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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:20:29 (permalink)
Meds? One can haz meds for this?? 

Where? Where?

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:22:58 (permalink)
Meds? One can haz meds for this??

 
I have meds for my meds... did you hear that??? nevermind.
 
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:28:06 (permalink)

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:29:19 (permalink)
You gotta think, think about what you're tryin to do to me.
Yeah, think, let your mind go, let yourself be free
 
Oh freedom, freedom, freedom, yeah freedom
Freedom, freedom, freedom, ooh freedom
 
Think about it.
 
 

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:42:30 (permalink)
The CH will be much different if we all think before we posted!

 
And occupy much less server space.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:48:38 (permalink)
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The CH will be much different if we all think before we posted!

 
And occupy much less server space.

+1's don't take near as much space, roight?


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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/22 20:49:46 (permalink)
MQThink before you post.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 01:27:02 (permalink)
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Bub: I kept it generic because I can feel where Mike is coming from and wanted to share my own experience without naming names. The reason for that...we really don't have to name names do we? We all pretty much know who causes trouble around here ALL the time. It's the same ones all the time.
Yeah, but on the other hand, I could be viewed in the same light from John, John T, FBB's point of view, and for all I know, you're including me in that from your point of view. That's the problem with making things too generic. I lock horns with people all the time but I can honestly say I've never attacked anyone that I can remember. Sometimes people will take a joke the wrong way and get mad at me, but I've never, that I can recall, arbitrarily attacked someone.

I do go out of my way to explain my point of view some times and I think that's taken as being argumentative. In my eyes it's not, but I can see how it comes off that way, especially when I quote facts and it proves someone wrong. Most people don't like being told they are wrong, ya know what I mean?
Also, though I respect where you were coming from, I don't think it was quite fair to do an analysis on my character for speaking my mind or mention what *I* may need to do. Yes I know my flaws and how serious I take things...but that would be like me telling you "well, you really need to alter the way you handle yourself on the forum". I'd be out of line in telling you that because you have your own beliefs as to how you feel you should act, know what I mean?
I was being sincere. I really do think you take it way too seriously and I was just trying to get you to maybe rethink things here a little. But then again, it's not my place to do that so I do apologize. Sometimes I say things to you because I know you are from NJ and I am too ... and in my mind there's a bond and I feel more comfortable saying things to you than I do other people and probably say things I shouldn't, because in reality we really don't know each other ...

Personally, I really need to stop spending so much time here. You can only make your point so much, and state your dissatisfaction with X1 for so long before you actually do become an **** about it. LOL! It's not my responsibility to be the 'truth' police here ...

I do like helping people and I feel like I've contributed more good than bad ... but if everyone else's perception is more bad than good ... then I've failed.

Well, anyway. I had a lot more typed but just deleted it. No need to say anymore.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 06:58:12 (permalink)
I for one am no different on here to how I am in real life. I try to help where I can but I'm not adverse to the odd wind up either. That's exactly how I am in 'real' life and I have never taken anything much seriously I'm afraid.

My avatar is me, although you can't see much of me admittedly, but there's a wacking great picture of my ugly mug in my profile, for those who must, along with my real name etc.

I also have a very keen sense of humour which if you haven't noticed includes being able to laugh at myself as well as others. If somebody posts what I consider to be a funny post I will sometimes reply with a smiley, in the same way I will use a +1 if I agree with something.

I for one don't judge a post by it's poster or past posts by that user, but by the contents of that particular post. I also don't have much trouble calling BS, er..... BS but I do try to do that in a reasonable manner although I probably don't always succeed in that. Misunderstandings are certainly easier to make in a text and smiley only environment, both ways that is, I misunderstand some and I know others do me. Body language and facial expression helps an awful lot in 'real' communication and you don't have that in a text only environment.

Some people just plain don't read posts either, nothing wrong with skimming posts but don't start arguing on the contents of a skimmed post is worth as much as "think before you post" - perhaps that should be "read, understand, and think before you post". All IMHO of course.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 12:51:55 (permalink)
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What drives me up the wall is the vomit-inducing sycophancy.
One would think  that if one is having such a reaction they would avoid the forum. 
And not just the cringeworthy and misplaced loyalty to a company that, and let's be brutally honest here, exist mainly to separate them and the rest of us from our money.
This sounds as if a forum member has to be antagonistic to the provider of the forum to be seen in your eyes as acceptable. My understanding for having the forum is to provide a way for users to compare notes on issues and using it to fix problems. To help one another use the product efficiently. I don't think CW had in mind that it would ever become a platform to constantly bash both the company and the product.   
It's exactly as Mike says, it exists just as much among the '+1' and the 'LMAO' mob that follow up their pathetic diatribes, and serve only to encourage them.
The only diatribes come from those that are either upset with how something is not working or against those that offer advice to help get a problem solved. 
To use a school analogy, you could imagine the fanbois are the teacher's pets to Cakewalk's staff (the teachers) and as such, are allowed much more leeway in their behaviour. Even if they do cross the line, the authoritative words may appear strong but the actions are weak.
 As in school from immature children name calling is used to minimize the humanity of another person. It is anti TOS and because no one seems to be able to say stop it I will. 
The toadies that follow the fanbois like sickly sheep are the unpopular kids who'll do and say anything to get in the gang - quite abhorrent really.
Same as above. Except that because name calling is used with such fervor the message is ignored. Only the name calling is noticed.  
And I'm with Bub - talking in generic terms may be politically correct, but let's call a spade a spade...
Isn't that the same as a + 1?
John is, without doubt, the biggest bootlicking backslapping fanboi on the planet. I once suggested to him that if Cakewalk sent him a turd in a box and called it X2 he'd be on the forum within seconds defending it to the hilt and lying that it smelt of French perfume. He called me 'negative' so I politely explained (as I believe both JB and Bub have done recently) that Cakewalk don't need people telling them that everything in the garden is rosy, an 'Emperor's new clothes' syndrome if you like, but honest feedback. I said I was wasn't being negative, I was being realistic - big difference I'm sure you'd agree.
This is to me a violation of the TOS.
And the other prefect - John T (who I postulate has recently usurped John as head boy), has got to be the most odious, execrable, hypocritical and sanctimonious creep I've ever had the mispleasure to encounter. How someone can, when they've lost an argument, stoop so low as to say they hope their adversary would "die in a fire" is quite beyond my understanding. And there have been many other examples - all conveniently ignored by the powers that be.
 
It's a disgrace.
What I see is some one that thinks its just fine on a forum to malign others and name call and to attack the other with apparent impunity. To me that is a disgrace. Why isn't Mike and those that support the idea behind the OP countering this post of Steve's with a simple disavowing.  Nothing will change here as long as a post like Steve's is greeted with no comment from those that don't want the forum inundated with this kind of behavior.

It doesn't matter what view one has about the product. It doesn't matter where one stands on CW.  What matters is how we as members treat each other.  As long as the post by Steve is acceptable to the forum and no one comments on it people like Steve will feel free to be as nasty to others as they wish.

If that is fine to you then what ever else you say here is absurd. Fix it here or be silent always.  

 
 




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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:02:28 (permalink)
Whatever side of this issue you're on, if it's disrupting your life, maybe it's time to put things in perspective. Spend less time online.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:07:16 (permalink)
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Whatever side of this issue you're on, if it's disrupting your life, maybe it's time to put things in perspective. Spend less time online.


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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:24:18 (permalink)
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What I see is some one that thinks its just fine on a forum to malign others and name call and to attack the other with apparent impunity. To me that is a disgrace. Why isn't Mike and those that support the idea behind the OP countering this post of Steve's with a simple disavowing.  Nothing will change here as long as a post like Steve's is greeted with no comment from those that don't want the forum inundated with this kind of behavior.

It doesn't matter what view one has about the product. It doesn't matter where one stands on CW.  What matters is how we as members treat each other.  As long as the post by Steve is acceptable to the forum and no one comments on it people like Steve will feel free to be as nasty to others as they wish.

If that is fine to you then what ever else you say here is absurd. Fix it here or be silent always.  


 

He who says this also says this?


Jonbouy


John


Jonbouy


John


grumbleweed4162


John


I don't know why don't you try and report back?

Though I don't know what good they would do if you don't have X1.

Of course you may want CW to give X1 away free thus you can have some use for those patches.

Oh BTW you would only need to DL the C patch because it has all the other patches in it as well.

It may be best not to humour him. This thread will only get longer and for what point?


You're right!


Correction, you merely agree with the TOS violation here.

There's no right about it.


I have no idea what you are going on about.

If you are so concerned about a TOS violation perhaps you would tell your friend to stop trolling against CW. Or don't you see the implied bashing in Mikes post?


I see his post as a response to your refusal to see anything but your view on how updates are funded.

Mike is saying he would actually pay (and does) directly for improvements to the issues he has with software to be implemented.  And yet you seem to be on a crusade to silence or derail any voice that doesn't ring in harmony with your views.

But you carry on mate you're going to do whatever you are going to do.

I've never seen the forum in the state it's currently in where pretty much every thread is reduced to rubble where at one time there used to be reasoned debate.  Sides used to be taken on point not personalities.

There were enough people around at that time though for you to be a just minor in the background annoyance now you've managed to overrun this place...well done mate.

I don't even care anymore.


If I annoy you I have done my duty then.

My refusal to agree with Mike? How ridiculous. Since when is it that anyone has to agree with Mike?

All I see with Mike is a troll that is trying to persuade people not to buy X1. I see you as providing backup for him.

I think that is an outrage and should be stopped. If you two were on an independent forum I would not have an issue with what you both are trying to do. Here I think CW should ban you both.

I have had a very high regard for Mike in the past. I now see him as having only one intent.



I spent an entire weekend battling personal attacks from you trying to ascertain the true contents of the Expanded package, before the weekend Ryan had already rapped you for directing personal insults specifically at me, after the weekend Brandon confirmed that I am indeed a very welcome contributor here and that he appreciated my commentary on X1 and all things Cakewalk.

Yet you can carry on a crusade of duty to annoy another member, you don't think perhaps that is an outrage?  You think I should be banned on what grounds, your fair and balanced individual outlook?

Find and show me where I was even in contravention of any spirit let alone rules of the forum that prompted this crusade of yours and I will apologize for upsetting you to the point where you felt a need to behave like that.

If you want any credibility in this matter John you would need to get honest with yourself, a quality that I have noticed over a number of years here is sadly lacking in your character.

Yes I lost it completely with you on Monday and was able to admit it but only after my reports of your constant, contentless personal attacks to the moderators went unheeded.

If you expect a certain level of behaviour from others here start behaving properly.

Your level of denial here may not be an outrage but at the very least it is completely breathtaking.

The credence I give to anything you say anymore I have to agree with Steve about, if you had been served up with a good pile of the brown stuff you'd still be campaigning the pro's about it you aren't helpful at the best of times, but that's OK by me, in fact in a funny way it's quite endearing, it's when you get personal for the sake of it at my expense I'm gonna call foul.  Everytime.

Now go away and think about it, seriously and honestly.  No that isn't an order but I don't think getting some good perspective on what you are actually doing will be a bad thing for you or the forum generally!

Mind you I'm not expecting anything more that your normal justification, wordplay and denial as a retort.  It just wouldn't be you if anything else happened.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:40:40 (permalink)
All I can say is thank goodness someone has come down from on high to put us all in our place.  Without other people to tell us that nothing we say matters, we might assume that we have some intrinsic value.  How wonderful it is that there are those perfect, blameless people in the X1 forum who always hold themselves to the highest standards of excellence and treat everyone with the utmost resect.  I don't know how the rest of us can live with ourselves after witnessing their complete and utter perfection.  I'm sure that the reason so many of us here avoid the X1 forum (otherwise known as "The Blessed Realm") is because we deserve to be treated as the scum we are.  Some of us forget our station in life and begin to think of ourselves as equals whose ideas and opinions carry equal weight. 

Obviously, when we are instructed to drop dead by one of the Exalted Ones, we should thank this magnificent being for deigning to offer such encouragement.  Unfortunately, as the ungrateful, unenlightened beings we are, we sometimes interpret such statements as insulting, abusive, and even hurtful.  As a result, we occasionally react in kind.  We know better, but sometimes, we just have to say how we feel.  We're flawed that way.

It's a good thing this forum software has the ability to enable the Important People upstairs to block posts from the lower life forms.  This way, their valuable time is not wasted reading posts that don't matter, like this one.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:47:40 (permalink)
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What drives me up the wall is the vomit-inducing sycophancy.
One would think  that if one is having such a reaction they would avoid the forum.
Why should I? I come here to help, get help and hang out down here. Doesn't mean I have to like every aspect of the place, or not be able to express an opinion about it. 
And not just the cringeworthy and misplaced loyalty to a company that, and let's be brutally honest here, exist mainly to separate them and the rest of us from our money.
This sounds as if a forum member has to be antagonistic to the provider of the forum to be seen in your eyes as acceptable. My understanding for having the forum is to provide a way for users to compare notes on issues and using it to fix problems. To help one another use the product efficiently. I don't think CW had in mind that it would ever become a platform to constantly bash both the company and the product.   
And blind sycophantic devotion is any better? I agree that maybe some of the bashers can get a little rude to our hosts, but the more intelligent and eloquent among them maintain a dignified and patient disposition. I'm sure they must get thoroughly fed up with the constant contempt spewed on them by those for whom the software is working, or who like the new design.
It's exactly as Mike says, it exists just as much among the '+1' and the 'LMAO' mob that follow up their pathetic diatribes, and serve only to encourage them.
The only diatribes come from those that are either upset with how something is not working or against those that offer advice to help get a problem solved.
John, I know your not a stupid man, so I can only assume you didn't see the list of John T's quotes that Jonbouy posted the other day. Or maybe you've conveniently forgotten your own public statement that you see it as your 'duty' to annoy Jon? And didn't you recently get a public rebuke by a moderator asking you to 'calm down'? Now I'm no scholar of the English language, but to me these few examples (of many) seem like perfect examples of diatribe.
To use a school analogy, you could imagine the fanbois are the teacher's pets to Cakewalk's staff (the teachers) and as such, are allowed much more leeway in their behaviour. Even if they do cross the line, the authoritative words may appear strong but the actions are weak.
 As in school from immature children name calling is used to minimize the humanity of another person. It is anti TOS and because no one seems to be able to say stop it I will.
See above. Pot calling the kettle black.
The toadies that follow the fanbois like sickly sheep are the unpopular kids who'll do and say anything to get in the gang - quite abhorrent really.
Same as above. Except that because name calling is used with such fervor the message is ignored. Only the name calling is noticed.
Ditto - see above.  
And I'm with Bub - talking in generic terms may be politically correct, but let's call a spade a spade...
Isn't that the same as a + 1?
No, it's called reading a thread properly and commenting on somebody else's contribution. 
John is, without doubt, the biggest bootlicking backslapping fanboi on the planet. I once suggested to him that if Cakewalk sent him a turd in a box and called it X2 he'd be on the forum within seconds defending it to the hilt and lying that it smelt of French perfume. He called me 'negative' so I politely explained (as I believe both JB and Bub have done recently) that Cakewalk don't need people telling them that everything in the garden is rosy, an 'Emperor's new clothes' syndrome if you like, but honest feedback. I said I was wasn't being negative, I was being realistic - big difference I'm sure you'd agree.
This is to me a violation of the TOS.
Why? It's all true. And it may come as a shock to you but I'd imagine the vast majority of regular SONAR forum users would agree with it.
And the other prefect - John T (who I postulate has recently usurped John as head boy), has got to be the most odious, execrable, hypocritical and sanctimonious creep I've ever had the mispleasure to encounter. How someone can, when they've lost an argument, stoop so low as to say they hope their adversary would "die in a fire" is quite beyond my understanding. And there have been many other examples - all conveniently ignored by the powers that be.

It's a disgrace.
What I see is some one that thinks its just fine on a forum to malign others and name call and to attack the other with apparent impunity. To me that is a disgrace. Why isn't Mike and those that support the idea behind the OP countering this post of Steve's with a simple disavowing.  Nothing will change here as long as a post like Steve's is greeted with no comment from those that don't want the forum inundated with this kind of behavior.
 
I notice you don't mention John T's comments in the same breath. So I can only assume that you condone his behaviour? If you're going play forum police, you have a duty to be impartial - no? Or would I be right in assuming  that because you seem to agree with everything he says you're not too worried about the manner in which he composes his posts?
It doesn't matter what view one has about the product. It doesn't matter where one stands on CW.  What matters is how we as members treat each other.  As long as the post by Steve is acceptable to the forum and no one comments on it people like Steve will feel free to be as nasty to others as they wish.
I couldn't agree more. But I also believe you reap what you sow. 
If that is fine to you then what ever else you say here is absurd. Fix it here or be silent always.
Fix what? And please don't tell me what to do - as much as you might think it is, it ain't your job to censor my posts.
 
 
 
 
Edit - spelling.
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 13:52:33 (permalink)
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All I can say is thank goodness someone has come down from on high to put us all in our place.  Without other people to tell us that nothing we say matters, we might assume that we have some intrinsic value.  How wonderful it is that there are those perfect, blameless people in the X1 forum who always hold themselves to the highest standards of excellence and treat everyone with the utmost resect.  I don't know how the rest of us can live with ourselves after witnessing their complete and utter perfection.  I'm sure that the reason so many of us here avoid the X1 forum (otherwise known as "The Blessed Realm") is because we deserve to be treated as the scum we are.  Some of us forget our station in life and begin to think of ourselves as equals whose ideas and opinions carry equal weight. 

Obviously, when we are instructed to drop dead by one of the Exalted Ones, we should thank this magnificent being for deigning to offer such encouragement.  Unfortunately, as the ungrateful, unenlightened beings we are, we sometimes interpret such statements as insulting, abusive, and even hurtful.  As a result, we occasionally react in kind.  We know better, but sometimes, we just have to say how we feel.  We're flawed that way.

It's a good thing this forum software has the ability to enable the Important People upstairs to block posts from the lower life forms.  This way, their valuable time is not wasted reading posts that don't matter, like this one.


Who is saying anyone is blameless? The OP is trying to make a point about bashing one another. In this I agree. We should stop doing that. I never said I was not also guilty of a bash here and there have I? One thing I try not to do is calling names. I don't always succeed there but I don't think you will find a lot of name calling in any of my posts.

So to you this thread is for bashing some without anyone commenting on that?
If you can't see that so be it. 
post edited by John - 2011/09/23 14:15:42

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 14:03:47 (permalink)
John, I know your not a stupid man, so I can only assume you didn't see the list of John T's quotes that Jonbouy posted the other day. Or maybe you've conveniently forgotten your own public statement that you see it as your 'duty' to annoy Jon? And didn't you recently get a public rebuke by a moderator asking you to 'calm down'? Now I'm no scholar of the English language, but to me these few examples (of many) seem like perfect examples of diatribe.
I had a talk with Seth about that I wont go into detail but its not what you may think. What is the cause of the post was my observation that Jonbouy may not have English as his first language. That is as benign as anything said to any. So lets not make more out of it then it is. Seth ask me to chill. Hardly a bashing of Jonbouy or a rebuke of me.

I notice you don't mention John T's comments in the same breath. So I can only assume that you condone his behaviour? If you're going play forum police, you have a duty to be impartial - no? Or would I be right in assuming  that because you seem to agree with everything he says you're not too worried about the manner in which he composes his posts?
I stand guilty on that. I will try to be more fair in the future. It has to stop no matter who is doing it.



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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 14:49:55 (permalink)
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What is the cause of the post was my observation that Jonbouy may not have English as his first language. That is as benign as anything said to any. So lets not make more out of it then it is. Seth ask me to chill. Hardly a bashing of Jonbouy or a rebuke of me.

What a complete crock of utter tripe - you are kidding right?
 
Jon is, without doubt, one of the most eloquent and intelligent contributors to these forums - he's a born writer, and a gifted and excellent communicator.
 
I honestly can't think of any reason why anyone might even imagine his first language is not English.
 
Why don't you just admit you were rude to him, apologise, and move on?
 
 

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 15:10:53 (permalink)
 
John, I see Jonbouy has been banned - are you happy now?
 
No doubt I'll be next. And all because you can't behave yourself.
 
It's a disgrace.
 
I implore you to retract your reports.
 
Or get busy and start reporting John T's remarks immediately - otherwise you are nothing but a coward and a hypocrite.
 
I may not always agree with everything you say, but I've always held some respect for you. If Jon has been banned as a result of your actions, then that evaporated completely today.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 15:24:25 (permalink)
SteveStrummerUK


 
John, I see Jonbouy has been banned - are you happy now?
 
No doubt I'll be next. And all because you can't behave yourself.
 
It's a disgrace.
 
I implore you to retract your reports.
 
Or get busy and start reporting John T's remarks immediately - otherwise you are nothing but a coward and a hypocrite.
 
I may not always agree with everything you say, but I've always held some respect for you. If Jon has been banned as a result of your actions, then that evaporated completely today.


I had nothing to do with him being banned. I didn't even know about until seeing this post. I had blocked him thats all.

Why would you blame me for his banning? Is it not his posts that caused it? I have not seen his posts so I don't know. If you look I have not responded to anything he posted. The reason is I didn't see it.

If you feel that you are next its because you must feel that you post ban-able stuff.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 15:28:50 (permalink)
John


SteveStrummerUK



John, I see Jonbouy has been banned - are you happy now?

No doubt I'll be next. And all because you can't behave yourself.

It's a disgrace.

I implore you to retract your reports.

Or get busy and start reporting John T's remarks immediately - otherwise you are nothing but a coward and a hypocrite.

I may not always agree with everything you say, but I've always held some respect for you. If Jon has been banned as a result of your actions, then that evaporated completely today.

I had nothing to do with him being banned. I didn't even know about until seeing this post. I had blocked him thats all.

Why would you blame me for his banning? Is it not his posts that caused it? I have not seen his posts so I don't know. If you look I have not responded to anything he posted. The reason is I didn't see it.
I believe you. You are a man of integrity. I retract any suggestion that you reported him and apologise.
If you feel that you are next its because you must feel that you post ban-able stuff.
We'll see if that's the case.
 
 

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 15:35:22 (permalink)
SteveStrummerUK


John


SteveStrummerUK



John, I see Jonbouy has been banned - are you happy now?

No doubt I'll be next. And all because you can't behave yourself.

It's a disgrace.

I implore you to retract your reports.

Or get busy and start reporting John T's remarks immediately - otherwise you are nothing but a coward and a hypocrite.

I may not always agree with everything you say, but I've always held some respect for you. If Jon has been banned as a result of your actions, then that evaporated completely today.

I had nothing to do with him being banned. I didn't even know about until seeing this post. I had blocked him thats all.

Why would you blame me for his banning? Is it not his posts that caused it? I have not seen his posts so I don't know. If you look I have not responded to anything he posted. The reason is I didn't see it.
I believe you. You are a man of integrity. I retract any suggestion that you reported him and apologise.
If you feel that you are next its because you must feel that you post ban-able stuff.
We'll see if that's the case.
 
 


Not a problem. I know you are a very passionate poster. 

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John
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 15:43:39 (permalink)

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 16:15:57 (permalink)
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 16:47:41 (permalink)
The old saw...sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me...has been disproven in so many ways. 

Sure, the internet is an anonymous field but that does not mean that what we say here is not going to hurt in some way. Working in the healthcare field the way I do I see what happens when things go awry and people react negatively to it. The idea that one can overlook the verbal slings and arrows can only work so long before everyone comes in here fixing for battle. Or feels hurt . Or some such.

Maybe if we actually treated each other the way we would want to be treated we would not be seeing the kinds of threads we see upstairs..or anywhere else for that matter.




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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 18:06:13 (permalink)
ok this is silly, what started off as a topic on being nice has decended into another slanging match.

What is it with some of you, learn, grow and move, ok I am not immune from critisim but i have learnt and am moving.

Whilst I agree stand up for yourself but come on lets get this straight this is a forum where we should be able to be ourselves and still get along.

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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 18:08:46 (permalink)
"trimph1"
Maybe if we actually treated each other the way we would want to be treated we would not be seeing the kinds of threads we see upstairs..or anywhere else for that matter.

One would think this to be true (mature and mutually respectful behavior), but has been disproved more often than I can count (specifically in these forums). But talking about it is cool. Why does it smell like pop-corn??!! 
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 20:00:51 (permalink)
trimph1


Maybe if we actually treated each other the way we would want to be treated we would not be seeing the kinds of threads we see upstairs..or anywhere else for that matter.
That's the crux of it right there, trimph. I sincerely doubt that some of the stuff we read on here would be the way it would be expressed in person or if two people met at a bar or somewhere and just started talking. This is where I take the forum too seriously. I treat it exactly like I do when I'm out in the real world. Let's face it...part of this is the real world. We're real people attempting to type what we'd speak minus the facial gestures, tones of voice. If you think about it...that's a pretty hard thing to do...and we're lucky we don't argue more often. LOL!! Yeah, we know we have some fearless tough guys on here that can probably eat nails and put their heads through walls while laughing about it. But would they really lash out at someone like we see on here in person for the sake of being sarcastic? It really makes me wonder. I don't think they would.
 
Alegria: totally agree there. I also think talking about it is a cool thing and I wish it would have went over better. The problem is, those that are a bit emotional already from it have eaten enough crow. Sometimes we vent when things bother us. I also think (and I know it's hard to watch a forum the size of this one and we don't want total censorship) certain things need to be taken care of on here as far as moderation. Do you know what really gets me man? Someone attacks another where the majority knows it was an attack...a mod misses it or lets it go, and the person attacked goes off in defense...and either that person that lost his cool gets banned, or someone comes in and says "now you both stop it".
 
I can't tell you how much that bothers me man. Seriously. Kinda like the Mayweather fight this past weekend. Dude intentionally head-butts Mayweather (who I'm not too fond of) Ortiz goes to hug him to say he's sorry, (remember, you're supposed to protect yourself at all times) so Mayweather touches his gloves and immediately knocks him out cold. And...Mayweather gets flack for it! The dude head-butted his mouth so hard he needed stitches all through his mouth. So....because he decides to say "I'm sorry" it just goes away? Yeah, Ortiz got a point taken away from him...but that doesn't stop the bleeding in Floyd's mouth....that doesn't change that if Floyd wasn't savvy enough to move in time that this head butt could have literally hit his head, eye or whatever else and really been a problem. I didn't hear one time from the announcers or anyone else "Victor, that was a dirty thing you did and we're astonished at your actions. You should be ashamed of yourself for head-butting a champion that gave you your biggest shot and your biggest pay day of your career. If he would have head-butted you back and knocked you out cold, so be it." Instead, Mayweather was treated like a criminal...pathetic.
 
My point in that...people that are offenders in any type of situation, rarely get told in public or in private "look, you're out of line...that's enough out of you or we'll do what we need to do". It's always the one that retaliates that gets the crappy end of the stick. Or it's always "all of you stop it" or the person being attacked is made out to be just as guilty as the one that started the confrontation. If you continuously tease a Golden Retriever...one of the most peaceful dogs of all time, and one day it goes off on you and rips your arm off...do we blame the dog or blame you? Yes, it's sad...no one wants to get mauled by a dog, but in a sense, don't you have it coming to you? Right away, they blame the dog and put it to sleep. That's not how it should work.
 
I mod 4 forums including my own. When we see someone starting a problem, we watch the situation and post our thoughts in our mod forum because we really don't want to censor anything. When it heats up too much, we go after the guy that started the confrontation. We can't hold the one defending himself responsible. It's OUR faults for letting things escalate. That's what we see here. You *may* get a warning to "chill"...or you could come on here and find out you're banned. What about the person that went out of their way to attack you and put you in this frame of defensive mind? That's just not fair.
 
Granted, it's near impossible for the Cake staff to worry about tech support issues and all that they do and mod this forum as well. I think there needs to be true moderators that know the people around here as well as how things work. They should be able to send a message to someone and talk to them or warn them if they are wrong, causing problems or are out of line. I got quite a bit of money in Cake software over the years. I'd be pretty livid if someone upset me that was a legit problem on here at least once per week with other members and the Cake staff banned me for defending myself. As a matter of fact, I'd ban their software and do everything I could to talk about that injustice on every forum I could get on.
 
No one on this forum should have to be scolded for defending themselves towards someone who fights with a different forum member on a weekly basis or with a person that has been a problem many times in the past. It should NEVER get to the point of a person retaliating! A mod should send a message to the offensive person and then contact the offended person and tell him "I've handled so and so...try to hang in there. If he acts up...we'll be watching him closely." That removes alot of stress right there....instantly! That's all that needs to be done. And it's only a few people on here that fit that bill. That's not too bad considering we have thousands of members here. You either remove the problems or remedy the problems....but the first step is for those with the power to accept and deal with the people that ARE the problem. 
 
-Danny 
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/23 21:57:44 (permalink)
Kudos to the both of you fellers. I was trying to quote the last post from John responding to Strammy. Damn iPad!
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Re:Think before you post. 2011/09/24 03:05:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/03/26 12:45:20
If I took the time to think before I post then my count would be around 3 or 4 (not that post count matters of course).

 
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