Sweetwater has EZDrummer on sale for $29 This Weekend Only....battling BFD Eco I guess...

And for those who don't have it, you get 8000 midi drum patterns with it, which is just about every basic pattern. It's Bargainsville, Arizona.

You can get Eco for $14 at sweetwater with some coupon.
Even at the same price Eco is a far better product so it's not much of a battle.
Good review here. (http://www.airusersblog.com/home-page/2011/11/19/fxpansion-bfd-eco-review.html0

Steve

Hey Guys,
 
Thanks again ditto for the heads up.
 
This thing got serious plus and minuses.
 
Minus is online activation. Company goes down you're screwed. Next minus is a limited set of drums. Got a Cocktail set and another set with a few variations. Big minus is the lack of control over the individual drum. No effects, no tuning (BIG ONE), no comp, no damp, no effects, not much of anything beyond pan and volume.
 
Plus side is the mic ambiance covers a lot of ground. Rim shots are good. Velocity layers are credible. Overall sound of the kit provided is good.
 
Best thing in this is the librarian feature, especially if you have a better drum box somewhere else. Some have installed who know what programs with endless midi loops. They claim that EZDrummer is not an LE version in Superior. Lied point blank, it's less than a Superior LE. They claim making loops in minutes instead of hours. This is straight.
 
Personal pref only, but I would have not gone for the thing if the librarian function were not so elegant. I got a ton of midi drum loops that are useless because they are so hard to audition. Toss them into EZDrummer and you can quickly audition each loop, drag and drop it into Cake piece by piece. Fast and furious. Follows the GM layout so the created composites can then be played in Steve Slate, Jamstix...drum boxes with a wider set of sounds. Good investment from the book keeping side.
 
John

I have ezDrummer. Have had it since it came out. And I have a lot of EX packs too. But I am going to jump on the BFD thing. I read about that thing (BFD Eco) and if it performs anywhere close to ezDrummer, it will be a win win for me!! Accually from things I have heard about BFD on this forum, I really expect it to perform just as well as ezDrummer.

yorolpal, that's good to hear. I have never been disappointed with ezd. Never. But once I got into Session Drummer 3 (which is not that bad at all) I thought I would give the BFD a try. But I'd like to get it for the $15 price that I am hearing about!! I'm cheap!!

Yes I also would like the Americana EXP also! I also would do like yorolpal says and if you don't have ezDrummer, don't miss this chance to pick it up at this price. As John was saying, it has some limitations over more complex programs.  But for what it does, it can't be beat!! I forgot to say that in my earlier posts. 

Just to pick up on some points here (from John in particular)

I understand the issues around online activation and FXpansion have the same method too. I don't see either fxpansion or Toontrack going out of business for a while but these things have happened before. Anyone remember livesynth?

Both Eco and EZdrummer have small sets which is why they are (lite) versions. They are intended for people who have less capable DAW's. Addictive drums is the same but has no big brother to upgrade to and is, in my opinion very over priced compared with it's peers.

When it comes to control (or lack of) then BFD Eco is the winner by a country mile over EZdrummer.
It has some seriously good effects (including channel and bus compressors) that are tailored for drums as well as tuning, dampening, velocity to amp, global and individual dynamic control, flip ambience, humanize control, bleed control, and some others that you'll have to discover for yourself :)


Plus side is the mic ambiance covers a lot of ground. Rim shots are good. Velocity layers are credible. Overall sound of the kit provided is good.

In my view the overall sound of Eco is far better than EZdrummer. The ambience is warm and it breaths like, well like a room with great ambience.

If there's one area that EZdrummer might be better is that I think it probably has more midi loops than Eco (Eco has 1.500) I'm not sure how many more and I doubt that it's that many.
For me this is meaningless as I shun the idea of using loops and prefer to create my own drum patterns.


I just don't understand why people are still even considering EZdrummer over BFD Eco when, even at twice the price Eco is by far the better product.
I don't mean to be too harsh on EZdrummer and it is what it is but it has absolutely NOTHING! over Eco and Eco is still cheaper, (especially while sweetwater are offering the $14 discount

Yorolpal, I just don't get it, why would you "definitely" choose EZD over Eco.
Can you tell me why you think it's better? I mean feature by feature comparison and sound quality.

Steve

So.... where is or what is this Sweetwater coupon code (for Eco)?

Not sure about sweetwater but audiomidi are giving away $15 on your first order on their new site. Code AM15.

Got it audiomid.com for $14. With tax for $15.23.

Now when they have an upgrade sale for $50 to full BFD I'm in.


You can never have too many drums ya know.

Yes I've started frequenting this group too for much the same reasons.
Also it's a good way to keep in touch with what's new in the world of audio-tech since I gave up buying computer music and sound on sound :)

Steve

Oh I do and I a big fan of his music too.
But Eco still beats EZdrummer pants down and that's all there is to it :))
 
Really glad you got Eco at that price. I paid something like $79 for it  about 5 months ago but that was to get the free expansion packs that came with the deal.

Steve

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Got it audiomid.com for $14. With tax for $15.23.

Now when they have an upgrade sale for $50 to full BFD I'm in.


You can never have too many drums ya know.

Haha! I read your post the first time, got completely excited about a BFD upgrade for $50 and went to their site (even though I bought BFD Eco last year when it was on sale for $99)!  Then I went back and re-read your post! Awww. 

As far as the the debate over ezDrummer or BFD Eco, they sound very different to my ears and both are very good products, well worth buying. BFD Eco kits lack a snare with a ring to it while ezDrummer has a snare with a nice ring. At 29 bucks each, unless you're really broke, it's a no-brainer to pick up both, imo. If you don't, come January, when both sales are over and each product is selling for more than 3x that amount once again, you'll likely be kicking yourself. 

This is an incredible time to buy a drum VST. I bought both (I started with ezDrummer and upgraded to Superior Drummer) at more than 3x than the current deals, however, I'm still very happy to see these libraries at such affordable prices so that more people can enjoy them. That's great, imo. Consequently, I have no remorse for paying more, as I'm happy to support the devs and whether it's ToonTrack or fxPansion and I hope both do very, very well. These are top notch drum VSTs/developers and believe it's impossible to make a bad choice at these prices.  (Okay, I think only buying one, if you can afford both, is a bad choice.)

- Peter

OK, now I am confusedI have several questions. Is BFD ECO 15+ bucks at Audiomidi? Is there a coupon, if so where is it? (I will check this thread again and sign in at AM to see if a code is offered). 
I probably don't need both ECO and EZD, I have EZD lite and am leaning toward SW and EZD but really I want the one that is easiest to use. I am not really interested in which one has the most tweaks because I don't want to do a bunch of drum tweaking. If I record something good enough to need better drums I will get a real drummer to help me out... so I want easiest, less potential hiccups and the least learning curve. Still, if I can get ECO for 15 bucks and EZD for 29 bucks, I will get both... that, IMO, is a no brainer.

One other thing I noticed that on Audiomidi it is clear that ECO is 32 bit, SW nor Toontrack seem to mention if EZD is 32 bit or 64 bit or if there is an option... is 64bit an option with EXDrummer?

I almost didn't come online today... I am glad I did!

Julien 

AM15

 
Thanks!
 
Julien