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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:14:41
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bapu
Jonbouy
bapu
I'm finally more than half the man beagle Beagle is.
Not that it matters.
(or does it?)
I'm surprised you even noticed.
It's only because I did not have Alembic in my hands so I was able to get online.
I'll bet Carissa doesn't have an Alembic. There, I said it. A clear case of post bass envy  Edited, as requested, I have withdrawn my offensive er...... thingy
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:19:05
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BTW... how could this question be missed????
Does someone know the answer???
What exactly is "a round corner"?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:21:45
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noldar12
What exactly is "a round corner"? Something a Yorkshireman says when he is giving directions.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:21:57
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What exactly is "a round corner"?
It is around UK£2.83 Or in Bapu Yap American money - $29,303,935.82
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:22:44
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:23:18
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Jonbouy
noldar12
What exactly is "a round corner"?
Something a Yorkshireman says when he is giving directions.
Surely that's "around t'corner" 
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:25:12
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SteveStrummerUK
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What exactly is "a round corner"?
Something a Yorkshireman says when he is giving directions.
Surely that's "around t'corner"
Nah, it would be like. "Tek care, lambs ont road a round corner."
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 15:47:26
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 16:00:49
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shhucao wwoorc aoacwo rcwooaoorcwa.
ah acrahowo rhwowowh orwhooohwh rawhwa rawhcohworcwowa aooo ohooooorahwowo cahwhoawo rarhoohuao 1978.
ah ohrac raancoo oaraananwowa aoacwo acoowhworo scoowhcaoworc rhro scro caowoak warahurracaoworc.
ohacwowh ah ohrac ra warchuscscworc ah rawhcohworcwowa aooo rawhahscraan ahww rooohu oaoohuanwa rrwoao scro raaoaowowhaoahoowh.
aoachuc rhwoahwhrr orwhooohwh rac ra wwhurcrcro rawhahscraan ahc whooao whwooh rawhwa rhwocahwawoc ah anahorwo rhwoahwhrr ra ohooooorahwowo.
I'm glad you cleared that up.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 16:02:45
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Wookiee minces no words, that's for sure.
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Re:The demeanour here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 16:05:13
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I'm glad you cleared that up. No need for ambiguity eh Jon?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 16:07:02
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HIGH POST COUNT VS JOIN DATE Yes some of US joined this little merry place before a lot of you young whipper snappers , Some as I do don't have a high post count because we lurked and read just didn't have any valid useful information to add at those times some, like me, are making up for that now  edit :speullin errours
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 17:59:27
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Firstly, I don't want this to appear like I'm trying to police this forum;
What I'm about to say is meant in a respectful manner;
on this thread, post 271 uses a word that doesn't offend me, but I'm sure it offends some members; There are women on this forum, maybe even some pre-adults; He is a respected member with thousands of posts.
(probably a very nice guy)
Ok, my question.
Would a first time poster be able to use that word without some back lash?
I tend to think not; I could offer more examples of high posters that break the forum rules over and over (and nothing is done), but I'll stop here.
and if my assumption is correct then there is a sort of 'arrogance', and 'power' that goes along with a high post count.
(please do not take 'arrogance' and 'power' in the strictest sense of the words)
Now I could very well be misreading words; people have misunderstood my posts more than once, but I sense a sort of superiority with some high posters; if it was just me I would not say anything; but numerous people have stated the same thing and 'Clarissa' again with the original post.
I'm not talking about Bitflipper, Beagle, AT, Bapu, Billy (who left by the way because of where this forum is going) and the other well meaning, helpful, courteous dudes that have helped me and many others.
Every poster shares some responsibility for the direction this forum is going.
The more posts you have, the more impact you have on this forum.
and the more responsibility you have.
Peace.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 18:18:49
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tom1
Firstly, I don't want this to appear like I'm trying to police this forum;
What I'm about to say is meant in a respectful manner;
on this thread, post 271 uses a word that doesn't offend me, but I'm sure it offends some members; There are women on this forum, maybe even some pre-adults; He is a respected member with thousands of posts.
(probably a very nice guy)
Ok, my question.
Would a first time poster be able to use that word without some back lash?
I tend to think not; I could offer more examples of high posters that break the forum rules over and over (and nothing is done), but I'll stop here.
and if my assumption is correct then there is a sort of 'arrogance', and 'power' that goes along with a high post count.
(please do not take 'arrogance' and 'power' in the strictest sense of the words)
Now I could very well be misreading words; people have misunderstood my posts more than once, but I sense a sort of superiority with some high posters; if it was just me I would not say anything; but numerous people have stated the same thing and 'Clarissa' again with the original post.
I'm not talking about Bitflipper, Beagle, AT, Bapu, Billy (who left by the way because of where this forum is going) and the other well meaning, helpful, courteous dudes that have helped me and many others.
Every poster shares some responsibility for the direction this forum is going.
The more posts you have, the more impact you have on this forum.
and the more responsibility you have.
Peace.
tom i only read your first paragraph and stopped there.please.do yourself a favor.your a new member dont do this.you and this other forum member have been having words to each other and now it seems like your coming up with this?and post count has never had a thing to do with anything here.what you may be refering to as a bully type image because of post count has nothing to with it.look at one member who has over 30,000 posts..hes one of the nicest guys youll ever meet and will help anyone.the coffe house is also a different kind of place where as the x1 forums are more serios and more arguments.just let this go man.it will blow over.you seem like a nice enough guy.but dont take things to serious here..it is the coffee house..i learned a lesson like you once in here.i seen something that offended me so i said something about it...you know what as time went on..i regeted saying that..and i sent that user a private message and he was a gentleman about it.just learn to have a good time in here.remember when its time to ask for help you want those guys with the high post counts to come to you aid.so respect them.there not throwing their weight aroung.there throwing their knoweledge around.in the case of carrisa i think johnbouy knows all to well and has seen this before where a user with 6 posts comes in and throws a grenade in here and ruins things for a couple days.let it blow over man..good luck.peace. p.s...post 271 doesnt bother me at all..its funny..have a laugh once in awhile..dont take this place to seriously..except "A minor"..that is serious....lol
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 18:28:41
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tom1
Firstly, I don't want this to appear like I'm trying to police this forum;
What I'm about to say is meant in a respectful manner;
on this thread, post 271 uses a word that doesn't offend me, but I'm sure it offends some members; There are women on this forum, maybe even some pre-adults; He is a respected member with thousands of posts.
(probably a very nice guy)
Ok, my question.
Would a first time poster be able to use that word without some back lash?
I tend to think not; I could offer more examples of high posters that break the forum rules over and over (and nothing is done), but I'll stop here.
I agree with you (partially) here. He should not be using that word in this forum and it is against the TOS to be using offensive wording. I know that when asked, Steve would remove any offensive langague in the past. That has nothing to do with how many posts he has. I have asked him and others to remove offensive posts before. regardless of their post count. I still don't see what relevance his post count has to do with whether or not he should not be posting offensively. he has not "gotten away with it" because he has a high post count. he has simply not been called on it before you just did. that doesn't mean it wouldn't have happened without your prompting.
and if my assumption is correct then there is a sort of 'arrogance', and 'power' that goes along with a high post count.
(please do not take 'arrogance' and 'power' in the strictest sense of the words)
that could be true for some people but not all. what I take offense with is the broad brush strokes of your generalizations.
Now I could very well be misreading words; people have misunderstood my posts more than once, but I sense a sort of superiority with some high posters; if it was just me I would not say anything; but numerous people have stated the same thing and 'Clarissa' again with the original post.
I'm not talking about Bitflipper, Beagle, AT, Bapu, Billy (who left by the way because of where this forum is going) and the other well meaning, helpful, courteous dudes that have helped me and many others.
Every poster shares some responsibility for the direction this forum is going.
now you've removed some of the high post count people making exceptions of a few. but I submit that StevestrummerUK has helped a LOT of people even if you haven't seen it. There are others on the top 20 list who have done the same - just because you don't see them helping doesn't mean they don't. you'd have to research each of their posts and correlate "helpful" vs. "not helpful" (or better "trying to help" and "not trying to help") because you don't see the big picture of each of their posts. if you're not on the forum every day (which I do not believe that you are, but I will stand corrected if you are on the forums without posting) and if you don't visit all of the subforums then you don't see what the high count people are doing and therefore your assumptions are flawed.
The more posts you have, the more impact you have on this forum.
and the more responsibility you have.
Peace.
I completely agree with that statement. With the one exception that you've pointed out above, however (regarding post #271) I don't see any examples of those with high post counts not following that practice. and I have to say that ONE example listed above does not make a trend. everyone makes mistakes! I have posted things that I have regretted. sometimes even things that have violated the TOS. and when I get called on it I apologize and remove it. if I make a mistake that doesn't mean I'm irresponsible with my posts. it means I'm human and have to be forgiven sometimes.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 18:47:23
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mmmmmm....what is all this stuff about high post counts anyways?
I think that it is more involved than just high post counts...a lot of my posts, for example, are down here...I just use this forum to glean info from it in terms of what people have done and are doing with their songs and such...
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 18:51:11
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I'm not talking about Bitflipper, Beagle, AT, Bapu, Billy (who left by the way because of where this forum is going) and the other well meaning, helpful, courteous dudes that have helped me and many others.
Every poster shares some responsibility for the direction this forum is going. It's a real shame about Billy, he's been around much longer than I have, and I'd take much more notice of what he says than anything Cakewalk marketing could conjure up. He's had a hard time recently because he carefully chronicled the difficulties he's been having with X1 since it was released and despite the issues that have made X1 unusable for him he's been pretty much hounded out by those that consider it heresy to do anything but bow before Cakewalk. From what I gathered he quit because he still can't use X1b how he'd like and needed a break from trying to get it to do what he wanted. He gave it a good 4 months of trying though. Like me he is a true Sonar advocate but this release had made that position untenable. Carissa spoke about posters affecting the products quality in the short, mid and long term and to my mind it's those doing the work Billy has been doing and not the happy thread crew that will affect the product for the better. Cakewalk I feel have been guilty of neglecting the user base here by not acknowledging many of the real difficulties that clearly exist in X1 which has in my view led to much of the frustration and angst that is visibly more prevalent than it has been during previous releases. Slighting particular members demeanour is not helpful in the current climate here because I know the majority of longer standing members and regular users all want the same thing, to be making music with the kick-ass DAW we all know from previous versions that Sonar can be. It woulld have been difficult for many making the change to X1 anyway but you can't blame the users for the fact that the initial release was badly flawed by anybody's standards of a saleable product. There's a factor which boiled over here too in that many bugs have persisted through various versions which has added to the the tinder box which was bound to flare up when anything but a predominantly stable new version turned up. Anyways FWIW that's my take on the OP. It's the quality of the product that will ultimately affect the short, mid and long term viability of the product, not the 'Game Changer' catch phrases hurled at us by any marketing dept or any whining from someone like me who spends far too much time here. Ironically X1 has made me look at alternatives which is something I wouldn't have entertained this time last year.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 19:05:20
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Chuckebaby:
tom i only read your first paragraph and stopped there.
thanks chuck for (at least) reading the first paragraph :)
I was planning to make a novel out of it but you have dissuaded me sir.
it wasn't meant to be as serious as it may have come across.
Beagle:
I'm sure Steve is a very nice guy and I'm sure he's helped a lot of people;
I meant no disrespect to him in the slightest.
and the 'word' in question does not bother me at all; In fact I'm quite fond of mine.
a lot more so in my younger days :)
I guess I should have worded it differently: (I'll give it another try)
Would a high poster more likely get away with an offensive post?
I say probably yes.
Peace.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 19:22:51
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tom1
Chuckebaby:
tom i only read your first paragraph and stopped there.
thanks chuck for (at least) reading the first paragraph :)
I was planning to make a novel out of it but you have dissuaded me sir.
it wasn't meant to be as serious as it may have come across.
Beagle:
I'm sure Steve is a very nice guy and I'm sure he's helped a lot of people;
I meant no disrespect to him in the slightest.
and the 'word' in question does not bother me at all; In fact I'm quite fond of mine.
a lot more so in my younger days :)
I guess I should have worded it differently: (I'll give it another try)
Would a high poster more likely get away with an offensive post?
I say probably yes.
Peace.
youd be surprised tom..ive seem them ban two people in last few months with very high post counts. and yet ive seen people come in here with 30 posts saying things that are unbelivable and cake gives them the second,third chance..thats the thing i admire about cakes forum..its never a case of "we didnt warn you"they always let you know..this wont be tolerated.there very forgiving and dont pregeduce.thats what makes it fair.and they are fair. glad you lightened up a bit tom..rock on bro. :)
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 19:46:34
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Tom, as requested, I've pulled out my offensive p***s. But in the spirit of fairness, I have to say, with no hint of sarcasm, that if that word offends you (or anyone else, any age or gender), you have an awful lot of " not" forum policing to be getting on with 'upstairs'. I could fully understand your concern had I used it simply for rudeness/shock value, but I think we're all aware of the phrase " P***s Envy" when euphemistically applied, for example, to comparing one's car to another's. That was how it was meant. Anyway, I guess that now I'll have to start stalking you around the forums - not just to make certain that you take every chance to point out any and all offending posts to their authors, but also to make sure you don't say anything out of line, or even a little risqué, yourself I won't use the word "hypocrisy" here - no doubt your future impeccable conduct and ongoing censorial rampage will ensure that I don't have to Steve
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 20:00:16
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Would a high poster more likely get away with an offensive post? I say probably yes. The above quote laughable ? I say defininitly yes
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 20:13:20
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tom1
There are women on this forum,
Have you heard Katie^2 talk? She's like a drunken sailor of shore leave after 3 months at sea. Or...... She just irritated. Not sure which it is.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/01 20:23:28
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bapu
tom1
There are women on this forum,
Have you heard Katie^2 talk? She's like a drunken sailor of shore leave after 3 months at sea.
Or......
She just irritated. Not sure which it is.
Then there's Karyn. Man, she's even capable of shooting my mouth off...   And I'm not going anywhere near Janet and her chain saw.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 00:27:54
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Ok... it's time for something completely different. I was warned off of cat pictures, so let's go with something nearer and dearer to the heart of this forum:  There. Now, everybody get along, ok?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 04:52:49
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Russell.Whaley
Ok... it's time for something completely different.
I was warned off of cat pictures, so let's go with something nearer and dearer to the heart of this forum:
There. Now, everybody get along, ok?
So where are we now? Posts envy? (Or do I need to call it "p***s envy" instead?)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 06:12:21
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The posts i've read reminded me of our dear CJay. He hit hard, he was straight forward, but in my early days, he helped me work things out, military style. "What do you mean? Creative SB is ****, get a decent interface! And for that simple editing, you might want to RTFM" (Well i may have overdone the posts, but i had quite the same "hurt" value when i read it) I think i have been told RTFM for about 5 times, until i told them that my manual was washed away by a flood that went inside our house (I saved up my dad's "The Cure" LPs above all.) High post count, low post count, on my experience, it didn't matter. Bitflipper was my first close friend here, then came SpaceDuck, then came Bapu and the CH crew. I have not read the posts that Carissa have may felt being offensive. I don't roam upstairs, even my tech support problems are posted on the CH. But i know, there ARE some people upstairs that may be offensive, defensive or just rude. Whether it be siding with Sonar or not, we know there are people upstairs that are unkind, sometimes making me not want to post there anymore. Maybe that was what Carissa was saying. I also was once sad about the attitudes of some people upstairs (Note, there are unkind users who have low post counts, just to point out), that's why i went down, and that's where i grew, downstairs, and i'm happy with it. I just disagree with the experts thingy and the forum having cliques. Even as a new user i have never been mobbed by a group of unkind people which were in one alliance. It's too much of a generalization. And about the experts: Most of the experts here are kind. And i don't think experts would be afraid to uphold their expertise to a less-skilled poster. The downstairs community itself is more than enough to address all help in all topics. It also lets me be free in non-Sonar things, heck i even asked something about Cubase, and i openly said that i have switch to CB5. Yeah maybe i ranted once about Sonar not working for me lately, but that's me, it just couldn't work for me. About post-count to amount of seriousness, i just want to explain (I'm too lazy to search who posted that statement.) The reason why the first comments were serious, were because it was still upstairs. ANYTHING that gets redirected to CH gets OT and silly, and it was just coincidences that the ones who posted upstairs had low post counts, and the ones here had high post counts. Okay? 
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 06:58:03
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feigh on no cat pix.... 
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 06:59:43
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I did, however, fall across this... 
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/04/02 07:54:10
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Fire away at this post, weak ones, but know for certain that your demeanor repels valuable people from contributing to this forum, and thusly hurts the product and its user-base in the short, mid and long run. Carissa It seems you're just as guilty of the same behavior that you admonish Carissa.
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