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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 16:40:17
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Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 16:43:41
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craigb No comment. Is saying "no comment" really "no comment"? I mean, you're saying "my thought is I have no thought". Man I just irrigated irritated freaked myself out.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 16:49:49
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Carissa I would like to introduce myself.... I am the angryx1user!! Grrrrrr I have on my game face when I post upstairs...Cuz I have x1 and I am angry grrrrrrrrrr
I Love sonar x1 and I am angry! I am so angry at x1 I will use it and complain every day! I have on my game face! Grrrrrr.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 16:50:51
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bapu Man I just irrigated irritated freaked myself out. Vividly I might add!
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 16:51:32
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I'll vividly add 1 to my post count.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 17:26:13
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bapu I'm just wondering, did any of you guys hurt yourselves climbing over each other to light Carissa's cigarette? Ed, It's a scientific fact that members of the Coffee House cannot discern the difference between a Sports Bra and a Cricket Box. Therefore clamouring to light a cigarette on account of a forum avatar and nickname is not recommended. Besides it isn't wise to have a naked flame around when the CHB's undershreddies are likely to be present in the same thread. (or is it?)
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 17:28:33
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Excellent points all JB! BTW, did you HD ever show up?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 17:30:28
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Carissa Swenson I don't post here much, but now and then I keep an eye on things that are Sonar because many of my students and associates use home-level DAW products and the field can be interesting. I can't proportion the array of attitudes and stances seen at a web forum with any accuracy, but I can easily talk about my impressions and feelings about a site, and reflect on how those affect my willingness to contribute and be of value. Indeed, the highest value of a forum such as this is the exchange of technical details on a technical product which has limited realtime support (any product, really, has vendor limitations in terms of support coverage and response). When the nature of a forum becomes clique-and-buddy oriented, abusive and disrespectful as this forum has, then all of you have a real problem to deal with, as the very value of the place degrades due to many experts and users not even wanting to log in and participate. It's a quantity that you'll never be able to number, because no-shows can't be counted, but what can be counted is the time it takes to get a real solution to an issue. I see petty name-calling, cheap derogation of others, snide back-handed sniping at those who don't carry the flag for this troubled X1 product, and in general a thick, repulsive buddy system of snobbery and rejection of others that makes this place similar to standing in the playground area of a juvenile detention center. Of course, I'm not talking about many, many of the kind, productive contributors here, and I'm sure they aren't offended. I'm talking to the armchair brave who snip and quip at others whom they would well not treat in such a manner if personally present. I'm talking about folks who call another a "Phuckwad", as I just read minutes ago from an individual who also blindly asserted that an OP had pirated expensive software. I'm talking about the people who deride others and showboat verbally for their buds on the forum at the expense of the comfort of a poster (and truly at the expense of their own dignity and this forum's). Fire away at this post, weak ones, but know for certain that your demeanor repels valuable people from contributing to this forum, and thusly hurts the product and its user-base in the short, mid and long run. Carissa WHAT?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 17:32:05
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bapu BTW, did you HD ever show up? Yup, it's here.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 17:33:33
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Jonbouy bapu BTW, did you HD ever show up? Yup, it's here. Cool beans.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 18:20:06
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bapu I'm just wondering, did any of you guys hurt yourselves climbing over each other to light Carissa's cigarette? Of course not. Being a somewhat older and wiser aficionado of the fairer side of the species, I opted for efficiency: while all of the other guys were dogpiling over there, I just walked around the melee and inquired if the lady needed anything. (Then, also being a somewhat married, older and wiser guy, I moved on... )
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 18:21:46
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Russell.Whaley bapu I'm just wondering, did any of you guys hurt yourselves climbing over each other to light Carissa's cigarette? Of course not. Being a somewhat older and wiser aficionado of the fairer side of the species, I opted for efficiency: while all of the other guys were dogpiling over there, I just walked around the melee and inquired if the lady needed anything. (Then, also being a somewhat married, older and wiser guy, I moved on... )
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 20:19:53
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Jonbouy bapu BTW, did you HD ever show up? Yup, it's here. Hence the
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/30 23:34:47
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SSSHHHHH!!! don't you guys realize that you've strayed way too far off topic????!!!!??? the ON TOPIC POLICE will be here any minute telling you that you can't stray off topic even when it's moved to the coffee house!!! sheesh.....you people never learn!
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 03:23:16
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Good point Beagle! Where were we anyway? Oh well, ever notice that there are times with horizontal stripes don't help? Or as my UK friend used to say "You want bars not hoops."
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 05:34:11
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Hi all, To address a couple of the consistent themes a bit .... I am aware of parallels between microcosms and the greater population, but I don't tie my thinking to correlations so much. I feel that smaller social entities take on idiosyncrasies that do not mimic the whole, at times. I am a member of fora for ProTools and two other DAWs, and they are nothing like the forum in which I originally posted this. There seem to be very quirky things going on. I would say that each of us can decide whether a little spot like this is a good place to chat without contriving an imperative to "deal with it" based on social analogy. In other words, folks should face up to courtesy, kindness and community here because it ISN'T the back alley of an urban jungle. For those who asked, I am a music instructor, specializing in composition and arrangement. We use ProTools in the class and studio, but most of the students can't or don't choose to afford such and the related hardware, so they use what they choose and I hear about it. I use Sonar 8.5.3 so far, about 1/3 of the time that I am doing personal projects. I got a dry private message from one of the moderators here, Brandon, yesterday, questioning my address and such via, I'm assuming, his ability to see my IP address when I post. I spend about 1/3 of my time in America (Ohio), and indeed one of the reasons that I wrote this post was related to my experiences in bouncing between my homes. Having my whereabouts/origins questioned was just another brick in that pile, if you know what I mean. Next month I can post from Sweden or one of the other countries in which I travel and work and then the diligent moderators can get back to Sonar questions and technical support -- or at least addressing the content of a post instead of policing the messenger. I WILL post here more, for those of you who have seen that as prudent and worthwhile.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 06:13:40
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In other words, folks should face up to courtesy, kindness and community here because it ISN'T the back alley of an urban jungle. +1 Common courtesy is providing a handful of posts yet being highly critical of the forums demeanour? May I suggest climbing off your high horse and joining in and rather than generalizing on the whole, commenting on specifics. Unless of course it is your aim to lead us all into the greater civil utopia our current ignorance blinds us too. I'm assuming you can see things other than the brilliance of your own reflection when I say welcome to the Coffee House.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/03/31 06:17:30
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 06:19:55
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Carissa Swenson I got a dry private message from one of the moderators here, Brandon, yesterday, questioning my address and such via, I'm assuming, his ability to see my IP address when I post. I spend about 1/3 of my time in America (Ohio), and indeed one of the reasons that I wrote this post was related to my experiences in bouncing between my homes. Having my whereabouts/origins questioned was just another brick in that pile, if you know what I mean. Next month I can post from Sweden or one of the other countries in which I travel and work and then the diligent moderators can get back to Sonar questions and technical support -- or at least addressing the content of a post instead of policing the messenger. Now now. You registered with a US based IP address and a US based email address with a male's name. I think it's pretty easy to understand why it might beg question. I wasn't rude or accusatory and simply stated that your registration didn't match your location. If you found my simple inquiry offensive for some reason then I apologize.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 06:38:43
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] You registered with a US based IP address and a US based email address with a male's name. Yikes, Carissa is a 300lb truck driver after all JB, you might have hit a raw nerve when you mentioned the sports bra And surely a 300lb truck is of no use to anyone
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 06:47:25
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I think at this point we would all like to see Obama's Trump's Bapu's Carissa's birth certificate.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 07:24:47
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They were/was(?) a Japanese sumo wrestler!!!
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 07:41:08
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] Now now. You registered with a US based IP address and a US based email address with a male's name. I think it's pretty easy to understand why it might beg question. I wasn't rude or accusatory and simply stated that your registration didn't match your location. If you found my simple inquiry offensive for some reason then I apologize. Uh oh. Now look what you did. You caused Bradon to use the dreaded "Now Now". Luckily, for us all, he has exceptional self-restraint. Dear (insert gender appropriate title )Swenson, I suggest you not tempt fate - he has similar and more forceful words at his disposal.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 08:35:06
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Katie_Katie Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] Now now. You registered with a US based IP address and a US based email address with a male's name. I think it's pretty easy to understand why it might beg question. I wasn't rude or accusatory and simply stated that your registration didn't match your location. If you found my simple inquiry offensive for some reason then I apologize. Uh oh. Now look what you did. You caused Bradon to use the dreaded "Now Now". Luckily, for us all, he has exceptional self-restraint. Dear (insert gender appropriate title )Swenson, I suggest you not tempt fate - he has similar and more forceful words at his disposal. Great. It turns out "Carrissa" is the dreaded "Sonar Stalker". (S)he's obviously trolling here for some unsuspecting tech geek\Coffee House Band member from which to extract elements of musical genious and\or ways to make V-Vocal do that "Sher" thing.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 08:41:55
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Poco Katie_Katie Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] Now now. You registered with a US based IP address and a US based email address with a male's name. I think it's pretty easy to understand why it might beg question. I wasn't rude or accusatory and simply stated that your registration didn't match your location. If you found my simple inquiry offensive for some reason then I apologize. Uh oh. Now look what you did. You caused Bradon to use the dreaded "Now Now". Luckily, for us all, he has exceptional self-restraint. Dear (insert gender appropriate title )Swenson, I suggest you not tempt fate - he has similar and more forceful words at his disposal. Great. It turns out "Carrissa" is the dreaded "Sonar Stalker". (S)he's obviously trolling here for some unsuspecting tech geek\Coffee House Band member from which to extract elements of musical genious and\or ways to make V-Vocal do that "Sher" thing. Or she knows what Am really sounds like and is on a mission to stop the madness that the CHB's bass player is doing to run the great name of Am into the mud. In other words, he/she's here to stop Bapu from diminishing the Am.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 08:58:16
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In other words, he/she's here to stop Bapu from diminishing the Am.  PLEASE don't do that to me while I'm at work, people are staring...
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 09:03:17
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Carissa Swenson Hi all, To address a couple of the consistent themes a bit .... I am aware of parallels between microcosms and the greater population, but I don't tie my thinking to correlations so much. I feel that smaller social entities take on idiosyncrasies that do not mimic the whole, at times. I am a member of fora for ProTools and two other DAWs, and they are nothing like the forum in which I originally posted this. There seem to be very quirky things going on. I would say that each of us can decide whether a little spot like this is a good place to chat without contriving an imperative to "deal with it" based on social analogy. In other words, folks should face up to courtesy, kindness and community here because it ISN'T the back alley of an urban jungle. For those who asked, I am a music instructor, specializing in composition and arrangement. We use ProTools in the class and studio, but most of the students can't or don't choose to afford such and the related hardware, so they use what they choose and I hear about it. I use Sonar 8.5.3 so far, about 1/3 of the time that I am doing personal projects. I got a dry private message from one of the moderators here, Brandon, yesterday, questioning my address and such via, I'm assuming, his ability to see my IP address when I post. I spend about 1/3 of my time in America (Ohio), and indeed one of the reasons that I wrote this post was related to my experiences in bouncing between my homes. Having my whereabouts/origins questioned was just another brick in that pile, if you know what I mean. Next month I can post from Sweden or one of the other countries in which I travel and work and then the diligent moderators can get back to Sonar questions and technical support -- or at least addressing the content of a post instead of policing the messenger. I WILL post here more, for those of you who have seen that as prudent and worthwhile. ya this is all making sence now..once i read pro tools i just stopped reading.okay.all done
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 09:07:28
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Jonbouy In other words, folks should face up to courtesy, kindness and community here because it ISN'T the back alley of an urban jungle. +1 Common courtesy is providing a handful of posts yet being highly critical of the forums demeanour? May I suggest climbing off your high horse and joining in and rather than generalizing on the whole, commenting on specifics. Unless of course it is your aim to lead us all into the greater civil utopia our current ignorance blinds us too. I'm assuming you can see things other than the brilliance of your own reflection when I say welcome to the Coffee House. You'd be on better footing explaining how the correlation of post-quantity to license-to-criticize works. Obviously, it doesn't. I've not posted here for the very reason that my current post defines. You see, it is comments just like yours that I address -- no matter what the literary level -- which come from spiteful minds with little apparent value other than to vent personal angst or harm another. Where does the sarcasm and scorn come from, and why does it belong here? For me to be on a "high horse" in your mind because I note, carefully and with qualification, that some are bitter is an inappropriate bit of slashing. Where does that come from in you, in particular? Why do you soil this place with such a dark tongue? How would your attitude improve this forum? Say in retort what clever things you may, but just for this one instance, address the core question. Why do you attack the person who doesn't attack you?
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 09:11:53
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... do you know who this reminds me of, and somebody is going to have to refresh my memory on this one ... that dude / chick that was a frequent poster in the CH that had a movie actress as his / her avitar. The individual left awhile back under cloudy circumstances after folks started questioning if he / she was a gender bender.
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 09:17:10
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quantumeffect ... do you know who this reminds me of, and somebody is going to have to refresh my memory on this one ... that dude / chick that was a frequent poster in the CH that had a movie actress as his / her avitar. The individual left awhile back under cloudy circumstances after folks started questioning if he / she was a gender bender. Jessie Sammler...
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Re:The demeanor here, and its consequences
2011/03/31 09:17:53
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Frankly, (not a reference to any particular 300lb truck driver who sometimes just wants to feel pretty) I'm far more concerned about this really tall horse. It's just standing here in the Coffee House, looking down on folks. The really alarming thing, though, is that it's facing away from my table and the tail is over my head. Location, location, location...
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