experimental but I'm mixing a really outside the box prog tune at the mo and the plug are doing their job, also inpiriing me along they way to try different new things.


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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/16 00:34:25 (permalink)
    Love the sonitus delay and I use the gate sometimes and the compressor-

    A kick ass sounding song can be made with the sonitus suite alone, period.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/16 01:02:12 (permalink)
    Important but minor distinction, Dan.  Still, precision is good.  And a Sonitus limiter would be nice to replace the much unloved Boost.

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    Re:Sonitus Plugins 2011/06/16 08:38:53 (permalink)
    I use it all the time. For most effects they are my first line of defence. I especially like the multiband compressor. Agreeing with most people here, I would be very happy to see a spectrum analysis plugin. I'm surprised that there isn't a native one in Sonar.

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