Love your piano playing,  to me it did get buried in the mix at times.
Great song writing,  :)

Tim

Hi Janet :-) Sweet song and very nice vocals. Drums aren't too loud just too bright, and the vocals could use some compression, delay and reverb (and maybe volume?). When I mix I'll take a commercially recorded song that I want my mix too sound like and A/B with my mix process until I have a reasonably good "match" and of course fine tune it for it's own flavor as a final step.

Hey there from Martin & Nancy. Nice praise and worship song and theme being explored is a great truth that never gets old. Our God is a big God - we should 'write Him' that way. I have to go with Paulo - the singer does sound like she's in another room. Nancy noted that there's no bass presence and we both thought that the drums seemed very awkward, especially the hi-hat. There needs to be more warmth, via EQ balancing and reverb for sure. Guitar and piano played well and fits well together. Nancy and I just didn't take to the voice - maybe it's the recording/mixing context, but maybe it was a bit too focused on the upper register to sound entirely comfortable for the singer. Not saying she 'doesn't hit the notes', but when I think vocals I've done from years back on certain tunes, I cringe knowing that if I'd sung it down lower, it would have captured more warmth. Personally a scaled down, simplified version - piano, guitar voice might work better. Maybe drop the key 1 1/2 notches too and add some stereo spread via reverb, delay or stereo simulators. Best to you from us both! Martin & Nancy

Hi Janet - this is really nice - love it.

Hi Janet,

Lovely to hear you doing the do again.

There's enough wisdom contained in the thread already, I agree with Mark that dropping the key a bit may help the singer and the congregation sing along.  It's a lovely tune and well put together, I'm not sure the drums are too loud or whether its because the melodic content is just seeming a bit buried.

The drums are nicely programmed for sure but a little more cohesion on the drum sounds is in order maybe treat the kit as a sub-mix on its own to make it a more unified entity and the bring the bass in to give some oomph (technical speak) to emphasise the rhythmic loveliness of that 6/8 feel.  Once you've got that working give the melodic stuff pride of place and work the vocals in as you go.

As I say though it's a lovely tune and it makes me want to join in even though my dulcet corncrake voice would be unlikely to get up there...

Great job so far.  And I know you'll nail this one in the end.

Kinda' late getting onto this..  I'm on the road and only have laptop speakers to listen to so I could really be off base here.
 
I don't think that the drums are too loud, but I think that they overwhelm the song at points and get really carried away.  I think this is a case where less is more and you have way too much.  I don't think that the complex parts of the drum patterns add to the song.  At least, that is the effect I get on crummy built-in pezio 'speakers' on a laptop.  It may sound great on a good set of monitors.
 
It is really hard for me to be critical here.  You were at the top of my winter play list.
 
Glen
 
 
 

After a long, detailed answer, including the one that somehow didn't get posted a few days ago...the one I just took 1/2 hour to type didn't get posted either. :(   I don't have the heart to start over again right now.  For now please suffice it to say, thank you very, very much to every single one of you.  I have incorporated most of your ideas.  The new mix still needs some work, though, so I didn't bother posting a remix.  Hopefully between a couple of us we'll be able to get this one in shape.  


Thanks once again...I'll be back.


Glen...you made my day. Thank you.  

As usual I'm late to the party, but I'm glad I didn't miss this one.  Excellent song and well performed too all around.  After reading some of the mix comments, I don't think you need me for that... you've got some great advice there already.

I really enjoyed the song.  Great job by all.

OK, I'll try a real thank you again.  (and maybe save as I go).

Jan - thank you!
Jimmy S - Thank you!  What do you mean by PC2A?
Reece, thanks for the detailed ideas.
Rik, thank you!
S. Alf - thanks so much.  I took into account your ideas about the drums.  (haven't posted a new version yet though....still needs work.) 
John, thanks very much!  Yeah, Dulcie said the top notes are just where her voice cracks, unfortunately.  Usually she can easily sing higher than this but hasn't practiced as much lately. She still beats me by a mile. Bob, thank you!
Gary, thanks so much.  The piano was inspired by Edwin Fawcett.  Mark played guitar for him and posted the song here awhile ago.  I love his style, so listened to it several times before playing this.  :)
Thanks Tim.  See the note to Gary about the piano playing. :)  And yes, it's buried.  Hopefully that will get sorted out before long.  :) 
Thanks very much, Garry! Yes, I love to hear her sing.  :) 
Thanks very much, Tony.  I tried your ideas on her track and that helped a lot.  Still working on the mix, so I won't bother posting every little change.  
Paulo, thank you.  Thanks to you, I realized I had somehow turned off the reverb on the reverb bus.  :(  I think it's better now, although she still needs more reverb.  Should I put reverb on the vocal track AND the reverb bus?  
Thanks very much for stopping by Martin (& Nancy).  Those ideas help a lot.  I really appreciate it.  I'll keep working on it! 
Thanks Frank.  :) Yeah, I knew Herb would do great on this, as always.  
Thank you, Mark and James and Kenny!  I appreciate your comments!
Thanks again Glen.  I'm workin' on those drums. :)
Thank you, Phil.  You're not late.  I haven't even posted a remix yet!  :)  Thanks so much for stopping by. Glad you liked it.  
Thanks for stopping by, Ed.  Actually I Melodyned her voice for those places she was just a tiny bit off, so I'm not sure where she'd be off.  I'll listen again.  I worked on compressing the bass so hopefully that will take care of that too.  Not sure how to get the voice wetter....I'll try reverb on the track AND on the reverb bus.  

Nicely done Janet. You have some nice progressions. You piano playing is as usual, stellar.

Well, don't take anything I say too seriously. I'm not as consistent as I thought I use to be due to some medical problems that won't go away anytime soon. I am not actually getting anything I am doing quite correct either, just perhaps good enough for the time I want to spend on it (I get tired also which interferes -  getting older).

So, in the end it is up to how you think it sounds in the end, but perhaps a bit more reverb on her vocal, otherwise I think it is better overall and sounds okay.  Oh, ya, also perhaps the bass guitar could be just a bit louder also but that also could be differences in speakers also. But sounds better overall.
 

Sorry Jimmy. I forgot to put it on RN. It's only on SoundClick so far.

Janet, this is definitely getting better each time I hear it.  I listened to the SC version, but I didn't hear the reverb on the vocal.  My only suggestion for this piece concerns the drums.  I think they're a little busy for this type of song.  It's not that they're too loud, but there are so many fills going on that it distracts a little from the vocal.  Other than that, you're on the right track.

Hi Janet
Wonderful piece/performance!  Love the flow of the lyrics.  If I had to nit the mix.  The vocals are a bit dry to my liking and the piano does get lost at times.  This has to be one of my top favs from you.   KUDOS LADIES!

Kev

I haven't been to church in years but for me this sounded very good , clean sounding mix and as always your skills on the piano are very good !

Nice one Janet I liked it for this type of music !
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