rbowser


There are these pointlessly large, ugly and inflexible graphics in the program 

Randy - I agree, (well not necessarly ugly but certainly pointless large) Its probably the main issue that stops me wanting to persevere with X1. But in no way do I agree with the OPs approach to the problem, he is being far too antagonistic.

love that idea Grif

i'm sorry my approach is not so positive because i can;t be positive after i work with Sonar..i just reflect what i feel . The Control Bar is just a simple example. And there are other major graphic flaws. Cakewalk needs to do something quickly RB and others seems to agree >> "The OP has a perfectly valid point. He's just reiterating what's been observed since day one of X1's release - There are these pointlessly large, ugly and inflexible graphics in the program which indeed look unprofessional, but worse, which don't fit on the majority of monitors. I have no idea to whom this particular development team was aiming their software, but it sure wasn't me or I dare say the majority of computer users. More power to the OP - he's simply observing and commenting on the obvious. RB " ..."I agree, (well not necessarly ugly but certainly pointless large) Its probably the main issue that stops me wanting to persevere with X1"......

Rimshot


Hi Mike,

There were several very helpful responses to our fowl-mouthed friend's questions.  Your's did not seem helpful at all.  Am I missing something here? 

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Does fowl-mouthed mean he has a beak?

And yes I think you are missing quite a bit too as when you read back the previous posts many were much less helpful than Mike's.  I'm wondering what bias switch you engaged when you viewed this thread.

Unlike you or I, he at least he posted his views on the control bar and not other posters.

Some of you are so bent on vengance because CW "did you wrong" that you will tolerate and condone such behavior.

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Does not mean we all have to accept someone being a nasty, hateful person.

Agreed.

Does fowl-mouthed mean he has a beak? And yes I think you are missing quite a bit too as when you read back the previous posts many were much less helpful than Mike's. I'm wondering what bias switch you engaged when you viewed this thread. Unlike you or I, he at least he posted his views on the control bar and not other posters.

Jonbouy

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Hi Mike,

There were several very helpful responses to our fowl-mouthed friend's questions.  Your's did not seem helpful at all.  Am I missing something here? 

Rimshot

Does fowl-mouthed mean he has a beak?

And yes I think you are missing quite a bit too as when you read back the previous posts many were much less helpful than Mike's.  I'm wondering what bias switch you engaged when you viewed this thread.

Unlike you or I, he at least he posted his views on the control bar and not other posters.

Jonbouy,
 
Sorry for the spelling and good point on others not posting comments.  However, when the op throws out insults and rude grammar to the forum, I don't see how that will help.  We all could rant in that way but we don't.  For a number of veteran users including yourself and Mike, I do really respect your help and guidance to many of us end-users.  However, when that help seems to be in no way helpful, I read it as such.  I apologize if my comment seemed bias to you and Mike.  I don't want to create an issue between us.
 
To the OP, you have stated your issues with the control bar and have received good response and suggestions on how to deal with it in its present state.  I too agree that it should be much more customizable.  However, that does not stop me from using the program productivly on one smaller LCD monitor.  You have been given a link for an enhancement request, been told about Ben Stat's customizable control bar, and also advised that there are many keyboard shortcuts that can be used to minimize the tools on the control bar.  IMO, that was good feedback from those that you criticize and insult.  You can learn alot from this group if you approach them professionally.
 
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radu789


tired of this crap ..

Me too. You are offically on my blocked member list.

Just to show that not all things are professional in design here... 

I love the large control bar.  It's a easy mouse target and looks very professional IMO.  I'm glad it can be easily hidden though.

I never thought of the control bar as something that was meant to house all modules at once. If I have 75% of them on, there's room aplenty on my monitor. As stated above, those that are completists have Ben's SonarPlus, which puts the kitchen sink back up front.

I've found the large size of the graphics (esp. track icons) to be a space-waster.  Clearly, they weren't designed to be scaled down, and I'd call that a design oversight. In today's world of style sheet control, making interfaces that scale to many sized monitors is a must.

I like the control bar just as it is. I'm sure there could be improvements.
Those who are asking for scalable buttons (really?) will probably get touch screen monitors, a new Windows 8 UI, and then ask for the opposite

Yup - perfect for touchscreens.... and as I say, I'm sure it can be improved.
I have to say this hasn't stood out much on my 42" monitor. I'll have a look next time I bring up X1.
 
> I understand you're suggesting that this is some sort of unimportant, whiny thing, but it isn't.

Errr..... if that was the case I would have said "this is some sort of unimportant, whiny thing" wouldn't I?

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I've found the large size of the graphics (esp. track icons) to be a space-waster.  Clearly, they weren't designed to be scaled down, and I'd call that a design oversight. In today's world of style sheet control, making interfaces that scale to many sized monitors is a must.

Oh. I thought you were going to say "In today's world where 90-95% of users have no more than 1080 vertical pixels available (and it seems the LCD industry wants it that way), vertical resolution is at an absolute premium, and therefore scalability is an absolute must-have for any DAW app"... But I agree with your point too.

--It hasn't crossed anyone's mind that X1 was preparing for touch screen - OK, well apparently it crossed a few people's minds. But that doesn't make any sense - put out software that only looks and acts as intended for a teeny percentage of users, in prep for a technology which already looks to be a Big Fail - and even if touch screens do eventually catch on, that would be so long from now that X1 would be ancient history. --- Nooo, don't think that explains the bizarro design concept here. RB