The new Control Bar seems very unprofessional and rigid in X1

May I humbly suggest putting in a feature request. That's far more likely to get something changed than saying something like fix it or I'm going somewhere else on a peer to peer forum.

lol you dont need a 1000 Euro monitor-

What is your resolution at?

Also, is there any modules in the control bar you do not need? You can remove them.

That being said, I agree that they should make it so that it can be smaller modules/fit more at every resolution-

Lance

I agree with FBB here on this. The more that people put in FR's the more likely things will get done. 

As to monitors I will use my laptop here and have found that rigging it up with a larger monitor at a better resolution has helped improve the control bar a tad...still though, definitely file a Feature Request.

Seriously, I saw someone flipping out like this about the plugin lists - just because something has changed doesn't mean its broken. Please try learning how to use it. I have a 23" screen I got for $150 and I can see everything I need to.
Its customizable - just select what mods you need and you'll be all set. FACT - no one needs all of them. Here's a list I used when customizing my stuff, which I believe originated here in the forums. My apologies to whom ever posted it as I don't have their name or link to credit them:

TOOLS: Not really necessary to show as a floating version can be accessed instantly wherever your mouse cursor is by pressing "T" or by using your middle mouse button. Also the Tools can be accessed using from the Function keys starting at F5 respectively. They follow the exact order of the Tools themselves so remembering the shortcut is easy. So ask yourself, do I really need to display this module at all?

SNAP: Probably important to keep. F12 turns Snap on and off but if you regularly change snap settings you'll probably want to keep this module visible.

TRANSPORT: Also probably important for many cases, but remember you can still see a time display over the Track Control Area and Space Bar starts and stops and metronome can be controlled completely with the "F3" Key Cluster.

LOOP: The "L" Key Cluster controls loop so you may not need the module at all. Select an area and hit "Shift+L" and the loop area will be applied to that area. Simply hit "L" to turn loop on and off. Unless you need a text readout of the loop start and end times you probably don't need to see this module at all.

MIX: I think this one is useful to see and personally I would keep it visible.

ACT: If you don't use MIDI controllers then you can definitley hide this module. If you do use MIDI controllers it might be helpful to have it visible, but if all your controllers are dialed in and working properly (and you don't see yourself needing to make frequent changes) then you could probably hide this module if you find yourself space constrained.

SCREENSETS: Screensets can be accessed by the qwerty keys 1-0, so the module is probably not necessary once you get your Screensets dialed in the way you like. It's also possible to copy Screensets using CTRL+1-0

PERFOMANCE: This one is totally subjective. It's nice to have and you probably have room for it, but if your system is running smoothly and you're not hitting a wall or troubleshooting or benchmarking, it's arguably not necessary to have visible at all time.

PUNCH: Arguably not necessary as you can select any area in the timeline and right-click to set punch points. The punch markers can be adjusted by dragging them and record options (including punch options) can be accessed now by right-clicking on the record button in the transport. If you have room for it, great, but if not you can easily get along without it.

SELECT: Personally I don't use it, but for those of you that like to punch in your selections numerically it can be helpful/necessary.

MARKERS: Markers can now be dropped/added with the logical key command "M". They of course also show up visually in the timeline so they can be manipulated that way. If you are short of room, ask yourself if you really need the Markers Module.

EVENT: Depending on the type of work you do and/or how your work, this one can be handy for some people and completely unnecessary for others. Also, the new Inspector might give you enough information. YMMV on this one.

SYNC: If you aren't syncing external video or audio gear this module isn't necessary.

Radu if you go to ableton because of this , you should make a request to you brain , going back at least to sonar 8.5 would have make more sens ...

I really feel your frustration but this , for a professional use , should be a detail while motor engine , summing quality , features and bundle....is the real concern ....i too love the flexibilty of laying out thing left right where i want , i too find the size of the channel in consol view too big compared to s8 ....but i can still make hits, and sometime quiker than ever !


PS : don't get mad about my french humor about request to your brain ;)

ok thks ))) but the console is to big . Everything is to big in X1 . And the rest of VST plugins that i use, are to small compared to Sonar resolution .So to see the rest of the plugins i must decrease LCD resolution . If i do that,by decreasing the resolution , X1 becomes simply enormous. If i decrease the resolution for the other VSTs visibility , Sonar becomes atrocious .Every track is huge. In Sonar 8 the size proportions are ok !! but X1 ... Cakewalk or Cockwalk ?

radu789:

If you're trying to get banned, you're certainly on the right track. I don't think Cake is going to take too much more of this name calling.

As trimph1 suggests, post a screenshot of what you mean by the ControlBar being big? Maybe you're doing something out of the ordinary and someone may be able to help.

What do you do professionally, Radu?

Well, because you've kind of invited the question. You say the design is unprofessional. I wonder on what basis you say that. What professional difficulties is it causing you?

i'm sorry !! Photobucket ?? I can't find any Photobucket. This site is very unprofessional made .Exactly like Sonar... I can't even upload a simple photo ??. Do i need to kiss someone's ass to have this photo "privilege" ?? Lool .Now i act like a little funny bastard . I'm a rocknrolla

this is a perfect example of why parents need to use "parental controls" on their computers...

I like the fact that you can only collapse the whole bar or have the whole bar present. The control bar doesn't collapse when you you shut down the various modules... so you get a beautiful patch of blank black space... it may be dark grey... I don't really know, but the blank space really makes everything less confusing for me.

Oh, and I also really like how some of the control bar modules can hide off of the edge of the right side of the display screen and seem completely unavailable until you delete some other module. That's a very nice feature. Just not knowing they are there makes me more focused on figuring out what all the other stuff doesn't do.

There's probably more good stuff... there was something about the metronome that really caught my eye... but I forget what it was.

Anyways.

best regards,
mike








 

Hi Mike,

There were several very helpful responses to our fowl-mouthed friend's questions.  Your's did not seem helpful at all.  Am I missing something here? 

Rimshot

fffllllliiiffft...I'm outa here....

Not worth the effort for  MM