Sorry to have to ask...Why has Sonar (and now X1) seemed to crash so often for so many??

Really.  Why??  Wait a minute, Cakewalk Storm Troopers!  Dial your light sabres back to "warn".  It is self evident to anyone who has followed these forums for lo these many years that Sonar, in most of it's iterations, is prone to crashing on many, many systems.  That IS NOT to say ALL systems as, apparently, it has left some blessed few alone.  But I have quite literally TRIED MY DAMNEDEST to get Studio 1 Pro to crash and, as yet, have been left in the dust, defeated.  I have done things to it that I would not dare do in Sonar owing to having learned my lessons over and over again.  And yet I am stymied.  But, like the man from La Mancha hisownself, I will continue my quest to crash Studio 1 Pro.  And when I do... I'll report back.
 
PS:  If you don't hear from me for 72 hours...send a search party...I'm likely to be in trouble.
  (I'll change the title, if that helps:-)

Must be their systems. Nothing to do with SONAR at all.

Haven't you guys heard all this. Where have you been past 6 weeks?

Really? You have to ask? Sigh...

Bad systems poorly managed and the list goes on 1 month now
2 error reports no crash's ..fix'd with C++ 2010 update....and

why are so many users haveing few or no issues running so well.
shoulda been your question, unless your drumming up .....chit !!

We have been through this sort of thing before. Each version on first release causes many to have problems. Only after some patching does a solid version emerge.  However we see in this version more posts on these lines due to CW taking on more then the usual feature inclusion.

The very nature of the new GUI with the extensive reworking of the graphics engine was bound to have a major impact on lots of systems.

Then we also have a whole new way of doing things which is for many, confounding. Its a perfect storm of so many things coming together that have made this release both revolutionary for some and distasteful for others that we have diatribes being written and constant pro/con exchanges. We see the results played out on this forum everyday.

No..John, ol pal...and others...that is not what I'm talking about.  I've never had ANY version or update of Sonar that didn't crash on a semi-regular basis.  Honest.  And I've had different computers, interfaces, plugins and setups for many different iterations of Sonar...heck even before I had any plugins and I cannot remember a time when Sonar did not crash at the very least "infrequently".  And although X1 seems to be a fairly  stable release... I still get hang ups on closing projects and the occasionall CTD.  That is why my inability to (as yet) crash S1 is so interesting...and challenging to me.  And to those who say..."oh S1 crashes for lots and lots of people"  I'd say...no, it doesn't.  It crashes for SOME people.  But Sonar, at least in my experience, has crashed regularly for MOST people.  And this is coming from a truly "lifelong" Sonar user and advocate.  Put down your friggin brickbats, will ya?
 
PS: To my ol pal, Humblenoise...Yea, I do...I'm genuinely curious.  Since I've never used other products I have no comparitive basis.  Sorry.

This very question is why I started threads like the "what rate are you using". It was a way to try and gather some sort of logic about why it works well for some and not for others. After all, many of us DO have shinny new computers that should handle the stress so indeed....why?

Also, many of us have the same plugs. I know yorolpal has has issues with amplitube 3, I really have not......why? We even have similar audiocards. wt_____?

And I know that this has gotten me into a lot of hot water, but frankly.......I'm not crashing. Actually 8.5.3 never really crashed on me either (I just really didn't like using it)

with all due respect: if that happend here ever.. Id fly to
Boston system software in hand >> 8.5.3 never faild 1
time ..after I changed the bad Seagate C: drive and fix'd
where things install'd.. its realy down to system and where people got their software from A music system on line.. not
here..Box..jon

dontletmedrown


Since installing PT9 on Nov.13th I still have not experienced a single crash.  Quite astonishing coming from Sonar which really seemed to hate me.  If I added up all the times it ever crashed on me over the six years I used it... hundreds and hundreds of times (probably close to a thousand or more).  Minutes of my life stolen from me one at a time.  I know I know... all daws crash...  I'm just glad mine doesn't anymore.

Im glad your recording. no matter what software your using ..good luck..We dont crash here ever..jon

timidi  .. your next motherboard ....

http://www.supermicro.com...ard/Core/P67/C7P67.cfm

should be on the streets realy soon.. Its a workstation Not
a online chatt box.. thats what linux and our old systems
are for...jon

Since I've never used other products I have no comparitive basis.

 
I'm sorta in that boat, too. Never used another major DAW software since Cubase 3 days.

BlixYZ


i just googled " presonus studio 1 pro crashes".
it crashes for many people for many reasons.
pc, mac, 
logic, pro tools,
doesnt matter.
with all the different companies making hardware and software coomponents, crashing is going to happen ffrom time to time.
i have had fewer crashes so far with X1 than any other incarnatiion of sonar (or cakewalk for that matter).  
nothing makes it crash but opening more than one project at a time.  
even that bugs me tho.
no pun intended.

I also google'd that and noticed a lot of the crash reports are old reports (version 1 mostly) and didn't many 'recent' reports.
 
But we all know an app can crash on a system so it's not to say S1 is 'perfect' (I doubt any software can be).
 
But like Ol Pal - I haven't had ONE single burp, ONE single crash at all and I've been using it quite a bit lately.
 
Yet, 8.5.3 was very rock solid for me, whereas X1 was glitchy and burpy.   At first I was crashing with X1 but found what was causing that on my system, and it didn't crash after that (though I have been stress testing it lately).
 
But the other annoyances were enough for me to put it aside.   I do hope X1B will solve most of that.
 
But there really is a "smoothness" to Studio One that I've never felt in Sonar (yet).
 
As for crashing, I do think with all the under-the-hood changes in X1 that it may even be a normal "shakeout" period, so it may not be unexpected at this time.
 
 

yorolpal


That's what is so maddening...and I'm sure frustrating for all the Cake guys and gals.  Two folks can have seemingly the same (for all practical purposes) systems, using the same plugs and one can have regular crashes and the other never experiences any.  Why??  Here's the kind of anomaly I'm talking about:  In X1 I get infrequent BSODs referencing my M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Interface (not Sonar...just the FTU).  In S1 I have not had one single BSOD of any kind...let alone referencing the FTU.  And this is just one example of the disparate nature of the hangups and crashes I'm refering to. 

Just to add (and I only have the "artist" version) S1 regardless of it's "lack" of features is really stable. The closest thing to a hiccup I've had was pitchshifting a loop and I did get the spinning wheel (scared me) but it was the only time anything has been weird.

Well...if Tim IS on to something...then give me X1 PRO "lean and mean" version.  Let me choose what features I need and what I don't.  But I'm still not convinced he IS on to something.  Yet.

should change the topic : Why is X-1a running so well for
so many..but not you >?