Demo downloaded and installed without much drama (except I found my Korg Legacy collection has lost it authorization yet again ). Only one plugin failed to scan but this did not cause any issues.
 
Setting up MIDI inputs threw me at first but was quickly resolved with A RTFM.
 
I am sadly lacking any creative inspiration at the moment so I hope to get a basic feel for the workflow in the next couple of days, looks like a different approach with instrument tracks as opposed to Audio and MIDI tracks which will take a bit of getting used to.
 

In addition to starting something from scratch, a better way to evaluate many features is to download a demo song (from the start screen), and work around the GUI. Scratch Pads and the Arranger Track will not get justice if making a song from scratch during the demo period - with a demo song you can start messing with those immediately.
 
There are hot spots similar to the smart tool within SONAR, but they also do not equate 1 for 1. Additionally, they also have hot keys you can press and hold to shift tool functions (dependent on view you are working in). MIDI implementation is a bit different in some respects, but PreSonus also made it clear that they have proprietary "MIDI" internally to bypass limitations of MIDI alone. I am not a heavy MIDI user, so cannot speak in great depth to what pitfalls lie in that area (I also do not use Kontakt).
 
The niggle I still have is no track templates as they are implemented in SONAR.

Well looks like Gibson has committed PR suicide as far as DAW's go!

ZincTrumpet
When I was familiarising myself with Studio One Pro a few months back, I found a really good Eli Krantzberg video on Groove 3 where he creates a song from start to finish. It's called First Song with Studio One 3.

It's good because he covers a lot of the elements that you will use all the time including shortcuts, instruments and features of the software. I actually re created the song he made as I went following his video.

https://www.groove3.com/t...Song-with-Studio-One-3

I certainly found that it got me up to speed quickly. To be clear, I was at the point of switching from Sonar to S1Pro happily using version 3.3. Then version 3.5 came along and made it completely unstable and unusable for me. I will be revisiting and maybe completely reinstalling it in the coming days. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for that, however, it is a pretty straightforward DAW. Another hour or two, and some memorizing of new shortcuts, and I'll be okay. Already have a basic song project for experimentation. Next will be porting my midi "idea" projects over. That won't be nearly as much fun, lol...
 
Dan

Question for S1 users: anybody using the full Melodyne Editor with it? I really liked how smoothly it integrated into SONAR.

Yes, I always felt that the Studio One ARA integration was superior, most certainly far less flakey/buggy and prone to all the anomalies that I experienced with SONAR and that get reported here. You naturally find differences in certain procedures etc, but as for the integration/implementation, Studio One seems to be much more robust, I guess as the Co developers of the ARA technology along with Celemony they may have a foot in the DAW (sorry)
 
But there is only one way to find out, and that is for yourself.
 
I have the latest Melodyne Studio Edition
 
[edit] I also recall people posting here that you couldn't do such ansuc with Studio One (I think it had to do with freezing and unfreezing or something, can't recall with certainty) but of course you could/can, they just didn't know how to do it.You need to learn how something is done in a product that is new to you, and not just throw your arms up and say it doesn't, of course you know that, and once you know then the playing field is evened out. You can't necessarily as some expect, do something in a product you have only started using as quickly or efficiently as you can in a product you have been using for years. That is an unrealistic expectation.

OK, I'll take that as a "yes" - Melodyne Studio (not Melodyne Essential) is as seamlessly integrated in Studio One as it is in SONAR. 

bitflipper
Question for S1 users: anybody using the full Melodyne Editor with it? I really liked how smoothly it integrated into SONAR.

Yes, the Melodyne Editor software works well. Presonus was one of the first to integrate Melodyne directly into the DAW (Melodyne Assistant). A note of caution, if you already have the Editor package and purchase Studio One Pro, be careful you don't install the Assistant version of Melodyne that comes with Studio One (your Editor version will automatically integrate with Studio One (use the custom install to unselect Melodyne installation).
 
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olemon

ZincTrumpet
When I was familiarising myself with Studio One Pro a few months back, I found a really good Eli Krantzberg video on Groove 3 where he creates a song from start to finish. It's called First Song with Studio One 3.

Same here.  I was looking at Studio One because of the PreSonus hardware it supports, like the Faderport(s), and because several Youtube mixers are using it, but I have so much time and $$ invested in Sonar already, and for what I do it's more than I'll ever need.  Waiting and seeing I guess.

A good point worth mentioning is that Presonus is both a hardware "AND" software company and the Presonus surfaces (Faderport, CS series) integrate tightly with Studio One. For the studio, the new StudioLive III mixers look very interesting and should have full DAW control very soon (with a FW upgrade due by the end of the year). 
 
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I use Melodyne Studio 4 and it works great in S1. Multi-blob editing, tempo mapping, etc. It's all there and all good. 
I am using a Fader Port 16 now with S1 and it is awesome. I am also looking at the Series III console. The hardware/software integration keeps getting better and better. I am loving using a board again!
 
All this stuff is well covered in videos. There are hundreds of them out there to see.
 
I don't use vintage or legacy synths anymore so I don't need SysEx or libraries. 
For normal midi editing, the editor works great. I miss the midi filters you can use with Sonar and I miss Sonar's mixer snapshot. S1 has scenes you can save. You can save versions of your song all day long without duplicating source wave files. 
There is a lot to learn with S1 but it is really clean and straight forward. There really is a lot to like about it. 
 

bitflipper
Question for S1 users: anybody using the full Melodyne Editor with it? I really liked how smoothly it integrated into SONAR.

When I was using S1Pro a lot (before v3.5) I used the full Melodyne editor and found it as easy as in Sonar and certainly as well integrated. I didn't install the essential version that came with S1Pro but it still picked up and used my full version.

olemon
Just in time, a new tutorial at Groove 3....
 
https://www.groove3.com/t...e-Automation-Explained

Yet another reason I'm glad I picked up another year on the BF sale!

dcumpian

TheMaartian

olemon
Just in time, a new tutorial at Groove 3....
 
https://www.groove3.com/t...e-Automation-Explained

Yet another reason I'm glad I picked up another year on the BF sale!

These are free...
 
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvw8caaTyXjN8WWBKxU-fv90OilpezxDv
 
Regards,
Dan

I've got links to a lot of S1 video tuts, but I've never come across this channel before. Sub'd! Thanks for the heads-up!
 
That said, Groove3 is a really good value on BF pricing. I had some of their virtual cash left over, and got another year for less than $65. They cover an awful lot of what I use.

my SPlat has been pretty solid too.   How about the Presonus?